Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Well that was introduced because it is unknown. If you have a map and want to avoid unpaved ways - and select that - then there really should be no unpaved ways. If we don't set unpaved here - the avoidance will not be strict enough anymore... highway=path & bicycle=designated could well be a tracktype=grade2 and sometimes even grade3 or worse... And in cases of a mtb route - clearly something completely unrideable for a normal cyclist... On 8 September 2015 at 10:19, Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved > flag for many cycleways, e.g. > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 > > I see intensive discussions about wrong use of > highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. > > The rule in lines is > (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) > & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* > { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } > > My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but > highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with > bicycle=designated. > > Does anybody have a better solution? > > Gerd > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > -- Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org Floragasse 9/11 1040 Wien Austria - Österreich ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
For Unclassified - yes I agree. It should be rather unpaved. However for at least highway=cycleway and highway=unclassified (very rare anyhow) - I think a country based list wouldn't be too bad. If you know that 99% of such ways in your country are paved - shout out Otherweise IMHO both should be assumed unpaved. Unclassified I would guess paved by default for Central/Western/ European countries? But unpaved for Northern (but not Denmark), Eastern European countries - and the rest of the world? Certainly unpaved for most of Asia and Africa... On 8 September 2015 at 10:46, Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Felix, > > okay, got the point, but why do we assume that a highway=unclassified is > paved > when no other tag gives information? > Might be a good assumption in Germany or Austria, but probably not in > other areas. > > Gerd > > > > -- > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:32:14 +0200 > From: extremecar...@gmail.com > To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved? > > > Well that was introduced because it is unknown. If you have a map and want > to avoid unpaved ways - and select that - then there really should be no > unpaved ways. If we don't set unpaved here - the avoidance will not be > strict enough anymore... > highway=path & bicycle=designated could well be a tracktype=grade2 and > sometimes even grade3 or worse... And in cases of a mtb route - clearly > something completely unrideable for a normal cyclist... > > On 8 September 2015 at 10:19, Gerd Petermann < > gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved > flag for many cycleways, e.g. > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 > > I see intensive discussions about wrong use of > highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. > > The rule in lines is > (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) > & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* > { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } > > My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but > highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with > bicycle=designated. > > Does anybody have a better solution? > > Gerd > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > > > > > -- > Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org > Floragasse 9/11 > 1040 Wien > Austria - Österreich > > ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > -- Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org Floragasse 9/11 1040 Wien Austria - Österreich ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Hi Steve, On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 06:34:34PM +1000, Steve Sgalowski wrote: yet in brisbane , to ipswich area , most are paved with concrete , or bitumen some bicycles just use the main road .. So how can you code for that ? If the ways are accurately tagged as surface=paved or surface=concrete or surface=asphalt (or smoothness=good or whatever), then the rule will not set the key mkgmap:unpaved=1. So, if you want to fix it, please add some surface=* to the affected ways, to make the map more accurate. Theoretically, you could add some bounds-based rules for setting the default surface of bicycle paths, but I would recommend against doing that. I prefer more explicit than implicit (easier for all tools that use the map data). BTW, the "add" keyword in mkgmap style language means "set if not already set to something". The "set" keyword simply overrides any existing value. So, if any other rule already assigned mkgmap:unpaved to something, this rule would not change it further: The rule in lines is (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } And BTW, we have both unpaved and paved cycleways here in Finland (and I guess, Europe in general). There are also lots of forest paths, some of which are rideable by bicycle, depending on the bicycle and rider, and also the current conditions (dry/muddy/snowy/icy). I agree with Felix that unknown should be treated as unpaved, to default to a sane/safe value (do not send racing cycles to potentially unrideable ways). If you do not mind entering unknown surfaces, simply deselect the "avoid unpaved ways" routing setting. Marko ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Hi Felix, okay, got the point, but why do we assume that a highway=unclassified is paved when no other tag gives information? Might be a good assumption in Germany or Austria, but probably not in other areas. Gerd Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:32:14 +0200 From: extremecar...@gmail.com To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved? Well that was introduced because it is unknown. If you have a map and want to avoid unpaved ways - and select that - then there really should be no unpaved ways. If we don't set unpaved here - the avoidance will not be strict enough anymore... highway=path & bicycle=designated could well be a tracktype=grade2 and sometimes even grade3 or worse... And in cases of a mtb route - clearly something completely unrideable for a normal cyclist... On 8 September 2015 at 10:19, Gerd Petermannwrote: Hi all, I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved flag for many cycleways, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 I see intensive discussions about wrong use of highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. The rule in lines is (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with bicycle=designated. Does anybody have a better solution? Gerd ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev -- Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org Floragasse 9/11 1040 Wien Austria - Österreich ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
[mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Hi all, I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved flag for many cycleways, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 I see intensive discussions about wrong use of highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. The rule in lines is (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with bicycle=designated. Does anybody have a better solution? Gerd ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Here in Thailand there is an understanding that an unclassified way is more important than a residential way but less important than a tertiary highway. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand#Highway_classification for more information. Most but not all unclassified ways are paved in Thailand. I never understood the reasoning behind this but the practice is in wide use and mappers here generally abide by it. I think it might have come about because mappers were looking for a way to classify roads that are important connectors but were not strictly residential and that have no official designation like a route number. On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Felix Hartmannwrote: > For Unclassified - yes I agree. It should be rather unpaved. However for > at least highway=cycleway and highway=unclassified (very rare anyhow) - I > think a country based list wouldn't be too bad. If you know that 99% of > such ways in your country are paved - shout out Otherweise IMHO both > should be assumed unpaved. > Unclassified I would guess paved by default for Central/Western/ European > countries? But unpaved for Northern (but not Denmark), Eastern European > countries - and the rest of the world? Certainly unpaved for most of Asia > and Africa... > > On 8 September 2015 at 10:46, Gerd Petermann < > gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Felix, >> >> okay, got the point, but why do we assume that a highway=unclassified is >> paved >> when no other tag gives information? >> Might be a good assumption in Germany or Austria, but probably not in >> other areas. >> >> Gerd >> >> >> >> -- >> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:32:14 +0200 >> From: extremecar...@gmail.com >> To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved? >> >> >> Well that was introduced because it is unknown. If you have a map and >> want to avoid unpaved ways - and select that - then there really should be >> no unpaved ways. If we don't set unpaved here - the avoidance will not be >> strict enough anymore... >> highway=path & bicycle=designated could well be a tracktype=grade2 and >> sometimes even grade3 or worse... And in cases of a mtb route - clearly >> something completely unrideable for a normal cyclist... >> >> On 8 September 2015 at 10:19, Gerd Petermann < >> gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved >> flag for many cycleways, e.g. >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 >> >> I see intensive discussions about wrong use of >> highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. >> >> The rule in lines is >> (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) >> & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* >> { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } >> >> My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but >> highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with >> bicycle=designated. >> >> Does anybody have a better solution? >> >> Gerd >> >> ___ >> mkgmap-dev mailing list >> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org >> Floragasse 9/11 >> 1040 Wien >> Austria - Österreich >> >> ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list >> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> >> ___ >> mkgmap-dev mailing list >> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> > > > > -- > Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org > Floragasse 9/11 > 1040 Wien > Austria - Österreich > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
yet in brisbane , to ipswich area , most are paved with concrete , or bitumen some bicycles just use the main road .. So how can you code for that ? Stephen On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Felix Hartmannwrote: > Well that was introduced because it is unknown. If you have a map and want > to avoid unpaved ways - and select that - then there really should be no > unpaved ways. If we don't set unpaved here - the avoidance will not be > strict enough anymore... > highway=path & bicycle=designated could well be a tracktype=grade2 and > sometimes even grade3 or worse... And in cases of a mtb route - clearly > something completely unrideable for a normal cyclist... > > On 8 September 2015 at 10:19, Gerd Petermann < > gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved >> flag for many cycleways, e.g. >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 >> >> I see intensive discussions about wrong use of >> highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. >> >> The rule in lines is >> (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) >> & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* >> { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } >> >> My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but >> highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with >> bicycle=designated. >> >> Does anybody have a better solution? >> >> Gerd >> >> ___ >> mkgmap-dev mailing list >> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> > > > > -- > Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org > Floragasse 9/11 > 1040 Wien > Austria - Österreich > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Hi Felix, I am sure regarding the signs. Unfortunately one cannot be sure that such a sign was the reason for the tags unless the info is available. On the other hand, if the idea was to prevent racing bikes using these ways, it might be better to keep the rules as they are. A lot of these ways are surface=paving_stones and they go up and down a few cm at each service way and often are very close to entrances, so even as a normal cyclist I don't like to use them. It seems that in my area someone in the government thinks the same way, many of the signs were replaced by a combination of traffic_sign=DE:239;DE:1022-10 I stumbled over this because Basecamp avoids unpaved roads for cycling by default and I wondered why the cycle ways were not used. Gerd Felix Hartmann-2 wrote > Are you sure they are always paved? At least for Austria quite a lot of > them are actually gravel - on the countryside at least. In rural parts > they > are mostly paved... > > On 8 September 2015 at 12:12, GerdP > gpetermann_muenchen@ > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I think I should add that in Germany we have thousands of these >> ways, and I am very sure that most of them are paved. >> The reason is that Germany is full of signs like 237 , 241, and 242 >> (see http://osmtools.de/traffic_signs/) >> and that page still recommends to use the tags "highway=path" and >> "bicycle=designated" for them. In Germany a cyclist has to use these >> ways, so you can be pretty sure that they are paved. >> >> So, maybe we can add an exception for Germany? >> Gerd >> >> >> GerdP wrote >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved >> > flag for many cycleways, e.g. >> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 >> > >> > I see intensive discussions about wrong use of >> > highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. >> > >> > The rule in lines is >> > (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) >> > & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* >> > { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } >> > >> > My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but >> > highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with >> > bicycle=designated. >> > >> > Does anybody have a better solution? >> > >> > Gerd >> > >> > ___ >> > mkgmap-dev mailing list >> >> > mkgmap-dev@.org >> >> > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/default-style-highway-path-means-unpaved-tp5854174p5854203.html >> Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ___ >> mkgmap-dev mailing list >> > mkgmap-dev@.org >> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> > > > > -- > Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org > Floragasse 9/11 > 1040 Wien > Austria - Österreich > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@.org > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/default-style-highway-path-means-unpaved-tp5854174p5854206.html Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
[mkgmap-dev] [patch] add support for information=guidepost POI in default style
Hi, The default style currently has information=guidepost POIs set as a toilet icon. This patch changes information=guidepost to be an 'i' in a circle. For reference, here's an example of a POI with this tag: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2883638464 Thanks, Ben diff --git a/resources/styles/default/points b/resources/styles/default/points index 797e2f4..9c90fd9 100644 --- a/resources/styles/default/points +++ b/resources/styles/default/points @@ -211,6 +211,8 @@ historic=museum [0x2c02 resolution 24] historic=archaeological_site | historic=ruins [0x2c02 resolution 24] historic=memorial [0x2c02 resolution 24] +information=guidepost [0x4c00 resolution 24] + leisure=common & name=* [0x2c06 resolution 24] leisure=garden & name=* [0x2c06 resolution 24] leisure=golf_course [0x2d05 resolution 24] ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Are you sure they are always paved? At least for Austria quite a lot of them are actually gravel - on the countryside at least. In rural parts they are mostly paved... On 8 September 2015 at 12:12, GerdPwrote: > Hi all, > I think I should add that in Germany we have thousands of these > ways, and I am very sure that most of them are paved. > The reason is that Germany is full of signs like 237 , 241, and 242 > (see http://osmtools.de/traffic_signs/) > and that page still recommends to use the tags "highway=path" and > "bicycle=designated" for them. In Germany a cyclist has to use these > ways, so you can be pretty sure that they are paved. > > So, maybe we can add an exception for Germany? > Gerd > > > GerdP wrote > > Hi all, > > > > I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved > > flag for many cycleways, e.g. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 > > > > I see intensive discussions about wrong use of > > highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. > > > > The rule in lines is > > (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) > > & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* > > { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } > > > > My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but > > highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with > > bicycle=designated. > > > > Does anybody have a better solution? > > > > Gerd > > > > ___ > > mkgmap-dev mailing list > > > mkgmap-dev@.org > > > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/default-style-highway-path-means-unpaved-tp5854174p5854203.html > Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > -- Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org Floragasse 9/11 1040 Wien Austria - Österreich ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] [patch] add support for information=guidepost POI in default style
Hi Ben, the node in your example has the tag tourism=information and the default style contains the rule. tourism=information [0x2f0c resolution 24] Your patch adds the rule information=guidepost [0x4c00 resolution 24] I'd prefer to modify the existing rule, but I don't know which of the types is more likely to show the wanted icon. Gerd Ben Konrath wrote > Hi, > > The default style currently has information=guidepost POIs set as a toilet > icon. This patch changes information=guidepost to be an 'i' in a circle. > For reference, here's an example of a POI with this tag: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2883638464 > > Thanks, Ben > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@.org > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > > mkgmap-add-support-for-information-guidepost.patch (746 bytes) > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/attachment/5854217/0/mkgmap-add-support-for-information-guidepost.patch; -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/patch-add-support-for-information-guidepost-POI-in-default-style-tp5854217p5854227.html Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?
Hi all, I think I should add that in Germany we have thousands of these ways, and I am very sure that most of them are paved. The reason is that Germany is full of signs like 237 , 241, and 242 (see http://osmtools.de/traffic_signs/) and that page still recommends to use the tags "highway=path" and "bicycle=designated" for them. In Germany a cyclist has to use these ways, so you can be pretty sure that they are paved. So, maybe we can add an exception for Germany? Gerd GerdP wrote > Hi all, > > I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved > flag for many cycleways, e.g. > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019 > > I see intensive discussions about wrong use of > highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag. > > The rule in lines is > (highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced) > & surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=* > { add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } > > My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but > highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with > bicycle=designated. > > Does anybody have a better solution? > > Gerd > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@.org > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/default-style-highway-path-means-unpaved-tp5854174p5854203.html Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] [patch] add support for information=guidepost POI in default style
Hi Gerd, I've attached a new patch with the previously mentioned change. I've also changed the other POI using 0x2f0c to 'amenity=toilets & highway=rest_area' which seems to match the POI type better. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ben Konrathwrote: > Hi Gerd, > > I didn't spend too much time digging into this but I agree that it makes > sense to solve this correctly. > > According to this XLS file with Garmin POIs, 0x2f0c is for Toilets and > will be listed in the the Auto Services -> Rest Area / Tourist Info > category. > > http://www.cferrero.net/maps/downloads/garmin_feature_list.xls > > > 0x2F0CToiletBlue, smallAuto ServicesRest Area / Tourist > Info YesRestroom > > According to the osm tag page, tourism=information is for information > sources, not toilets. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation > > I propose that we just change tourism=information to 0x4c00 regardless of > the the information=* refinement and ignore the previous patch. > > tourism=information [0x4c00 resolution 24] > > What do you think? > > Thanks, Ben > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:48 PM, GerdP > wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> the node in your example has the tag tourism=information >> and the default style contains the rule. >> tourism=information [0x2f0c resolution 24] >> >> Your patch adds the rule >> information=guidepost [0x4c00 resolution 24] >> >> I'd prefer to modify the existing rule, >> but I don't know which of the types is more >> likely to show the wanted icon. >> >> Gerd >> >> >> >> Ben Konrath wrote >> > Hi, >> > >> > The default style currently has information=guidepost POIs set as a >> toilet >> > icon. This patch changes information=guidepost to be an 'i' in a circle. >> > For reference, here's an example of a POI with this tag: >> > >> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2883638464 >> > >> > Thanks, Ben >> > >> > ___ >> > mkgmap-dev mailing list >> >> > mkgmap-dev@.org >> >> > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> > >> > mkgmap-add-support-for-information-guidepost.patch (746 bytes) >> > < >> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/attachment/5854217/0/mkgmap-add-support-for-information-guidepost.patch >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/patch-add-support-for-information-guidepost-POI-in-default-style-tp5854217p5854227.html >> Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ___ >> mkgmap-dev mailing list >> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk >> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev >> > > diff --git a/resources/styles/default/points b/resources/styles/default/points index 797e2f4..defe00d 100644 --- a/resources/styles/default/points +++ b/resources/styles/default/points @@ -189,7 +189,7 @@ amenity=supermarket [0x2e02 resolution 24] amenity=taxi [0x2f17 resolution 24] amenity=telephone [0x2f12 resolution 24 default_name 'Telephone'] amenity=theatre [0x2d01 resolution 24] -amenity=toilets & tourism=information [0x2f0c resolution 24] +amenity=toilets & highway=rest_area [0x2f0c resolution 24] highway=rest_area [0x2000 resolution 24 default_name 'Rest Area'] amenity=toilets [0x4e00 resolution 24 default_name 'Toilets' ] amenity=townhall [0x3003 resolution 24] @@ -304,7 +304,7 @@ tourism=chalet [0x2b02 resolution 24] tourism=guest_house [0x2b02 resolution 24] tourism=hostel [0x2b02 resolution 24] tourism=hotel | tourism=motel [0x2b01 resolution 24] -tourism=information [0x2f0c resolution 24] +tourism=information [0x4c00 resolution 24] # tourism=lean_to replaces some uses of amenity=shelter tourism=lean_to [0x2b05 resolution 24 default_name 'lean-to'] tourism=wilderness_hut [0x2b07 resolution 24 default_name 'wilderness hut'] ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] [patch] add support for information=guidepost POI in default style
Hi Gerd, I didn't spend too much time digging into this but I agree that it makes sense to solve this correctly. According to this XLS file with Garmin POIs, 0x2f0c is for Toilets and will be listed in the the Auto Services -> Rest Area / Tourist Info category. http://www.cferrero.net/maps/downloads/garmin_feature_list.xls > 0x2F0CToiletBlue, smallAuto ServicesRest Area / Tourist Info YesRestroom According to the osm tag page, tourism=information is for information sources, not toilets. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dinformation I propose that we just change tourism=information to 0x4c00 regardless of the the information=* refinement and ignore the previous patch. tourism=information [0x4c00 resolution 24] What do you think? Thanks, Ben On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:48 PM, GerdPwrote: > Hi Ben, > > the node in your example has the tag tourism=information > and the default style contains the rule. > tourism=information [0x2f0c resolution 24] > > Your patch adds the rule > information=guidepost [0x4c00 resolution 24] > > I'd prefer to modify the existing rule, > but I don't know which of the types is more > likely to show the wanted icon. > > Gerd > > > > Ben Konrath wrote > > Hi, > > > > The default style currently has information=guidepost POIs set as a > toilet > > icon. This patch changes information=guidepost to be an 'i' in a circle. > > For reference, here's an example of a POI with this tag: > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2883638464 > > > > Thanks, Ben > > > > ___ > > mkgmap-dev mailing list > > > mkgmap-dev@.org > > > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > > > > mkgmap-add-support-for-information-guidepost.patch (746 bytes) > > < > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/attachment/5854217/0/mkgmap-add-support-for-information-guidepost.patch > > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/patch-add-support-for-information-guidepost-POI-in-default-style-tp5854217p5854227.html > Sent from the Mkgmap Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev