Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
The road labels only show up with the most detailed level or resolution. On 12/1/18 1:43 PM, brad wrote: thx, I got it figured out for towns/villages to show at a lower resolution. Road labels still have me puzzled. I know how to control the level/resolution for the road, but how can I get labels at a lower resolution, or more labels? I don't use Basecamp, I use QMapshack and a Garmin Montana. On 12/1/18 5:28 AM, lig fietser wrote: Yes, what Arndt writes is correct, for most pois Basecamp decides when it shows up. But there are some pois that Basecamp does not control, so you can use mkgmap to set those levels. I don't have a list of which pois are controlled by Basecamp, it is always a matter of trial and error. Complicated factor is that it also depends on the device; it is totally non consistent, sometimes a big mess what Garmin has made. And the rendering in Mapsource is also different, but it is more compatible with mkgmap than Basecamp. *Van:* mkgmap-dev namens Arndt Röhrig *Verzonden:* zaterdag 1 december 2018 03:41 *Aan:* Development list for mkgmap *Onderwerp:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering With hardwired I mean next: For exampel: amenity=fuel [0x2f01 resolution 22] and detail level "middle". The gas stations disapper at 70m. But the switch between resolution 24 and 23 is at 300m and between 23 and 22 at 500m. Sure, a higher detail level and the station will disappear later, but not at the scale like other elements. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
thx, I got it figured out for towns/villages to show at a lower resolution. Road labels still have me puzzled. I know how to control the level/resolution for the road, but how can I get labels at a lower resolution, or more labels? I don't use Basecamp, I use QMapshack and a Garmin Montana. On 12/1/18 5:28 AM, lig fietser wrote: Yes, what Arndt writes is correct, for most pois Basecamp decides when it shows up. But there are some pois that Basecamp does not control, so you can use mkgmap to set those levels. I don't have a list of which pois are controlled by Basecamp, it is always a matter of trial and error. Complicated factor is that it also depends on the device; it is totally non consistent, sometimes a big mess what Garmin has made. And the rendering in Mapsource is also different, but it is more compatible with mkgmap than Basecamp. *Van:* mkgmap-dev namens Arndt Röhrig *Verzonden:* zaterdag 1 december 2018 03:41 *Aan:* Development list for mkgmap *Onderwerp:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering With hardwired I mean next: For exampel: amenity=fuel [0x2f01 resolution 22] and detail level "middle". The gas stations disapper at 70m. But the switch between resolution 24 and 23 is at 300m and between 23 and 22 at 500m. Sure, a higher detail level and the station will disappear later, but not at the scale like other elements. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
Hi Brad, there are many factors: - Style for mkgmap, used for compiling. It defines maximum level of an object and the content of a label. Some markers in label can hide a part of a label, depending on zoom level. - TYP file attached to mapset. It defines graphics of an object, size and colour of a label and label visibility. - Settings in GPS. Some GPS allow to modify maximum zoom levels, label sizes and visibility. - Hardcoded properties of GPS. Some GPS don't allow for settings and these properties are simply hardcoded. Many POI have a hardcoded maximum level, railroads 0x14 usually are limited to most detailed level. -- Best regards, Andrzej ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
Yes, what Arndt writes is correct, for most pois Basecamp decides when it shows up. But there are some pois that Basecamp does not control, so you can use mkgmap to set those levels. I don't have a list of which pois are controlled by Basecamp, it is always a matter of trial and error. Complicated factor is that it also depends on the device; it is totally non consistent, sometimes a big mess what Garmin has made. And the rendering in Mapsource is also different, but it is more compatible with mkgmap than Basecamp. Van: mkgmap-dev namens Arndt Röhrig Verzonden: zaterdag 1 december 2018 03:41 Aan: Development list for mkgmap Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering With hardwired I mean next: For exampel: amenity=fuel [0x2f01 resolution 22] and detail level "middle". The gas stations disapper at 70m. But the switch between resolution 24 and 23 is at 300m and between 23 and 22 at 500m. Sure, a higher detail level and the station will disappear later, but not at the scale like other elements. ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
With hardwired I mean next:For exampel:amenity=fuel [0x2f01 resolution 22] and detail level "middle".The gas stations disapper at 70m. But the switch between resolution 24 and 23 is at 300m and between 23 and 22 at 500m. Sure, a higher detail level and the station will disappear later, but not at the scale like other elements.Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> hat am 1. Dezember 2018 um 11:44 geschrieben: Hi, I think it depends on the selected map detail level what labels are rendered. Gerd Von: mkgmap-dev < mkgmap-dev-boun...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Arndt Röhrig < ar...@speichenkarte.de> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Dezember 2018 11:34 An: Development list for mkgmap; lig fietser; brad Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering Hi all, My observation is, that ome POIs are hard-wired in BaseCamp. They care little about "resolution." On an Oregon and certainly other Garmins, there is an option to zoom scales. If you place there 200m all POIs uses this value. Greetz Arndt lig fietser < ligfiet...@hotmail.com> hat am 1. Dezember 2018 um 09:28 geschrieben: About levels, you can specify resolution or level in your style files For example tourism=hotel [0x2b01 resolution 24] 24 means that a hotel appears only in the highest zoom level If you specify 20 it appears from zoom 20 or higher. If you specify 20-22 it appears only in that range, so not on the highest zoom level 24 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/help/custom Font size can only be specified in the typ file, I use an editor like typviewer. You can choose an invisible, small, default or large font style. But bear in mind that on most Garmins units font size can be controlled only if it is set to default in the typ file. Brad wrote: How are street/highway/POI labels controlled, level and font size? How can I change them? ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
Hi, I think it depends on the selected map detail level what labels are rendered. Gerd Von: mkgmap-dev im Auftrag von Arndt Röhrig Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Dezember 2018 11:34 An: Development list for mkgmap; lig fietser; brad Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering Hi all, My observation is, that ome POIs are hard-wired in BaseCamp. They care little about "resolution." On an Oregon and certainly other Garmins, there is an option to zoom scales. If you place there 200m all POIs uses this value. Greetz Arndt lig fietser hat am 1. Dezember 2018 um 09:28 geschrieben: About levels, you can specify resolution or level in your style files For example tourism=hotel [0x2b01 resolution 24] 24 means that a hotel appears only in the highest zoom level If you specify 20 it appears from zoom 20 or higher. If you specify 20-22 it appears only in that range, so not on the highest zoom level 24 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/help/custom Font size can only be specified in the typ file, I use an editor like typviewer. You can choose an invisible, small, default or large font style. But bear in mind that on most Garmins units font size can be controlled only if it is set to default in the typ file. Brad wrote: How are street/highway/POI labels controlled, level and font size? How can I change them? ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
Hi all,My observation is, that ome POIs are hard-wired in BaseCamp. They care little about "resolution." On an Oregon and certainly other Garmins, there is an option to zoom scales. If you place there 200m all POIs uses this value.GreetzArndtlig fietser hat am 1. Dezember 2018 um 09:28 geschrieben: About levels, you can specify resolution or level in your style files For example tourism=hotel [0x2b01 resolution 24] 24 means that a hotel appears only in the highest zoom level If you specify 20 it appears from zoom 20 or higher.If you specify 20-22 it appears only in that range, so not on the highest zoom level 24 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/help/customFont size can only be specified in the typ file, I use an editor like typviewer.You can choose an invisible, small, default or large font style.But bear in mind that on most Garmins units font size can be controlled only if it is set to default in the typ file. Brad wrote: How are street/highway/POI labels controlled, level and font size? How can I change them? ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] label rendering
About levels, you can specify resolution or level in your style files For example tourism=hotel [0x2b01 resolution 24] 24 means that a hotel appears only in the highest zoom level If you specify 20 it appears from zoom 20 or higher. If you specify 20-22 it appears only in that range, so not on the highest zoom level 24 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/help/custom Font size can only be specified in the typ file, I use an editor like typviewer. You can choose an invisible, small, default or large font style. But bear in mind that on most Garmins units font size can be controlled only if it is set to default in the typ file. Brad wrote: How are street/highway/POI labels controlled, level and font size? How can I change them? ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
