Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
> > Anyway, how about underclocking your Duron some? Reset the BIOS timings > > and power levels to failsafe? The old K7+VIA Chipset boards were a rough > > crowd. > > This is a custom white box server, all put together. > It is not an HP. > I will try to reset the bios timings and power levels. I reset the bios timings. However, the only choices were optimal and high performance. Same error. I will look for a bios upgrade, if one exists... JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
Brian, > I've seen this before. On old HP gear. Is your HP? Only FreeBSD would > run on the system. NetBSD/OpenBSD dead in the water. Some obscure bug > when the I/O went up (Symbios SCSI). > > One of many reason why I want nothing to do with HP (H-PHUX) ever again. > > Anyway, how about underclocking your Duron some? Reset the BIOS timings > and power levels to failsafe? The old K7+VIA Chipset boards were a rough > crowd. This is a custom white box server, all put together. It is not an HP. I will try to reset the bios timings and power levels. JohnM > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, John Mendenhall wrote: > > >openbsd gurus, > > > >As my saga continues... > >I have a newly built server on which I am attempting to install > >openbsd 4.0. Problems occurred on install of sets, where comp > >set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably > >a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 > >available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: > > > > http://www.surfutopia.net/openbsd/ > > > >The logs are separated by the boot log, an install log not > >including the install of the sets, and two passes of the install > >of the sets, all dying in the comp set install. > > > >I have two drives in the server. I only installed on one (wd0). > >I have had the same types of errors when only installing on the > >second (wd1). So, it is most likely not a problem with the > >specific drive. However, the probability could exist. > > > >So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, > >my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. > >My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where > >the hardware problem could be? > > > >I have already ran the memory through the memtests. There is > >not a problem there. > > > >I am willing to try (almost) anything to play around with > >this. I would like to get the server up and running so I > >can move on to the next one. No time pressure, though. > > > >Thank you in advance for any pointers you can provide. > > > >Thanks! > > > >JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
Peter, > google turns up a few references on various BSD mailing list for the > search string "OpenBSD ffs_valloc: dup alloc". No clear cut > solutions, but the popular suspicion runs in the direction of buggy > (S)ATA controllers or, of course, possibly subtle, hard to trigger > bugs in the operating system's controller support code. Swapping out > motherboards could be unpleasant, but seeing that the error occurs at > pretty much exactly the same spot on the CDs, have you tried swapping > out the CD/DVD drive for a different unit? I tried loading the sets via ftp, same error, same location. JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
> Things to try (in any order you please): > 1. check IDE cables > 2. check whether Master/Slave/CS settings are correct > 3. In case Brian is right, you might want to put CD on the same cable > as hd0, to slow-down IDE. > 4. also check where you disks are connected - to IDE bus or to ATA-133 > controller on the board. Sometimes it does make a difference. > 5. my BIOS was updated to the latest one, as there was some bug about > large hard disks not working correctly (your ones seem to be 120G, so > it is unlikely BIOS is a problem here). > 6. the last step would be to try another harddisk. > > Or (just got this idea) you could simply try ftp install. If CD-rom > reader is bad, boot from CD but install from ftp - this would > definitely rule out the 'bad cd-rom drive' hypothesis :) I just tried the ftp install. Same problem, same location. I have tried another hard disk, same approximate size. Same problem, same location. I am going to look for any bios updates online, if I can find any. I will also be checking the cables, master/slave/cs settings, and cd + hd0 on same cable. As for IDE bus or ATA-133 controller on board, the cables are connected to the std ide0 and ide1 connectors on the motherboard. When you say IDE bus, are you referring to another connector? JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
John Mendenhall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, > my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. > My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where > the hardware problem could be? google turns up a few references on various BSD mailing list for the search string "OpenBSD ffs_valloc: dup alloc". No clear cut solutions, but the popular suspicion runs in the direction of buggy (S)ATA controllers or, of course, possibly subtle, hard to trigger bugs in the operating system's controller support code. Swapping out motherboards could be unpleasant, but seeing that the error occurs at pretty much exactly the same spot on the CDs, have you tried swapping out the CD/DVD drive for a different unit? -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
I've seen this before. On old HP gear. Is your HP? Only FreeBSD would run on the system. NetBSD/OpenBSD dead in the water. Some obscure bug when the I/O went up (Symbios SCSI). One of many reason why I want nothing to do with HP (H-PHUX) ever again. Anyway, how about underclocking your Duron some? Reset the BIOS timings and power levels to failsafe? The old K7+VIA Chipset boards were a rough crowd. ~BAS On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, John Mendenhall wrote: openbsd gurus, As my saga continues... I have a newly built server on which I am attempting to install openbsd 4.0. Problems occurred on install of sets, where comp set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: http://www.surfutopia.net/openbsd/ The logs are separated by the boot log, an install log not including the install of the sets, and two passes of the install of the sets, all dying in the comp set install. I have two drives in the server. I only installed on one (wd0). I have had the same types of errors when only installing on the second (wd1). So, it is most likely not a problem with the specific drive. However, the probability could exist. So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where the hardware problem could be? I have already ran the memory through the memtests. There is not a problem there. I am willing to try (almost) anything to play around with this. I would like to get the server up and running so I can move on to the next one. No time pressure, though. Thank you in advance for any pointers you can provide. Thanks! JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ "Guilty? Yeah. But he knows it. I mean, you're guilty. You just don't know it. So who's really in jail?" ~James Maynard Keenan
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
Maxim, > >set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably > >a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 > >available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: > > In my case when I had the same problem it was the CD-rom reader that > was bad. Replacing cdrom with DVD drive from my workstation helped. Could that explain the errors I am seeing? It appears the error is on the write, not the read, though I could be wrong. JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
openbsd gurus, As my saga continues... I have a newly built server on which I am attempting to install openbsd 4.0. Problems occurred on install of sets, where comp set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: http://www.surfutopia.net/openbsd/ The logs are separated by the boot log, an install log not including the install of the sets, and two passes of the install of the sets, all dying in the comp set install. I have two drives in the server. I only installed on one (wd0). I have had the same types of errors when only installing on the second (wd1). So, it is most likely not a problem with the specific drive. However, the probability could exist. So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where the hardware problem could be? I have already ran the memory through the memtests. There is not a problem there. I am willing to try (almost) anything to play around with this. I would like to get the server up and running so I can move on to the next one. No time pressure, though. Thank you in advance for any pointers you can provide. Thanks! JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
