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Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Cezary Morga]

Nick Guenther wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote:
  The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.
 
  -Bryan

 Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF? Because it's
 a free webmail provider and so a source of spam?

Because gmail doesn't resend e-mails from the same host the first delivery 
attempt was made from. It fucks up spamd and every other greylisting app out 
there. Of course it can be worked around, but it seems not everyone is willing 
to do so.
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Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Bob Beck]

* Cezary Morga c...@therek.net [2009-04-09 15:14]:
 Nick Guenther wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote:
   The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.
  
   -Bryan
 
  Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF? Because it's
  a free webmail provider and so a source of spam?

Don't think I've actually ever seen an honest to goodness *spam* sourced
from gmail.. Seen lots of stupid people...

 
 Because gmail doesn't resend e-mails from the same host the first delivery 
 attempt was made from. It fucks up spamd and every other greylisting app out 
 there. Of course it can be worked around, but it seems not everyone is 
 willing 
 to do so.


It's easy to work around if you put google's outbound mx blocks in 
nospamd table - 
which is what I do here. 

Not everyone is willing to try to find what those are of course.. 
google doesn't
make is easy.

-Bob

Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Matthew Dempsky]

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Bob Beck b...@obtuse.com wrote:
It's easy to work around if you put google's outbound mx blocks in
nospamd table -
 which is what I do here.

Not everyone is willing to try to find what those are of course..
google doesn't
 make is easy.

Is this not a complete list?

$ host -t txt _spf.google.com | tr ' ' '\012' | sed -n 's/^ip4://p'
216.239.32.0/19
64.233.160.0/19
66.249.80.0/20
72.14.192.0/18
209.85.128.0/17
66.102.0.0/20
74.125.0.0/16
64.18.0.0/20
207.126.144.0/20

Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Alexander Hall]

Bob Beck wrote:
 Because gmail doesn't resend e-mails from the same host the first delivery 
 attempt was made from. It fucks up spamd and every other greylisting app out 
 there. Of course it can be worked around, but it seems not everyone is 
 willing 
 to do so.
 
 
   It's easy to work around if you put google's outbound mx blocks in 
 nospamd table - 
 which is what I do here. 
 
   Not everyone is willing to try to find what those are of course.. 
 google doesn't
 make is easy.

Well they do have spf dns records that I use to whitelist them...
Updated daily in case things change.

Currently:

$ spf_white google.com
### google.com ###
216.239.32.0/19
64.233.160.0/19
66.249.80.0/20
72.14.192.0/18
209.85.128.0/17
66.102.0.0/20
74.125.0.0/16
64.18.0.0/20
207.126.144.0/20

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Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[jmc]

--- Bob Beck [Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 03:35:36PM -0600]: --- 
 * Cezary Morga c...@therek.net [2009-04-09 15:14]:
  Nick Guenther wrote:
   On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.
   
-Bryan
  
   Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF? Because it's
   a free webmail provider and so a source of spam?
 
   Don't think I've actually ever seen an honest to goodness *spam* sourced
 from gmail.. Seen lots of stupid people...
 
  
  Because gmail doesn't resend e-mails from the same host the first delivery 
  attempt was made from. It fucks up spamd and every other greylisting app 
  out 
  there. Of course it can be worked around, but it seems not everyone is 
  willing 
  to do so.
 
 
   It's easy to work around if you put google's outbound mx blocks in 
 nospamd table - 
 which is what I do here. 

this is exactly what i have done as well. it's been talked about before,
there's some good scripts to crib from in the archives to assist you.

one could also use the info at http://www.dnswl.org/ (someone here
pointed me to that recently). i think it's rather a shotgun approach to
apply it blindly, but there are good data there to start from.

one could also use the info at http://www.dnswl.org/ (someone here
pointed me to that recently). i think it's rather a shotgun approach to
apply it blindly, but there are good data there to start from.

Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Daniel Ouellet]

jmc wrote:
--- Bob Beck [Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 03:35:36PM -0600]: --- 

* Cezary Morga c...@therek.net [2009-04-09 15:14]:

Nick Guenther wrote:

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote:

The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.

-Bryan

Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF? Because it's
a free webmail provider and so a source of spam?

Don't think I've actually ever seen an honest to goodness *spam* sourced
from gmail.. Seen lots of stupid people...

Because gmail doesn't resend e-mails from the same host the first delivery 
attempt was made from. It fucks up spamd and every other greylisting app out 
there. Of course it can be worked around, but it seems not everyone is willing 
to do so.


	It's easy to work around if you put google's outbound mx blocks in nospamd table - 
which is what I do here. 


this is exactly what i have done as well. it's been talked about before,
there's some good scripts to crib from in the archives to assist you.

one could also use the info at http://www.dnswl.org/ (someone here
pointed me to that recently). i think it's rather a shotgun approach to
apply it blindly, but there are good data there to start from.

one could also use the info at http://www.dnswl.org/ (someone here
pointed me to that recently). i think it's rather a shotgun approach to
apply it blindly, but there are good data there to start from.



Here is something that might help you.

I use it in a cronjob and update PF with it.

Not perfect and it could be improve, but it work as long as spf records 
are provided obviously.


It's really easy to use, just add the spf records in the list and run 
it. That's all there is to it and obviously, load it into your pf table 
as well when it's done.


You can change the $FILE path for what you setup, I use to keep it into 
/var/db, but then with a few changes that the project is doing, I may 
move the file to /etc/mail, witch most likely might be more logical ther 
in the first place.


After you ran it, you will get a nice looking file with what you need to 
just plug it into pf.


Hope it help you some anyway.

Best.

Daniel

===
#!/bin/sh
FILE=spamd-spf.txt

rm -f $FILE
touch $FILE

for domain in \
 aol.com \
 apple.com \
 amazon.com \
 gmx.net \
 _spf.google.com \
 spf-a.hotmail.com \
 spf-b.hotmail.com \
 spf-c.hotmail.com \
 spf-d.hotmail.com \
 _spf-a.microsoft.com \
 _spf-b.microsoft.com \
 _spf-c.microsoft.com \
 mynethost.com \
spf.postini.com

do
echo \#$domain  $FILE;
dig $domain TXT +short | tr \  \n | grep ^ip4: | cut -d: -f2  $FILE;
done

Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Ted Unangst]

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Cezary Morga c...@therek.net wrote:
 Nick Guenther wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote:
  The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.
 
  -Bryan

 Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF? Because it's
 a free webmail provider and so a source of spam?

 Because gmail doesn't resend e-mails from the same host the first delivery
 attempt was made from. It fucks up spamd and every other greylisting app out
 there. Of course it can be worked around, but it seems not everyone is willing
 to do so.

That's not the problem here.

Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Jose R.T]

Sorry if this is not what you expected in this list but i can't subscribe to
the PF mailing list, i send an email to pf-requ...@benzedrine.cx with body
subscribe and gmail send me this:

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient
domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further
information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server
returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 gmail (state 18).

I know that this mailing list is not for this, thank you.

Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Bryan Irvine]

The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.

-Bryan

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Jose R.T josert1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry if this is not what you expected in this list but i can't subscribe to
 the PF mailing list, i send an email to pf-requ...@benzedrine.cx with body
 subscribe and gmail send me this:

 Technical details of permanent failure:
 Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient
 domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further
 information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server
 returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 gmail (state 18).

 I know that this mailing list is not for this, thank you.

Re: Can you subscribe to the PF mailing list? I can't

[Nick Guenther]

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem is that you can't use the pf mailing list from gmail.

 -Bryan


Because people who use gmail aren't smart enough for PF? Because it's
a free webmail provider and so a source of spam?

-Nick