Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
2008/4/25 Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Lord Sporkton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My appologies, i am indeed using GENERIC, I did think that perhaps it did not support ntfs, but then i also thought it would be rather absent minded to have included mount_ntfs if support was not included, thus since i had mount_ntfs, i assumed i had support for it. Rather than calling people absent minded don't you think you should be thankful that they put mount_ntfs in its place so that you can straight away mount NTFS filesystems once you complie the kernel with the option enabled which is not very difficult if you have the sources. If they hadn't put it there, after you compiled the kernel you will have to go looking for it. Don't call other people absent minded because you assumed the wrong things. What happened here is that you failed to read the Documentation and just assumed things. This happens to many of us once in a while but going to the extreme of calling people absent minded and names like that when the mistake is actually on your part will be looked upon as a direct insult in this list. :-) --Siju Personally i feel it is wrong to include a controlling mechanism for a feature that is not included. I feel if i have to go so far as to rebuild my kernel, then i can certainly take a few more steps to add mount_ntfs. 2008/4/26 Ivo van der Sangen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 06:03:13PM -0400, jmc wrote: --- Lord Sporkton [Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:32:37PM -0700]: ---7 I have an NTFS drive attached via USB that was previously attached to an XP home system [ ... ] # mount -t ntfs -r /dev/sd0i /mnt/usb2 mount_ntfs: /dev/sd0i on /mnt/usb2: Operation not supported you don't say if7you're using a GENERIC kernel or not, but from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#foreignfs Once you have determined which partition it is you want to use, you can move to the final step: mounting the filesystem contained in it. Most filesystems are supported in the GENERIC kernel: just have a look at the kernel configuration file, located in the /usr/src/sys/arch/arch/conf directory. However, some are not, e.g. the NTFS support is experimental and therefore not included in GENERIC. If you want to use one of the filesystems not supported in GENERIC, you will need to build a custom kernel. Would it be a good idea to note the lack of support for NTFS filesystems in a GENERIC kerel in mount_ntfs(8)? If it is appreciated I will send a diff. Regards, Ivo van der Sangen I would most certainly appreciate that, because THAT was the documention i read when i was trying to make this happen. -- -Lawrence
Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
On 2008-04-27, Lord Sporkton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally i feel it is wrong to include a controlling mechanism for a feature that is not included. I feel if i have to go so far as to rebuild my kernel, then i can certainly take a few more steps to add mount_ntfs. Sounds like an easy way to end up with kernel and userland out-of-sync...
Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Ivo van der Sangen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be a good idea to note the lack of support for NTFS filesystems in a GENERIC kerel in mount_ntfs(8)? If it is appreciated I will send a diff. [...] But then it has to be removed *when* NTFS becomes a part of GENERIC. One place where this can be put up is the FAQ, but I'm still skeptical. IMHO, things as of now are fine. -Amarendra
Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 06:03:13PM -0400, jmc wrote: --- Lord Sporkton [Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:32:37PM -0700]: ---7 I have an NTFS drive attached via USB that was previously attached to an XP home system [ ... ] # mount -t ntfs -r /dev/sd0i /mnt/usb2 mount_ntfs: /dev/sd0i on /mnt/usb2: Operation not supported you don't say if7you're using a GENERIC kernel or not, but from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#foreignfs Once you have determined which partition it is you want to use, you can move to the final step: mounting the filesystem contained in it. Most filesystems are supported in the GENERIC kernel: just have a look at the kernel configuration file, located in the /usr/src/sys/arch/arch/conf directory. However, some are not, e.g. the NTFS support is experimental and therefore not included in GENERIC. If you want to use one of the filesystems not supported in GENERIC, you will need to build a custom kernel. Would it be a good idea to note the lack of support for NTFS filesystems in a GENERIC kerel in mount_ntfs(8)? If it is appreciated I will send a diff. Regards, Ivo van der Sangen
ntfs usb drive fail to mount
I have an NTFS drive attached via USB that was previously attached to an XP home system I am trying to now attach this drive to my OpenBSD server I get the following error however im unsure what im doing wrong also, why does it show as a scsi device, its a pata drive in a usb enclosure? I created a very small partition from some remaining space and made it ffs, that partition works and will mount no problem, it seems to be filesystem specific THank you Lawrence # mount -t ntfs -r /dev/sd0i /mnt/usb2 mount_ntfs: /dev/sd0i on /mnt/usb2: Operation not supported # disklabel sd0 disklabel: warning, DOS partition table with no valid OpenBSD partition # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: SCSI disk label: 2A flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 36481 total sectors: 586072368 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 5103586067265 4.2BSD 2048 163841 c:5860723680 unused 0 0 i:586067202 63 unknown # Apr 24 11:43:40 fire /bsd: umass0 detached Apr 24 11:43:43 fire /bsd: umass0 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 Apr 24 11:43:43 fire /bsd: Apr 24 11:43:43 fire /bsd: umass0: Cypress Semiconductor Cypress AT2LP, rev 2.00/2.40, addr 2 Apr 24 11:43:43 fire /bsd: umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only Apr 24 11:43:43 fire /bsd: scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets Apr 24 11:43:43 fire /bsd: sd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: ST330062, 2A, SCSI0 0/direct fixed Apr 24 11:43:43 fire /bsd: sd0: 286168MB, 36481 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 586072368 sec total -- -Lawrence
Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
--- Lord Sporkton [Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:32:37PM -0700]: ---7 I have an NTFS drive attached via USB that was previously attached to an XP home system [ ... ] # mount -t ntfs -r /dev/sd0i /mnt/usb2 mount_ntfs: /dev/sd0i on /mnt/usb2: Operation not supported you don't say if7you're using a GENERIC kernel or not, but from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#foreignfs Once you have determined which partition it is you want to use, you can move to the final step: mounting the filesystem contained in it. Most filesystems are supported in the GENERIC kernel: just have a look at the kernel configuration file, located in the /usr/src/sys/arch/arch/conf directory. However, some are not, e.g. the NTFS support is experimental and therefore not included in GENERIC. If you want to use one of the filesystems not supported in GENERIC, you will need to build a custom kernel.
Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
My appologies, i am indeed using GENERIC, I did think that perhaps it did not support ntfs, but then i also thought it would be rather absent minded to have included mount_ntfs if support was not included, thus since i had mount_ntfs, i assumed i had support for it. I will look into adding ntfs support to my kernel On 24/04/2008, jmc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Lord Sporkton [Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:32:37PM -0700]: ---7 I have an NTFS drive attached via USB that was previously attached to an XP home system [ ... ] # mount -t ntfs -r /dev/sd0i /mnt/usb2 mount_ntfs: /dev/sd0i on /mnt/usb2: Operation not supported you don't say if7you're using a GENERIC kernel or not, but from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#foreignfs Once you have determined which partition it is you want to use, you can move to the final step: mounting the filesystem contained in it. Most filesystems are supported in the GENERIC kernel: just have a look at the kernel configuration file, located in the /usr/src/sys/arch/arch/conf directory. However, some are not, e.g. the NTFS support is experimental and therefore not included in GENERIC. If you want to use one of the filesystems not supported in GENERIC, you will need to build a custom kernel. -- -Lawrence
Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
On 2008-04-24, Lord Sporkton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the following error however im unsure what im doing wrong also, why does it show as a scsi device, its a pata drive in a usb enclosure? USB mass storage devices use the SCSI protocol in a USB wrapper. The bridge chip in the enclosure converts this to the ATA protocol.
Re: ntfs usb drive fail to mount
--- Lord Sporkton [Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 03:17:16PM -0700]: --- My appologies, i am indeed using GENERIC, I did think that perhaps it did not support ntfs, but then i also thought it would be rather absent minded to have included mount_ntfs if support was not included, thus since i had mount_ntfs, i assumed i had support for it. I will look into adding ntfs support to my kernel should just be a matter of uncommenting: #option NTFS# Experimental NTFS support and rebuilding.
