Tomorrow Townhall meeting
I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as she is taking time off work. Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up somewhere? I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have planned out. Could you fill us in? I can bring my laptop if needed. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 06:36:00
Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
Cathy, There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM wrote: > I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 > at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as > she is taking time off work. > Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up > somewhere? > I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have > planned out. Could you fill us in? > I can bring my laptop if needed. > > CathyM > Catren's Shar Pei > Catren's Leather Show Accessories > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 06:36:00 > > -- "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com The power to tax involves the power to destroy. ~Justice John Marshall~ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. ~Justice John Marshall~ http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. Fred --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz wrote: From: Tom Martz Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM Cathy, There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM wrote: I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as she is taking time off work. Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up somewhere? I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have planned out. Could you fill us in? I can bring my laptop if needed. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 06:36:00 -- "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com The power to tax involves the power to destroy. ~Justice John Marshall~ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. ~Justice John Marshall~ http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
Fred Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave them? What time will you be there? I don't care what time I am in Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com> www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B. Ellison Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. Fred --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz wrote: From: Tom Martz Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM Cathy, There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM http://us.mc635.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=catr...@juno.com> > wrote: I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as she is taking time off work. Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up somewhere? I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have planned out. Could you fill us in? I can bring my laptop if needed. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com/> No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 06:36:00 -- "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ www.moliberty.org <http://www.moliberty.org/> http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com <http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com/> The power to tax involves the power to destroy. ~Justice John Marshall~ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. ~Justice John Marshall~ http://www.radiofreeliberty.com <http://www.radiofreeliberty.com/> --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 06:36:00
Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
Cathy, The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an across the street from a parking garage On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: > Fred > > Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave > them? What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in > Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more > fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. > > > > *CathyM* > > *Catren's Shar Pei* > > *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* > > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > * * > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fred B. Ellison > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > > > I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to > the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. > > > > Fred > > > > --- On *Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz * wrote: > > > From: Tom Martz > Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM > > Cathy, > > There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of > these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they > believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they > want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and > have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time > to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM > http://us.mc635.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=catr...@juno.com>> > wrote: > > I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 > at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as > she is taking time off work. > Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up > somewhere? > I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have > planned out. Could you fill us in? > I can bring my laptop if needed. > > CathyM > Catren's Shar Pei > Catren's Leather Show Accessories > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 06:36:00 > > > > > -- > "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" > ~Will Turner~ > ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ > > www.moliberty.org > > http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com > > The power to tax involves the power to destroy. > ~Justice John Marshall~ > > Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics > won't take an interest in you! > -Pericles (430 B.C.) > > A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. > ~Justice John Marshall~ > > http://www.radiofreeliberty.com > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 06:36:00 > > -- "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com The power to tax involves the power to destroy. ~Justice John Marshall~ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. ~Justice John Marshall~ http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
On Aug 30, 2009, at 1:11 PM, CathyM wrote: > I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by > 10:30 > at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in > line as > she is taking time off work. > Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up > somewhere? > I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have > planned out. Could you fill us in? > I can bring my laptop if needed. My wife and I are planning to be there and will show up around the same time or slightly earlier. Sincerely, Eric Vought "Faith does not absolve us from trying to understand our world and make moral distinctions with the eyes and brain given us. Religion is as much responsibility as direction: Duty not Distinction." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this Rendezvous Coffee before 9:00 am. Jim Hornaday From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:03:21 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting Cathy, The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an across the street from a parking garage On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: Fred >Where >is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave them? >What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in Springfield, all I >know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more fun waiting with >people you have something in common with then by yourself. > >CathyM >Catren's >Shar Pei >Catren's >Leather Show Accessories >Kill"The Killing >Fields" Bills of the HSUS >www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > >From:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B. >Ellison >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > >I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning > and walking to the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. > >Fred > > >> --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz wrote: > >>>> From: Tom Martz >>>> Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >>>> To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>>> Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM >>Cathy, >> >>>> There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one >>>> of >> these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they >> believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they >> want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line >> and have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in >> time to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. >>On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM wrote: >>I am planning on going to >> this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 >>>> at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line >> as >>>> she is taking time off work. >>>> Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up >>>> somewhere? >>>> I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have >>>> planned out. Could you fill us in? >>>> I can bring my laptop if needed. >> >>>> CathyM >>>> Catren's Shar Pei >>>> Catren's Leather Show Accessories >>>> Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >>www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 >> 06:36:00 >> >> >> >>>> -- >>>> "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" >>>> ~Will Turner~ >>>> ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ >> >>www.moliberty.org >> >>http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com/ >> >>>> The power to tax involves the power to destroy. >>>> ~Justice John Marshall~ >> >>>> Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics >> won't take an interest in you! >>>> -Pericles (430 B.C.) >> >>>> A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. >>>> ~Justice John Marshall~ >> >>http://www.radiofreeliberty.com/ >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 >>06:36:00 > > -- "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com The power to tax involves the power to destroy. ~Justice John Marshall~ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. ~Justice John Marshall~ http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into my head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café before 9am CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com> www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Hornaday Jr. Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this Rendezvous Coffee before 9:00 am. Jim Hornaday _ From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:03:21 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting Cathy, The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an across the street from a parking garage On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: Fred Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave them? What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B. Ellison Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. Fred --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz wrote: From: Tom Martz Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM Cathy, There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM http://us.mc635.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=catr...@juno.com> > wrote: I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as she is taking time off work. Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up somewhere? I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have planned out. Could you fill us in? I can bring my laptop if needed. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com/> No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 06:36:00 -- "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ www.moliberty.org <http://www.moliberty.org/> http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com/ The power to tax involves the power to destroy. ~Justice John Marshall~ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. ~Justice John Marshall~ http://www.radiofreeliberty.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 06:36:00 -- "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" ~Will Turner~ ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ www.moliberty.org http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com The power to tax involves the power to destroy. ~Justice John Marshall~ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -Pericles (430 B.C.) A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. ~Justice John Marshall~ http://www.radiofreeliberty.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the int
Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting
It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you know.LOL On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: > Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them > into my head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café > before 9am > > > > *CathyM* > > *Catren's Shar Pei* > > *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* > > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > * * > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Hornaday > Jr. > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > > > Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this > Rendezvous Coffee before 9:00 am. > > Jim Hornaday > > > -- > > *From:* Tom Martz > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:03:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > Cathy, > The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an across > the street from a parking garage > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: > > Fred > > Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave > them? What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in > Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more > fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. > > > > *CathyM* > > *Catren's Shar Pei* > > *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* > > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > * * > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fred B. Ellison > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > > > I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to > the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. > > > > Fred > > > > --- On *Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz * wrote: > > > From: Tom Martz > Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM > > Cathy, > > There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of > these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they > believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they > want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and > have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time > to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM > http://us.mc635.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=catr...@juno.com>> > wrote: > > I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 > at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as > she is taking time off work. > Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up > somewhere? > I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have > planned out. Could you fill us in? > I can bring my laptop if needed. > > CathyM > Catren's Shar Pei > Catren's Leather Show Accessories > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2335 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 06:36:00 > > > > > -- > "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it" > ~Will Turner~ > ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~ > > www.moliberty.org > > http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com/ > > The power to tax involves the power to destroy. > ~Justice John Marshall~ > > Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics > won't take an interest in you! > -Pericles (430 B.C.) > > A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. > ~Justice John Marshall~ > > http://www.radiofreeliberty.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > V
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When I give directions I usually only give N,E,S,W aspects of it, I'm quite surprised how many people do NOT now one direction from the other. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM, CathyM wrote: > But I am a visual learner and if I can go to google and get the map and > look at it, I know exactly where I am going. VBG I can get very confused > sometimes reading directions of left and right as I sometimes forget which > is which. And this is a terrible problem for a teacher of the blind in > trying to give them directions sometimes! LOL My students have learned to > make slight turns in hesitation in case I yell “Stop I meant the other way!” > or to be patient while I work it out in my head before saying it outloud. > The other day I was trying to tell my mom where to look for something and > kept telling her to look one direction when I really meant the other and it > was horrible. I have the same problem if I think too hard or long about > which way to screw something off or out. You can tell me all day long the > rhyme of righty/tighty lefty/loosey and it means nothing to me. > > But on the other hand, I can tell you East, West, North and South anytime > anywhere. Isn’t that weird? > > > > *CathyM* > > *Catren's Shar Pei* > > *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* > > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > * * > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Martz > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:19 PM > > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > > > It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you > know.LOL > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: > > Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into > my head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café > before 9am > > > > *CathyM* > > *Catren's Shar Pei* > > *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* > > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > * * > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Hornaday > Jr. > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > > > Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this > Rendezvous Coffee before 9:00 am. > > Jim Hornaday > > > -- > > *From:* Tom Martz > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:03:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > Cathy, > The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an across > the street from a parking garage > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: > > Fred > > Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave > them? What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in > Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more > fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. > > > > *CathyM* > > *Catren's Shar Pei* > > *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* > > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > * * > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fred B. Ellison > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > > > I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to > the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. > > > > Fred > > > > --- On *Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz * wrote: > > > From: Tom Martz > Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM > > Cathy, > > There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of > these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they > believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they > want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and > have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time > to at le
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But I am a visual learner and if I can go to google and get the map and look at it, I know exactly where I am going. VBG I can get very confused sometimes reading directions of left and right as I sometimes forget which is which. And this is a terrible problem for a teacher of the blind in trying to give them directions sometimes! LOL My students have learned to make slight turns in hesitation in case I yell “Stop I meant the other way!” or to be patient while I work it out in my head before saying it outloud. The other day I was trying to tell my mom where to look for something and kept telling her to look one direction when I really meant the other and it was horrible. I have the same problem if I think too hard or long about which way to screw something off or out. You can tell me all day long the rhyme of righty/tighty lefty/loosey and it means nothing to me. But on the other hand, I can tell you East, West, North and South anytime anywhere. Isn’t that weird? CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com> www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:19 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you know.LOL On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into my head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café before 9am CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Hornaday Jr. Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this Rendezvous Coffee before 9:00 am. Jim Hornaday _ From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:03:21 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting Cathy, The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an across the street from a parking garage On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: Fred Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave them? What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B. Ellison Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to the Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. Fred --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz wrote: From: Tom Martz Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM Cathy, There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of these groups has decided to align themselves with the political party they believe is going to oppose this instead of trying to stop it outright they want to garner compromise. I believe Fred and Janice will be in line and have registered, I'm leaving early in the morning so I can be back in time to at least stand out front with the rest of the Domestic Terrorist. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, CathyM http://us.mc635.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=catr...@juno.com> > wrote: I am planning on going to this. I am hoping to be in Springfield by 10:30 at the Gilloiz in line. I know that Jenny is going to meet me in line as she is taking time off work. Is anyone else going to be able to make it? Would you like to meet up somewhere? I did not make it to Fred's meeting so I don't know what you guys have planned out. Could you fill us in? I can bring my laptop if needed. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com/> No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://
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Why are you so surprised, Tom? Why have to think about nautical directions when you can go spend a bunch of money on a GPS system and let it just tell you where to go and when to turn? If people weren't so willing of late to check out and let someone else take care of everything FOR them, we wouldn't be planning this excursion in the first place. Jenny Thrasher Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers www.pictothehighlands.com From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:49:19 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting When I give directions I usually only give N,E,S,W aspects of it, I'm quite surprised how many people do NOT now one direction from the other. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM, CathyM wrote: But I am a visual learner and if I can go to google and get the map and look at it, I know exactly where I am going. VBG I can get very confused sometimes reading directions of left and right as I sometimes forget which is which. And this is a terrible problem for a teacher of the blind in trying to give them directions sometimes! LOL My students have learned to make slight turns in hesitation in case I yell “Stop I meant the other way!” or to be patient while I work it out in my head before saying it outloud. The other day I was trying to tell my mom where to look for something and kept telling her to look one direction when I really meant the other and it was horrible. I have the same problem if I think too hard or long about which way to screw something off or out. You can tell me all day long the rhyme of righty/tighty lefty/loosey and it means nothing to me. >But on the other hand, I can tell you East, West, North and South anytime >anywhere. Isn’t that weird? > >CathyM >Catren's Shar Pei >Catren's Leather Show Accessories >Kill"The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > >From:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:19 PM > >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > >It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you >know.LOL >On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: >Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into my >head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café before 9am > >CathyM >Catren's Shar Pei >Catren's Leather Show Accessories >Kill"The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > >From:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Hornaday >Jr. >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > >Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this Rendezvous >Coffee before 9:00 am. > >Jim Hornaday > > >From:Tom Martz >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:03:21 PM >Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > >Cathy, >The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an across >the street from a parking garage >On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: >Fred >Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave >them? What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in >Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more >fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. > >CathyM >Catren's Shar Pei >Catren's Leather Show Accessories >Kill"The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > >From:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B. Ellison >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:38 PM >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > >I am planning on going to RendezvousCoffee in the morning and walking to the >Gillioz at 9:00am to get in line. > >Fred > > >--- On Sun, 8/30/09, Tom Martz wrote: > >>From: Tom Martz >>Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >>To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 1:38 PM >>Cathy, >> >>There will be people there from all kinds of different groups, sadly one of >>these groups has decided to align themselves with the political
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GOOD POINT On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Jenny Thrasher < jenny_thras...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Why are you so surprised, Tom? Why have to think about nautical directions > when you can go spend a bunch of money on a GPS system and let it just tell > you where to go and when to turn? If people weren't so willing of late to > check out and let someone else take care of everything FOR them, we > wouldn't be planning this excursion in the first place. > > Jenny Thrasher > Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers > www.pictothehighlands.com > > -- > *From:* Tom Martz > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:49:19 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > When I give directions I usually only give N,E,S,W aspects of it, I'm quite > surprised how many people do NOT now one direction from the other. > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM, CathyM wrote: > >> But I am a visual learner and if I can go to google and get the map and >> look at it, I know exactly where I am going. VBG I can get very confused >> sometimes reading directions of left and right as I sometimes forget which >> is which. And this is a terrible problem for a teacher of the blind in >> trying to give them directions sometimes! LOL My students have learned to >> make slight turns in hesitation in case I yell “Stop I meant the other way!” >> or to be patient while I work it out in my head before saying it outloud. >> The other day I was trying to tell my mom where to look for something and >> kept telling her to look one direction when I really meant the other and it >> was horrible. I have the same problem if I think too hard or long about >> which way to screw something off or out. You can tell me all day long the >> rhyme of righty/tighty lefty/loosey and it means nothing to me. >> >> But on the other hand, I can tell you East, West, North and South anytime >> anywhere. Isn’t that weird? >> >> >> >> *CathyM* >> >> *Catren's Shar Pei* >> >> *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* >> >> Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >> >> www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com >> >> * * >> >> >> >> *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Martz >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:19 PM >> >> *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >> >> >> >> It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you >> know.LOL >> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: >> >> Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into >> my head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café >> before 9am >> >> >> >> *CathyM* >> >> *Catren's Shar Pei* >> >> *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* >> >> Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >> >> www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com >> >> * * >> >> >> >> *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Hornaday >> Jr. >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM >> *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >> >> >> >> Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this >> Rendezvous Coffee before 9:00 am. >> >> Jim Hornaday >> >> >> -- >> >> *From:* Tom Martz >> *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:03:21 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >> >> Cathy, >> The place is on Park Central West catycorner from the new Theater an >> across the street from a parking garage >> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, CathyM wrote: >> >> Fred >> >> Where is the Rendezvous Coffee? Can we park our cars down there and leave >> them? What time will you be there? I don’t care what time I am in >> Springfield, all I know is I want to be at this townhall and it is much more >> fun waiting with people you have something in common with then by yourself. >> >> >> >> *CathyM* >> >> *Catren's Shar Pei* >> >> *Catren's Leather Show Acces
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I'm also wondering how hard an alternative to Obamacare would be, in the form of clinics that were set up to offer care to ONLY those without insurance or medicaid. WHat I'm thinking about is that if someone wanted to be a doctor, instead of getting financial aid, they allowed the state to pay for their education with the stipulation that when they get their medical license, they are to work for a set amount of years in a low-income medical facility and accept a much lower rate of pay. Same for nurses. Med school costs a small fortune these days, but I suspect that it would cost a lot less for the government, and individual states to pay for the education of a new doctor than to implement Obamacare, or medicaid. If the hospitals weren't having to operate at a deficit level by raising fees to cover the expected loss from non-payment, perhaps hospital fees could go down as well, and at some near point, the vicious cycle could end. Just a thought. Jenny Thrasher Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers www.pictothehighlands.com From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:29:26 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting GOOD POINT On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: Why are you so surprised, Tom? Why have to think about nautical directions when you can go spend a bunch of money on a GPS system and let it just tell you where to go and when to turn? If people weren't so willing of late to check out and let someone else take care of everything FOR them, we wouldn't be planning this excursion in the first place. > Jenny Thrasher >Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers >www.pictothehighlands.com > > > > > From: Tom Martz >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:49:19 PM > >Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > >When I give directions I usually only give N,E,S,W aspects of it, I'm quite >surprised how many people do NOT now one direction from the other. > > >On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM, CathyM wrote: > >But I am a visual learner and if I can go to google and get the map and look >at it, I know exactly where I am going. VBG I can get very confused >sometimes reading directions of left and right as I sometimes forget which is >which. And this is a terrible problem for a teacher of the blind in trying to >give them directions sometimes! LOL My students have learned to make slight >turns in hesitation in case I yell “Stop I meant the other way!” or to be >patient while I work it out in my head before saying it outloud. The other >day I was trying to tell my mom where to look for something and kept telling >her to look one direction when I really meant the other and it was horrible. >I have the same problem if I think too hard or long about which way to screw >something off or out. You can tell me all day long the rhyme of righty/tighty >lefty/loosey and it means nothing to me. >>But on the other hand, I can tell you East, West, North and South anytime >>anywhere. Isn’t that weird? >> >>CathyM >>Catren's Shar Pei >>Catren's Leather Show Accessories >>Kill"The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >>www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com >> >> >>From:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz >>Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:19 PM >> >>To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >> >>It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you >>know.LOL >>On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: >>Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into my >>head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café before 9am >> >>CathyM >>Catren's Shar Pei >>Catren's Leather Show Accessories >>Kill"The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >>www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com >> >> >>From:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James >>Hornaday Jr. >>Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM >>To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >> >>Hey, good! I too will try to meet the faithful and friendly at this >>Rendezvous Coffee before 9:00 am. >> >>Jim Hornaday >> >> >>From:Tom Martz >>To: missourilibertycoalition@googl
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On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: > Why are you so surprised, Tom? Why have to think about nautical > directions when you can go spend a bunch of money on a GPS system > and let it just tell you where to go and when to turn? If people > weren't so willing of late to check out and let someone else take > care of everything FOR them, we wouldn't be planning this excursion > in the first place. I hate GPS systems and all that. They always tell me "You should have just turned a moment ago you schmuck!" I cannot really navigate around an area until I spend the time to get properly lost in it, take a few wrong turns and so forth. I get the best feel for an area if I walk or bike it (which doesn't happen as much as I like these days). I navigate by landmarks, not streets. My Dad taught me to look up while trying to get somewhere and notice prominent features in the distance, such as church spires, near where you want to go. If you can focus on those features you can always spiral in to your target even if you do not know the streets at all. And wandering around may not get you to where you wanted to go very quickly but you discover lots of interesting things and perhaps it takes you to where you should be going. Quite a few years ago I was walking from the Marina in DC with my fiancé at the time. I wanted to see how things connected to the section of monuments on the river to the North. I had seen it on a map but did not have a good physical grasp of the layout. Very shortly I was "lost". My fiancé became increasingly agitated at this, especially as we cut through a section of slums off of the Red Line there. We got asked several times if we had drugs to sell: Why else would a a couple of well-dressed white folks be walking through there? We walked purposely through and I was at least lightly armed, so we were not bothered much. My fiancé did not understand until quite a bit later that being lost was not a problem and that it had, in fact, been my goal of setting out in that direction. We had an interesting argument... Afterward I had a physical appreciation of exactly how the city was laid out... and the fact that my liberal, tolerant, open- minded fiancé did not want to see poor black people that closely. It was much easier to appreciate their plight from a distance. Sincerely, Eric Vought "Faith does not absolve us from trying to understand our world and make moral distinctions with the eyes and brain given us. Religion is as much responsibility as direction: Duty not Distinction." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Aug 30, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: > I'm also wondering how hard an alternative to Obamacare would be, in > the form of clinics that were set up to offer care to ONLY those > without insurance or medicaid. > > WHat I'm thinking about is that if someone wanted to be a doctor, > instead of getting financial aid, they allowed the state to pay for > their education with the stipulation that when they get their > medical license, they are to work for a set amount of years in a low- > income medical facility and accept a much lower rate of pay. Same > for nurses. Med school costs a small fortune these days, but I > suspect that it would cost a lot less for the government, and > individual states to pay for the education of a new doctor than to > implement Obamacare, or medicaid. If the hospitals weren't having to > operate at a deficit level by raising fees to cover the expected > loss from non-payment, perhaps hospital fees could go down as well, > and at some near point, the vicious cycle could end. Just a thought. And a good thought. It would also do in many cases just to remove the obstacles to doctors offering low-cost services. In many places it is actually illegal to offer medical services below the approved Medicaid cost. In almost all places HMO agreements forbid doctors/facilities offering any services below the approved HMO price. We know that charity would increase without these rules since it was quite common before the rules were put in place. At the extreme end, over 2,000 free or low cost medical facilities once existed in New York City ALONE: outpatient clinics, medical dispensaries, doctors offices, hospitals, etc., etc., the majority provided by Catholics, Baptists, and Jews. The system largely worked before we broke it. Sincerely, Eric Vought "Faith does not absolve us from trying to understand our world and make moral distinctions with the eyes and brain given us. Religion is as much responsibility as direction: Duty not Distinction." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you leave, learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Bring it up tomorrow! Good thought. CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com> www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Thrasher Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:51 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting I'm also wondering how hard an alternative to Obamacare would be, in the form of clinics that were set up to offer care to ONLY those without insurance or medicaid. WHat I'm thinking about is that if someone wanted to be a doctor, instead of getting financial aid, they allowed the state to pay for their education with the stipulation that when they get their medical license, they are to work for a set amount of years in a low-income medical facility and accept a much lower rate of pay. Same for nurses. Med school costs a small fortune these days, but I suspect that it would cost a lot less for the government, and individual states to pay for the education of a new doctor than to implement Obamacare, or medicaid. If the hospitals weren't having to operate at a deficit level by raising fees to cover the expected loss from non-payment, perhaps hospital fees could go down as well, and at some near point, the vicious cycle could end. Just a thought. Jenny Thrasher Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers www.pictothehighlands.com _ From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:29:26 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting GOOD POINT On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: Why are you so surprised, Tom? Why have to think about nautical directions when you can go spend a bunch of money on a GPS system and let it just tell you where to go and when to turn? If people weren't so willing of late to check out and let someone else take care of everything FOR them, we wouldn't be planning this excursion in the first place. Jenny Thrasher Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers www.pictothehighlands.com <http://www.pictothehighlands.com/> _ From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:49:19 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting When I give directions I usually only give N,E,S,W aspects of it, I'm quite surprised how many people do NOT now one direction from the other. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM, CathyM wrote: But I am a visual learner and if I can go to google and get the map and look at it, I know exactly where I am going. VBG I can get very confused sometimes reading directions of left and right as I sometimes forget which is which. And this is a terrible problem for a teacher of the blind in trying to give them directions sometimes! LOL My students have learned to make slight turns in hesitation in case I yell “Stop I meant the other way!” or to be patient while I work it out in my head before saying it outloud. The other day I was trying to tell my mom where to look for something and kept telling her to look one direction when I really meant the other and it was horrible. I have the same problem if I think too hard or long about which way to screw something off or out. You can tell me all day long the rhyme of righty/tighty lefty/loosey and it means nothing to me. But on the other hand, I can tell you East, West, North and South anytime anywhere. Isn’t that weird? CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com/> From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:19 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you know.LOL On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into my head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café before 9am CathyM Catren's Shar Pei Catren's Leather Show Accessories Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com <http://www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com/> From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Hornaday Jr. Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:31 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meet
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I would also like to point out that what I am thinking about with this suggestion is NOT to be confused with any point in the Obamacare plan, because it would not be mandated, nor required, but would instead be an option for future med students. In fact, this is already a program that is going on, but it could be expanded upon to be made more efficient and available to more people. Like I said, though, it's just a thought. Jenny Thrasher Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers www.pictothehighlands.com From: Jenny Thrasher To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:51:07 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting I'm also wondering how hard an alternative to Obamacare would be, in the form of clinics that were set up to offer care to ONLY those without insurance or medicaid. WHat I'm thinking about is that if someone wanted to be a doctor, instead of getting financial aid, they allowed the state to pay for their education with the stipulation that when they get their medical license, they are to work for a set amount of years in a low-income medical facility and accept a much lower rate of pay. Same for nurses. Med school costs a small fortune these days, but I suspect that it would cost a lot less for the government, and individual states to pay for the education of a new doctor than to implement Obamacare, or medicaid. If the hospitals weren't having to operate at a deficit level by raising fees to cover the expected loss from non-payment, perhaps hospital fees could go down as well, and at some near point, the vicious cycle could end. Just a thought. Jenny Thrasher Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers www.pictothehighlands.com From: Tom Martz To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:29:26 PM Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting GOOD POINT On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Jenny Thrasher wrote: Why are you so surprised, Tom? Why have to think about nautical directions when you can go spend a bunch of money on a GPS system and let it just tell you where to go and when to turn? If people weren't so willing of late to check out and let someone else take care of everything FOR them, we wouldn't be planning this excursion in the first place. > Jenny Thrasher >Pict O'the Highlands Scottish Terriers >www.pictothehighlands.com > > > > > From: Tom Martz >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:49:19 PM > >Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting > > >When I give directions I usually only give N,E,S,W aspects of it, I'm quite >surprised how many people do NOT now one direction from the other. > > >On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM, CathyM wrote: > >But I am a visual learner and if I can go to google and get the map and look >at it, I know exactly where I am going. VBG I can get very confused >sometimes reading directions of left and right as I sometimes forget which is >which. And this is a terrible problem for a teacher of the blind in trying to >give them directions sometimes! LOL My students have learned to make slight >turns in hesitation in case I yell “Stop I meant the other way!” or to be >patient while I work it out in my head before saying it outloud. The other >day I was trying to tell my mom where to look for something and kept telling >her to look one direction when I really meant the other and it was horrible. >I have the same problem if I think too hard or long about which way to screw >something off or out. You can tell me all day long the rhyme of righty/tighty >lefty/loosey and it means nothing to me. >>But on the other hand, I can tell you East, West, North and South anytime >>anywhere. Isn’t that weird? >> >>CathyM >>Catren's Shar Pei >>Catren's Leather Show Accessories >>Kill"The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS >>www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com >> >> >>From:missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz >>Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:19 PM >> >>To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >>Subject: Re: Tomorrow Townhall meeting >> >>It would have been to easy to give you the answers, were not liberals you >>know.LOL >>On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM, CathyM wrote: >>Now that I know where things are (had to google them also to get them into my >>head…I just don’t go downtown enough) I will try and be at the café before 9am >> >>CathyM >>Catren's Shar Pei >>Catren's Leather Show Accessories &
