Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

On Wed, 30.09.2009 at 09:12:16 -0600, Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca wrote:
 Again? sheesh, it wasn't supposed to, we had talked to them.

yes, again. I get a 404 all the time.


Kind regards,
--Toni++



Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:26:43 +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, 30.09.2009 at 09:12:16 -0600, Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca wrote:
 Again? sheesh, it wasn't supposed to, we had talked to them.

yes, again. I get a 404 all the time.


Kind regards,
--Toni++

Me too, but I learned my lesson first time around. Now I have a cronjob
that runs a script which attempts to get the file. If that fails the
existing local nixspam file is used.

crontab:
31  *   *   *   *   /root/bin/nixpix

nixpix:
#!/bin/sh
cd /root/data
rm -f nixspam
ftp http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz
if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
gunzip nixspam.gz
cut -d   -f 1 nixspam /var/db/nixspam
fi
exit

spamd.conf:
(relevant lines only)
# Nixspam recent sources list.
#   :method=http:\
#   :file=www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz
# Mirrored from http://www.heise.de/ix/nixspam
nixspam:\
 :black:\
:msg=Your address %A is in the nixspam list\n\
See http://www.heise.de/ix/nixspam/dnsbl_en/ for details:\
:method=file:\
:file=/var/db/nixspam

My guess is that it's better to have a stale nixspam file than none. If
you don't agree then don't do this.

FWIW,
Rod/
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Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Toni Mueller
On Thu, 01.10.2009 at 21:16:30 +1000, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote:
 Me too, but I learned my lesson first time around. Now I have a cronjob
 that runs a script which attempts to get the file. If that fails the
 existing local nixspam file is used.

I didn't check whether the stale file gets removed, but thought about
using a different source instead. If spamd(8) could use RBLs in
addition to static tables, that would ease the problem, too.

So far, I can only use nixspam in my SpamAssassin configuration, which
is a bit late.


Kind regards,
--Toni++



Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Kami Petersen

On 2009-10-01 14:39, Toni Mueller wrote:

I didn't check whether the stale file gets removed, but thought about
using a different source instead. If spamd(8) could use RBLs in
addition to static tables, that would ease the problem, too.


The concept of RBLs aren't in line with the idea that spamd should use 
little of your resources and many resources for the spammer. Add RBL 
functionality between spamd and your smtp server, if you need.




Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Frank Bax

Rod Whitworth wrote:

nixpix:
#!/bin/sh
cd /root/data
rm -f nixspam
ftp http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz
if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
gunzip nixspam.gz
cut -d   -f 1 nixspam /var/db/nixspam
fi



Any particular reason why you don't use:
zcat nixspam.gz | cut -d   -f 1  /var/db/nixspam

Obviously the above script must run before spamd-setup; how much sooner 
do you run it?




Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:36:24 -0400, Frank Bax wrote:

Rod Whitworth wrote:
 nixpix:
 #!/bin/sh
 cd /root/data
 rm -f nixspam
 ftp http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz
 if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
 gunzip nixspam.gz
 cut -d   -f 1 nixspam /var/db/nixspam
 fi


Any particular reason why you don't use:
   zcat nixspam.gz | cut -d   -f 1  /var/db/nixspam

I was gunzip-ing it for inspection so I was lazy and used the already
unzipped file.
Then I had to add the guzip line to this script anyway. But you know
how these things happen late at night...

Obviously the above script must run before spamd-setup; how much sooner 
do you run it?

6 minutes.


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Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Aaron Mason
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote:
 On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:36:24 -0400, Frank Bax wrote:

Rod Whitworth wrote:
 nixpix:
 #!/bin/sh
 cd /root/data
 rm -f nixspam
 ftp http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz
 if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
 gunzip nixspam.gz
 cut -d   -f 1 nixspam /var/db/nixspam
 fi


Any particular reason why you don't use:
   zcat nixspam.gz | cut -d   -f 1  /var/db/nixspam

 I was gunzip-ing it for inspection so I was lazy and used the already
 unzipped file.
 Then I had to add the guzip line to this script anyway. But you know
 how these things happen late at night...

Obviously the above script must run before spamd-setup; how much sooner
do you run it?

 6 minutes.


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That would probably cause issues if the gunzip operation failed -
you'd end up with an empty nixspam file.  I'd do the same but check
the return value of the gunzip operation before overwriting the
nixspam file.  I'd also streamline the script a bit:

#!/bin/sh
cd /root/data
rm -f nixspam
if ftp http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz; then
if gunzip nixspam.gz; then
cut -d ' ' -f 1 nixspam  /var/db/nixspam
fi
fi

Diff:
--- nixpix.orig Fri Oct  2 14:27:14 2009
+++ nixpix  Fri Oct  2 14:27:10 2009
@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
 #!/bin/sh
 cd /root/data
 rm -f nixspam
-ftp http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz
-if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
-   gunzip nixspam.gz
-   cut -d   -f 1 nixspam /var/db/nixspam
+if ftp http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/nixspam.gz; then
+   if gunzip nixspam.gz; then
+  cut -d ' ' -f 1 nixspam  /var/db/nixspam
+   fi
 fi
 exit

I'd test this on something you don't care about first, just to be sure.

--
Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict
- Oh, why does everything I whip leave me?



spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-09-30 Thread K.R. (Randy) Lewis
Has anyone else noticed the nixspam list (via link) disappearing from
the http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/ page today?

Randy
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Re: spamd - nixspam list, September 30, 2009

2009-09-30 Thread Bob Beck
Again? sheesh, it wasn't supposed to, we had talked to them.


2009/9/30 K.R. (Randy) Lewis ra...@rtmx.net:
 Has anyone else noticed the nixspam list (via link) disappearing from
 the http://www.openbsd.org/spamd/ page today?

 Randy
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