Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
This is a roundabout for cars and a cycle path in circular shape around it. I would just not tag the cycle way with roundabout and map what is on the ground. Don't tag for Merkaator … On 23 Apr 2011, at 8:41 , Minko wrote: > a) because it is part of that roundabout. See > http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=vathorst&aq=&sll=52.187628,5.415144&sspn=0.007656,0.022767&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Vathorst,+Amersfoort,+Utrecht&ll=52.196813,5.406022&spn=0.000432,0.002846&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.196813,5.406021&panoid=1w29L-X2unA1vfIPXIZPzg&cbp=11,47.28,,0,11.62 > Even the streetname here is officially called rotonde #1 (rotonde=roundabout) > b) you have to yield to the cycle traffic on the roundabout > c) If you work with the merkaartor editor its very convenient to draw > roundabout circles ;-) > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
On 23 April 2011 16:41, Minko wrote: > a) because it is part of that roundabout. See Yes, I see now, that alone makes it all make sense. And it also means that the oneway=no suggestions of others won't work either. The best I can come up with is to have separate ways for the cycle path part, either not tagged as roundabout at all or tagged oneway=no. I'd consider it very unwise to have roundabouts default to 2-way for cyclists. The ones around here do enough mad stuff without having them come the wrong way around a roundabout too... Dermot -- -- Igaühel on siin oma laul ja ma oma ei leiagi üles ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
a) because it is part of that roundabout. See http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=vathorst&aq=&sll=52.187628,5.415144&sspn=0.007656,0.022767&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Vathorst,+Amersfoort,+Utrecht&ll=52.196813,5.406022&spn=0.000432,0.002846&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.196813,5.406021&panoid=1w29L-X2unA1vfIPXIZPzg&cbp=11,47.28,,0,11.62 Even the streetname here is officially called rotonde #1 (rotonde=roundabout) b) you have to yield to the cycle traffic on the roundabout c) If you work with the merkaartor editor its very convenient to draw roundabout circles ;-) ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
I can't quite work out why we would consider a circular bit of road a roundabout if it isn't one way. The whole point of a roundabout is that you yield to traffic on the roundabout and go around in only one direction. What is special about the conventions of such a circular cycle traffic circle that would make us consider it a roundabout? Dermot -- -- Igaühel on siin oma laul ja ma oma ei leiagi üles ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
I agree, it should be done in the first place on osm. I've started to map the bike path roundabouts which allow twoway cycle traffic with oneway=no ;-) ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
Op 23-04-11 10:42, Henning Scholland schreef: > Hi Minko > Might it be an fault in OSM-data? In Germany junction=roundabout imply > oneway=yes. I don't know exactly how this is handled in other countries, > but I won't be surprised, if this is globally implied. So if there is an > roundabout, which isn't an oneway, you should add an oneway=no. > > Henning > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev I might add that I suspect Ligfietser (=recumbent cyclist) is talking about cycleway roundabouts (or cycleways that circle a roundabout). Many of these (at least in the Netherlands) allow cyclists to take the roundabout in both directions. So, yes, for cars roundabouts will be oneways mostly everywhere, but not necessarily for cyclists or pedestrians. I also note that the wiki tagging page suggests that oneway=yes is implied, so it follows that every non-oneway roundabout should be tagged oneway=no? ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
On 04/23/2011 10:12 AM, Minko wrote:
> I cannot {add oneway=no} with the style file rules because all roundabouts
> are hardcoded set to oneway=yes.
> So this means if someone didnt tag a roundabout with a tag oneway=* there
> will be allways oneway=yes and I cannot see if this yes is hardcoded or not.
> Or can I use something like junction=roundabout& mkgmap:oneway=yes {set
> oneway=no} ??
>
> Is it not better to add this rule to the default style file instead of hard
> coding it?
Junction=roundabout implies oneway=yes. I think the best solution is to
add oneway=no tag to the mapping data if it is missing.
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
Hi Minko Might it be an fault in OSM-data? In Germany junction=roundabout imply oneway=yes. I don't know exactly how this is handled in other countries, but I won't be surprised, if this is globally implied. So if there is an roundabout, which isn't an oneway, you should add an oneway=no. Henning ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] junction=roundabout
Thanks Marko, I didn't notice it until now ;-)
I cannot {add oneway=no} with the style file rules because all roundabouts are
hardcoded set to oneway=yes.
So this means if someone didnt tag a roundabout with a tag oneway=* there will
be allways oneway=yes and I cannot see if this yes is hardcoded or not.
Or can I use something like junction=roundabout & mkgmap:oneway=yes {set
oneway=no} ??
Is it not better to add this rule to the default style file instead of hard
coding it?
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] mkgmap Exception in thread "main" java.lang.AssertionError
I have the same error since 2 week with the germany.pbf-files from ther geofabrik. mkgmap svn 1922 java -Xmx4000M -ea -Dlog.config=/osm/garmin/aio/bin/logging.properties -jar mkgmap-svn.jar --max-jobs=4 --style-file=basemap_style --remove-short-arcs=5 --description='aio-germany' --country-name='germany' --country-abbr='ger' --area-name='germany' --family-id=4 --product-id=45 --series-name='aio-germany' --family-name=basemap --latin1 --mapname=70013001 --draw-priority=10 --add-pois-to-areas --make-all-cycleways --generate-sea=multipolygon,extend-sea-sectors,close-gaps=6000,floodblocker --link-pois-to-ways --route --index --gmapsupp --report-dead-ends=2 --check-roundabouts --check-roundabout-flares --keep-going --tdbfile --nsis --verbose germany-raw/*.osm.gz basemap.TYP The ouput of gmaptool is : gmt v0.4.2.1891n (C) AP Wrong header (first FAT), file gmapsupp.img But now the strange thing : 1) running the africa.pbf-dump works well . Gmapsupp ist ok and work on the garmin-hardware. 2) java -jar /mkgmap.jar --gmapsupp 70013*.img basemap.TYP meake a working gmapsupp from the not-working data. 3) i tried to go back to svn1906 .. same error .. so i think there might be a problem with the data ? Perhaps i could help a little bit. Greeting Dirk ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
