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I would actually argue that if Romney had won the Presidency he wouldn't have held off the ruin that is upon us and then the Republicans would have been blamed for that ruin. This could have caused a harder statist turn (some consider this to the left) where people have to give the Government even more control: * To prevent complete economic meltdown * To protect urban people from Militias * To quell uprisings * To prevent terrorism * To even the economic playing field * To secure America's Interests (aka Oil that doesn't belong to us) * etc * etc In that scenario, we would have been far worse than if the ruin is realized in Obama's second term. Hear me clearly: I do not wish ruin upon this country. However, consider the lessons of the Great Depression: * Government Intervention enriches the favored few * Government Intervention consolidates power and control * Government Intervention deepens the recession * Freedom, budget cuts, and tax cuts cause Americans to thrive (after WWII) We're in a major Dollar Depression. We don't know how long it will last, but we know there is pain still yet to come. No one can prevent that pain. If the Dollar Depression gets driven deeper, we risk becoming the Weimar Republic, or Zimbabwe. All it will take is a panic of sufficient size to drive a large enough chunk of Dollar holders to bail out and say enough is enough. Once that point comes, there will be no pulling it back. China will be forced to call its debt, the Federal Reserve will pay it off with inflationary new Dollars, and will probably be unable to sell Treasury bonds at any rate of interest. Everyone with Dollar denominated savings will have their wealth evaporate practically overnight. A new currency will be hailed as our savior. Whether it is the Amero, or maybe some new world currency that will take over for both the Dollar and the Euro, we will have lost our sovereignty. There is yet hope. The Free Competition in Currency Act (https://secure.downsizedc.org/etp/honest-money/) would allow ordinary citizens to conduct business in whatever Currency they saw fit. Purchasing and holding gold would no longer be considered a taxable investment. You could hold Euros, Yuan, Yen, or anything else you wanted to try to protect yourself against the collapse of the dollar. This is not the only factor in the whole equation, but it's very significant. Tell your representative and senators to legalize Honest Money, and allow people to trade directly in Gold and Silver. The way out of the pit we're already in is to admit that we have a deep hole to dig out of instead of pretending that we're not in that pit. We have to force the Federal Government to Balance the Budget, and end currency manipulation by the Federal Reserve. Eliminate the Dual Mandate, and make the Federal Reserve only responsible for controlling inflation. Make the Currency as strong as it can be. There will be Bankruptcy, more Foreclosures, calling of debts, and many people will realize that we're far less rich than we imagined, but getting rid of the lies in the form of bad debts, bad investments, and letting everyone get back to rebuilding will get us on the road to recovery faster than pretending we're already on the road. Consider that whatever partisan allegiance you've held is possibly completely built on an illusion. Oh, and this isn't the Muslims fault. Though some extremists would like to see us fall, you can't claim they're the masterminds of this disaster. It's been a bad 100 years, and for most of that time, it wasn't the Middle East attacking the West. We started our own demise in 1913. (Federal Reserve Act, 16th Amendment, 17th Amendment, and more) Jeremy D. Young On 11/27/2012 12:59 PM, Tom Martz wrote: I have to agree with Jerry there isn't a clear choice to which political party and their representation is going to take which liberty away next. Romney had business experience but he also used government to fund some of his successful business ventures. Obama had community building experience to which government funds that as well. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jerry Blevins jb...@mchsi.com mailto:jb...@mchsi.com wrote: Very Sad times, but I really do not think people have understood the real problem, part of it is the very first paragraph, “I thought for sure that given such a clear choice”, we were not given a clear choice. When you have two parties that have become the same, there is not a choice. __ __ Jerry __ __ Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience...without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure...If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under. ---Ronald Reagan __ __ *From:*missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com
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Very Sad times, but I really do not think people have understood the real problem, part of it is the very first paragraph, I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, we were not given a clear choice. When you have two parties that have become the same, there is not a choice. Jerry Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience...without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure...If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under. ---Ronald Reagan From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B. Ellison Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:03 AM To: MLC Google Group; Missouri C4L Cc: ACMN; Campaign for Liberty-SGF; Springfield-MO-912; Freedom Fighters Subject: [MoLiCo] Fwd: I don't know anything Well, it's official; I don't know anything. I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, Americans would vote for love of country over revenge. I was wrong. I thought, that just as every presidential election in my lifetime, the bad economy would be hung around the incumbent's neck, sinking him. I was wrong. I thought that even those few Americans who were fortunate enough to still be fully employed (not counting those leeching off the public system) would be cognizant of how much pain their neighbors were in and elect someone who would at least try to make improvements. I was wrong. I thought that now that FINALLY some of the disturbing truths about our first black president had come to light, with his connections to crooked Chicago politicians, with his secret sealed college records, voters would reject a man so dangerously at odds with the American experience. I was wrong. I thought the 2010 elections and the Tea Party meant something. I thought the enthusiasm on display at Romney/Ryan events, contrasted with the lack of same at Obama/Biden events, meant something. I thought Americans would never sell their liberty for the sake of trinkets like cell phones or even big shiny lies like 'free health care'. I was wrong. Never in a million years would I have supposed that America would support a president who left his (our) people in Bengazi, Libya to die at the hands of our enemies overseas without lifting a hand to help, then lie about what he watched in real time for over two weeks, then lie about the lie for another month. I was wrong. I thought Americans could tell a hawk from a handsaw. I was wrong. We were offered the clearest choice we've has since 1980, where we had malaise and a misery index on one hand and a shining city on a hill on the other. Back then, we chose the city on the hill. This time the choice was between a (loser) man who says 7.9% unemployment and $4.00 gas is the new normal and a guy (a successful man) whose entire career has been about fixing broken entities. We chose to stay broken. And Broke. Maybe I'm wrong about the ramifications of this choice. Maybe windmills will actually turn out to be a viable energy source. Maybe America diminished will be loved overseas. Maybe a nuclear Iran won't be a threat. Maybe Israel is over reacting. Maybe western civilization was always over rated. Maybe life under sharia is not bad at all. Maybe when the rest of the world realizes that we have no intention of ever paying back that $16,000,000,000,000.00 (and counting) that we've borrowed from them, they won't devalue the dollar, causing hyper inflation here at home. Maybe China will just keep on giving us money and not demand our hearts, souls, national monuments and marriageable daughters as payment. I've watched my candidate lose elections before but I've never felt the way I did when this one was called for Obama. It wasn't bitterness or sadness or even disappointment. It took me a while to figure out what it was. Then it hit me; it was horror. Pure, unadulterated horror. Not because of Obama, but because of what it says about us, the American people, that we chose this. It shouldn't have even been close. Faced with the choice between taking charge of our destiny and tackling our financial problems, we opted to get high and have sex. We re-elected a guy who doesn't understand that a growing economy that creates more tax payers will bring in more revenue than higher taxes. A Commander in Chief who doesn't know our military still uses bayonets. A man who wants to control the economy without even knowing the difference between bankruptcy and liquidation. It was one thing to elect an unknown quantity, buying his line of 'Hope and Change'. It's something else to deliberately choose his failed policies over someone who has actually achieved success in life. I never dreamed America would do that. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, Hello Idiocracy! Goodbye, recovery. Goodbye, energy independence. Goodbye, religious liberty. Goodbye, liberty and justice for
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I have to agree with Jerry there isn't a clear choice to which political party and their representation is going to take which liberty away next. Romney had business experience but he also used government to fund some of his successful business ventures. Obama had community building experience to which government funds that as well. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jerry Blevins jb...@mchsi.com wrote: Very Sad times, but I really do not think people have understood the real problem, part of it is the very first paragraph, “I thought for sure that given such a clear choice”, we were not given a clear choice. When you have two parties that have become the same, there is not a choice. ** ** Jerry ** ** Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience...without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure...If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under. ---Ronald Reagan ** ** *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fred B. Ellison *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:03 AM *To:* MLC Google Group; Missouri C4L *Cc:* ACMN; Campaign for Liberty-SGF; Springfield-MO-912; Freedom Fighters *Subject:* [MoLiCo] Fwd: I don't know anything ** ** Well, it's official; I don't know anything. I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, Americans would vote for love of country over revenge. I was wrong. I thought, that just as every presidential election in my lifetime, the bad economy would be hung around the incumbent's neck, sinking him. I was wrong. I thought that even those few Americans who were fortunate enough to still be fully employed (not counting those leeching off the public system) would be cognizant of how much pain their neighbors were in and elect someone who would at least try to make improvements. I was wrong. I thought that now that FINALLY some of the disturbing truths about our first black president had come to light, with his connections to crooked** ** Chicago politicians, with his secret sealed college records, voters would reject a man so dangerously at odds with the American experience. I was wrong. I thought the 2010 elections and the Tea Party meant something. I thought the enthusiasm on display at Romney/Ryan events, contrasted with the lack of same at Obama/Biden events, meant something. I thought Americans would never sell their liberty for the sake of trinkets like cell phones or even big shiny lies like 'free health care'. I was wrong. Never in a million years would I have supposed that America would support a president who left his (our) people in Bengazi, Libya to die at the hands of our enemies overseas without lifting a hand to help, then lie about what he watched in real time for over two weeks, then lie about the lie for another month. I was wrong. I thought Americans could tell a hawk from a handsaw. I was wrong. We were offered the clearest choice we've has since 1980, where we had malaise and a misery index on one hand and a shining city on a hill on the other. Back then, we chose the city on the hill. This time the choice was between a (loser) man who says 7.9% unemployment and $4.00 gas is the new normal and a guy (a successful man) whose entire career has been about fixing broken entities. We chose to stay broken. And Broke. Maybe I'm wrong about the ramifications of this choice. Maybe windmills will actually turn out to be a viable energy source. Maybe America diminished will be loved overseas. Maybe a nuclear Iran won't be a threat. Maybe Israel is over reacting. Maybe western civilization was always over rated. Maybe life under sharia is not bad at all. Maybe when the rest of the world realizes that we have no intention of ever paying back that $16,000,000,000,000.00 (and counting) that we've borrowed from them, they won't devalue the dollar, causing hyper inflation here at home. Maybe China will just keep on giving us money and not demand our hearts, souls, national monuments and marriageable daughters as payment. I've watched my candidate lose elections before but I've never felt the way I did when this one was called for Obama. It wasn't bitterness or sadness or even disappointment. It took me a while to figure out what it was. Then it hit me; it was horror. Pure, unadulterated horror. Not because of Obama, but because of what it says about us, the American people, that we chose this. It shouldn't have even been close. Faced with the choice between taking charge of our destiny and tackling our financial problems, we opted to get high and have sex. We re-elected a guy who doesn't understand that a growing economy that creates more tax payers will bring in more revenue than higher taxes. A Commander in Chief who doesn't know our
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Subject: FW: Inner Peace after this election.. I'm passing this on because it worked for me today. A doctor on TV said that in order to have inner peace in our lives after this election, we should always finish things that we start. Since we all could use more calm in our lives, I looked around my house to find things I'd started hadn't finished. I finished a bottle of Merlot, a bottle of Chardonnay, a bodle of Baileys, a butle of wum, tha mainder of Valiuminun scriptins, an a box a choclutz. Yu has no idr how fablus I feel rite now. Sned this to all ur frenz who need inner piss. ...An telum u luvum. Jerry Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience...without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure...If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under. ---Ronald Reagan From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:59 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Fwd: I don't know anything I have to agree with Jerry there isn't a clear choice to which political party and their representation is going to take which liberty away next. Romney had business experience but he also used government to fund some of his successful business ventures. Obama had community building experience to which government funds that as well. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jerry Blevins jb...@mchsi.com wrote: Very Sad times, but I really do not think people have understood the real problem, part of it is the very first paragraph, I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, we were not given a clear choice. When you have two parties that have become the same, there is not a choice. Jerry Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience...without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure...If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under. ---Ronald Reagan From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B. Ellison Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:03 AM To: MLC Google Group; Missouri C4L Cc: ACMN; Campaign for Liberty-SGF; Springfield-MO-912; Freedom Fighters Subject: [MoLiCo] Fwd: I don't know anything Well, it's official; I don't know anything. I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, Americans would vote for love of country over revenge. I was wrong. I thought, that just as every presidential election in my lifetime, the bad economy would be hung around the incumbent's neck, sinking him. I was wrong. I thought that even those few Americans who were fortunate enough to still be fully employed (not counting those leeching off the public system) would be cognizant of how much pain their neighbors were in and elect someone who would at least try to make improvements. I was wrong. I thought that now that FINALLY some of the disturbing truths about our first black president had come to light, with his connections to crooked Chicago politicians, with his secret sealed college records, voters would reject a man so dangerously at odds with the American experience. I was wrong. I thought the 2010 elections and the Tea Party meant something. I thought the enthusiasm on display at Romney/Ryan events, contrasted with the lack of same at Obama/Biden events, meant something. I thought Americans would never sell their liberty for the sake of trinkets like cell phones or even big shiny lies like 'free health care'. I was wrong. Never in a million years would I have supposed that America would support a president who left his (our) people in Bengazi, Libya to die at the hands of our enemies overseas without lifting a hand to help, then lie about what he watched in real time for over two weeks, then lie about the lie for another month. I was wrong. I thought Americans could tell a hawk from a handsaw. I was wrong. We were offered the clearest choice we've has since 1980, where we had malaise and a misery index on one hand and a shining city on a hill on the other. Back then, we chose the city on the hill. This time the choice was between a (loser) man who says 7.9% unemployment and $4.00 gas is the new normal and a guy (a successful man) whose entire career has been about fixing broken entities. We chose to stay broken. And Broke. Maybe I'm wrong about the ramifications of this choice. Maybe windmills will actually turn out to be a viable energy source. Maybe America diminished will be loved overseas. Maybe a nuclear Iran won't be a threat. Maybe Israel is over reacting. Maybe western civilization was always over rated. Maybe life under sharia is not bad at all. Maybe when the rest of the world realizes
