Re: [Mixxx-devel] LateNight skin (was: release progress)
I was just watching my friend use Traktor with 4 decks and I noticed a nice feature I would like to have in Mixxx. When the library view is maximized, condensed views of the decks are shown on top. This would solve the minor issue I have when searching for tracks that I need to toggle away from the big library to see the BPM and key of the current track. On 06/09/2015 12:05 AM, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So there's the space beneath the left deck - where the preview deck lives. The space on the other side is empty. Can the micaux array get shrunk a bit and fit over there? That would save some space, plus be nice and symmetrical. ~RAWRR On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:34:41 + re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:15:37 + Daniel Schürmann dasch...@mixxx.org wrote: If I recall it correct, it should help. This has also the benefit that you can see more tracks in the library. And whatever other controls as well... interesting. Am 08.06.2015 um 23:10 schrieb re-cy...@hushmail.com: Interesting re: CPU. What do you think about decreasing the height but keeping the width re: CPU? ~RAWRR On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:00:52 + Daniel Schürmann dasch...@mixxx.org wrote: Hi Markus, Nice mock-up. In the past we had issues with four full size Waveforms because the CPU usage increases with the size. So I am afraid that view does not suit to be part of Mixxx default skin. IMHO we have already more then enough view options in the LateNight skin. But there should be no problem with a recent devices. If this is the perfect skin for you use case, you are welcome to fork it. Thats the benefit of our skin engine. Kind regards. Daniel Am 08.06.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Markus Klösges: Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] waveform 1 waveform 2 waveform 3 waveform 4 [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so on, just simple crossfading with external mixer and so on. I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen- wide waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that doesn't work out for 4 decks. I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config- options but better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution maybe). The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me and results in lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on. The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader and the preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without the mixer there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would it be possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons) there? That would result in the big waveforms for me. Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) screen- wide and place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as pitch was in 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance, HeadGain and Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be placed like proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of previewDeck and maybe Mics. [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2] [--] [Waveform 3] [--] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4] [--] [Waveform 4] [--] [ Deck1 ] [ Deck2 ] [ Deck3 ] [ Deck4 ] [PreviewDeck] [ Crossfade/Master ] [Microphones] [Samplers] [Effects] [Library] I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and this dosn't get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger waveforms. But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and should better be done in an other skin. What do you think? Cheers, Markus Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be: I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels like putting bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy to solve. There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that it's kinda overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better solutions to those design challenges would take a lot of effort that shouldn't delay 1.12. Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] waveform 1 waveform 2 waveform 3 waveform 4 [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] On 06/06/2015 01:04 PM, Owen Williams wrote: thanks as in, you tested it and it works well? I don't want to commit without someone taking a look at it. On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 09:30 +, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 00:29:14 + Owen Williams owilli...@mixxx.org wrote: I've posted a PR for some new
Re: [Mixxx-devel] LateNight skin (was: release progress)
At this point we've reached the end of the road for how flexible LateNight can be. It's fairly flexible already, and every bit of flexibility I try to add beyond that is causing ripple effects for other layouts. So for now, if you want to experiment with other options, I'd suggest you fork the skin and try moving the pieces around. It might be fun to resurrect LateNight-wide (which may still be in the developer_skins repo) and see if it can be made to behave better. On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 05:05 +, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: So there's the space beneath the left deck - where the preview deck lives. The space on the other side is empty. Can the micaux array get shrunk a bit and fit over there? That would save some space, plus be nice and symmetrical. ~RAWRR On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:34:41 + re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:15:37 + Daniel Schürmann dasch...@mixxx.org wrote: If I recall it correct, it should help. This has also the benefit that you can see more tracks in the library. And whatever other controls as well... interesting. Am 08.06.2015 um 23:10 schrieb re-cy...@hushmail.com: Interesting re: CPU. What do you think about decreasing the height but keeping the width re: CPU? ~RAWRR On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:00:52 + Daniel Schürmann dasch...@mixxx.org wrote: Hi Markus, Nice mock-up. In the past we had issues with four full size Waveforms because the CPU usage increases with the size. So I am afraid that view does not suit to be part of Mixxx default skin. IMHO we have already more then enough view options in the LateNight skin. But there should be no problem with a recent devices. If this is the perfect skin for you use case, you are welcome to fork it. Thats the benefit of our skin engine. Kind regards. Daniel Am 08.06.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Markus Klösges: Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] waveform 1 waveform 2 waveform 3 waveform 4 [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so on, just simple crossfading with external mixer and so on. I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen- wide waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that doesn't work out for 4 decks. I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config- options but better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution maybe). The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me and results in lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on. The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader and the preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without the mixer there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would it be possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons) there? That would result in the big waveforms for me. Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) screen- wide and place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as pitch was in 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance, HeadGain and Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be placed like proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of previewDeck and maybe Mics. [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2] [--] [Waveform 3] [--] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4] [--] [Waveform 4] [--] [ Deck1 ] [ Deck2 ] [ Deck3 ] [ Deck4 ] [PreviewDeck] [ Crossfade/Master ] [Microphones] [Samplers] [Effects] [Library] I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and this dosn't get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger waveforms. But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and should better be done in an other skin. What do you think? Cheers, Markus Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be: I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels like putting bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy to solve. There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that it's kinda overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better solutions to those design challenges would take a lot of effort that shouldn't delay 1.12. Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] waveform 1 waveform 2 waveform 3 waveform 4 [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] On 06/06/2015
Re: [Mixxx-devel] LateNight skin (was: release progress)
Is mentioned earlier - I don't want (you) to clutter LateNight with dozens of configs. I think the proposed one should get another skin. LateNight as it is now is much more structured and easier to understand for new users than the suggested approach is - even if it has some advantages. Just wanted to give my two cents to this thread, didn't ment to rework LateNight - I think its fine for most users. Am 09.06.2015 um 16:23 schrieb Owen Williams: At this point we've reached the end of the road for how flexible LateNight can be. It's fairly flexible already, and every bit of flexibility I try to add beyond that is causing ripple effects for other layouts. So for now, if you want to experiment with other options, I'd suggest you fork the skin and try moving the pieces around. It might be fun to resurrect LateNight-wide (which may still be in the developer_skins repo) and see if it can be made to behave better. On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 05:05 +, re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: So there's the space beneath the left deck - where the preview deck lives. The space on the other side is empty. Can the micaux array get shrunk a bit and fit over there? That would save some space, plus be nice and symmetrical. ~RAWRR On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:34:41 + re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:15:37 + Daniel Schürmann dasch...@mixxx.org wrote: If I recall it correct, it should help. This has also the benefit that you can see more tracks in the library. And whatever other controls as well... interesting. Am 08.06.2015 um 23:10 schrieb re-cy...@hushmail.com: Interesting re: CPU. What do you think about decreasing the height but keeping the width re: CPU? ~RAWRR On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:00:52 + Daniel Schürmann dasch...@mixxx.org wrote: Hi Markus, Nice mock-up. In the past we had issues with four full size Waveforms because the CPU usage increases with the size. So I am afraid that view does not suit to be part of Mixxx default skin. IMHO we have already more then enough view options in the LateNight skin. But there should be no problem with a recent devices. If this is the perfect skin for you use case, you are welcome to fork it. Thats the benefit of our skin engine. Kind regards. Daniel Am 08.06.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Markus Klösges: Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle] [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] waveform 1 waveform 2 waveform 3 waveform 4 [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so on, just simple crossfading with external mixer and so on. I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen- wide waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that doesn't work out for 4 decks. I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config- options but better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution maybe). The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me and results in lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on. The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader and the preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without the mixer there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would it be possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons) there? That would result in the big waveforms for me. Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) screen- wide and place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as pitch was in 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance, HeadGain and Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be placed like proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of previewDeck and maybe Mics. [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2] [--] [Waveform 3] [--] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4] [--] [Waveform 4] [--] [ Deck1 ] [ Deck2 ] [ Deck3 ] [ Deck4 ] [PreviewDeck] [ Crossfade/Master ] [Microphones] [Samplers] [Effects] [Library] I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and this dosn't get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger waveforms. But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and should better be done in an other skin. What do you think? Cheers, Markus Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be: I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels like putting bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy to solve. There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that it's kinda overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better solutions to those design challenges would take a lot of effort that shouldn't delay 1.12. Any thoughts on the general
