Re: [mkgmap-dev] option link-pois-to-ways information
Hi Gerd highway=street_lamp was just an example of a POI that can get linked to a WAY that can be ignored. There are others that are valid OSM tagging that are irrelevant to the highway behaviour. Actually, regardless of --link-pois-to-ways, there is a problem in the scenario where there is typical road system linked to a small road system by just a road with mkgmap:throughroute=no and a footway. BaseCamp and the eTrex 30x really will route over the footway to get into the small road system. MapSource and, I think, the eTrex HCx will use the road. I realise that this set-up seems unlikely, but can happen if there is an inconsistency in the tagging of roads in the small system that results in one not having mkgmap:throughroute=no that is joined to the footway. My example happened in a business park. My style makes this problem more likely to happen, while also trying to fix it, by not setting mkgmap:throughroute=no unless there seems to be a good reason for it. Good reasons are when there is a barrier on a service road. This is the test I want to improve. Ticker On Tue, 2022-02-15 at 14:12 +, Gerd Petermann wrote: > Hi Ticker, > > if you find highway=street_lamp nodes on highway=* ways those are > errors and should be fixed in OSM. > Street lamps are normally mapped along the road, not on the road. > > Maybe you meant highway=traffic_signals? > > Besides that Basecamp should never route a car over a footway. That > sounds like an error in the map data produced by mkgmap > or maybe you used wrong routing settings. Please let me know how to > reproduce. > > No idea if your proposed change would improve routing, but feel free > to experiment with that. > > Gerd > > > Von: mkgmap-dev im Auftrag > von Ticker Berkin > Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Februar 2022 13:37 > An: mkgmap development > Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] option link-pois-to-ways information > > Hi all > > To improve routing, I'd like to get information about the POIS that > are > being linked to a WAY that can be used as part of the style/lines > processing. > > The problem I'm trying to solve is to restrict car routing through > some > types of very low level roads (eg service) when there is a barrier. > Setting mkgmap:throughroute=no on these works nicely with MapSource > and > older devices but BaseCamp and newer devices will happily route over > a > footpath to avoid a throughroute=no section. > > At the moment, with --link-pois-to-ways, if the POI has a barrier or > highway tag, mkgmap:way-has-pois is set true. This can be tested by > lines, inc/access etc, but there is no way to find out if it is a > significant barrier or something like highway=street_lamp. > > points processing can set mkgmap: access & road_speed/class variables > that are handled by inbuild code after lines processing to imposes > more > restrictions on the way and/or reduces speed/class; this is no use > for > what I want to do. > > Possibilities are: > 1/ have options to say which POI tag/value combinations cause > link-pois-to-ways > 2/ set new variables on the way, eg mkgmap:barrier_tags/highway_tags, > which are a list of distinct POI highway/barrier tag values. > > Ticker > > > > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev > ___ > mkgmap-dev mailing list > mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk > https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
Re: [mkgmap-dev] option link-pois-to-ways information
Hi Ticker, if you find highway=street_lamp nodes on highway=* ways those are errors and should be fixed in OSM. Street lamps are normally mapped along the road, not on the road. Maybe you meant highway=traffic_signals? Besides that Basecamp should never route a car over a footway. That sounds like an error in the map data produced by mkgmap or maybe you used wrong routing settings. Please let me know how to reproduce. No idea if your proposed change would improve routing, but feel free to experiment with that. Gerd Von: mkgmap-dev im Auftrag von Ticker Berkin Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Februar 2022 13:37 An: mkgmap development Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] option link-pois-to-ways information Hi all To improve routing, I'd like to get information about the POIS that are being linked to a WAY that can be used as part of the style/lines processing. The problem I'm trying to solve is to restrict car routing through some types of very low level roads (eg service) when there is a barrier. Setting mkgmap:throughroute=no on these works nicely with MapSource and older devices but BaseCamp and newer devices will happily route over a footpath to avoid a throughroute=no section. At the moment, with --link-pois-to-ways, if the POI has a barrier or highway tag, mkgmap:way-has-pois is set true. This can be tested by lines, inc/access etc, but there is no way to find out if it is a significant barrier or something like highway=street_lamp. points processing can set mkgmap: access & road_speed/class variables that are handled by inbuild code after lines processing to imposes more restrictions on the way and/or reduces speed/class; this is no use for what I want to do. Possibilities are: 1/ have options to say which POI tag/value combinations cause link-pois-to-ways 2/ set new variables on the way, eg mkgmap:barrier_tags/highway_tags, which are a list of distinct POI highway/barrier tag values. Ticker ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
[mkgmap-dev] option link-pois-to-ways information
Hi all To improve routing, I'd like to get information about the POIS that are being linked to a WAY that can be used as part of the style/lines processing. The problem I'm trying to solve is to restrict car routing through some types of very low level roads (eg service) when there is a barrier. Setting mkgmap:throughroute=no on these works nicely with MapSource and older devices but BaseCamp and newer devices will happily route over a footpath to avoid a throughroute=no section. At the moment, with --link-pois-to-ways, if the POI has a barrier or highway tag, mkgmap:way-has-pois is set true. This can be tested by lines, inc/access etc, but there is no way to find out if it is a significant barrier or something like highway=street_lamp. points processing can set mkgmap: access & road_speed/class variables that are handled by inbuild code after lines processing to imposes more restrictions on the way and/or reduces speed/class; this is no use for what I want to do. Possibilities are: 1/ have options to say which POI tag/value combinations cause link-pois-to-ways 2/ set new variables on the way, eg mkgmap:barrier_tags/highway_tags, which are a list of distinct POI highway/barrier tag values. Ticker ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
