Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-09 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi Dave,

you can check the role in the apply rule, something like
(type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
{ apply  role=inner
  {
set tmp:role_inner=yes
  }
}

Gerd


Von: Dave Swarthout 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2018 15:02
An: Gerd Petermann
Cc: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to 
display?

Regarding my last post: The rule you gave me works but, as I said, it renders 
any boundary that has a name, including in my case, a township administrative 
boundary. However, it also renders both inner and outer ways. I'm going to give 
up on that for now, unless anyone can think of a way to convince mkgmap to 
render inners separately from outers. It's not a big deal. I can easily live 
with what I have.

The non-rendering islands issue was my own fault. I forgot to assign role=inner 
to the islands in a multipolygon relation they are also a part of. The boundary 
rendered fine but there was no "land" showing. (The islands are all outers in 
the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge relation.) Anyway, all is well now.

Thanks,

Dave

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:10 PM Dave Swarthout 
mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That does work but it makes all ways that are named boundary relations ( with 
mkgmap:boundary_name =*) render with the same style. I can live with that but 
I'm still wondering if there is a way to force it to only operate on inners and 
only on ways of type boundary=protected_area ? Can I set in "relations" and 
test in "lines" for a new mkgmap:boundary_name, for example, boundary1_name?

Another interesting problem I just noticed is that simple islands (not 
multipolygons) whose coastlines are also boundaries do not display as islands, 
only as members of the refuge they are a part of. The coastlines fail to 
display whether or not the above code is active or commented out so it must be 
a separate issue. Take a look at Village Islands inside the Kodiak National 
Wildlife Refuge. These display as  continuous boundaries with my style 
[0x10e12], but there is no "land" inside the boundaries, only sea. So, these 
objects are tagged as place=islet, natural=coastline, but they are also outers 
in the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 6:13 PM Gerd Petermann 
mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Dave,

there is code in mkgmap to treat multipolygon relations. See mkgmap:mp_created 
and mkgmap:stylefilter in http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/doc/pdf/style-manual.pdf
The multipolygon code produces those extra ways only for the outer rings.
If you just want to render the outlines you may use something like
mkgmap:boundary_name=* 0x10e12 resolution 19 continue]
at the top of the lines file.

Gerd


Von: Dave Swarthout mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>>
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 11:30
An: Gerd Petermann
Cc: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to 
display?

Yes, that's confusing to me. I included those snippets to illustrate what I am 
currently using — maybe you can explain to me stepwise how those boundaries get 
rendered?

Is there code inside mkgmap that interprets such directives and applies tags to 
the outer ways of relations? If there is then I assume the same can be done for 
those inners. And you would be the one who can best answer that question.

Thanks for taking the time to explain.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 5:03 PM Gerd Petermann 
mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com><mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>>>
 wrote:
Hi Dave,

in the relations rule you set mkgmap:boundary_name but in the lines rule you 
don't use that.

Gerd


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Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 03:18
An: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to  
display?

Hi,

I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The boundaries 
weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file modeled after 
the administrative boundary code in the default style that adds a name to 
protected areas like so:

(type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
{ apply
  {
set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' | '${name}';
  }
}

Then in my lines file I included a line style

Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-09 Thread Dave Swarthout
Regarding my last post: The rule you gave me works but, as I said, it
renders any boundary that has a name, including in my case, a township
administrative boundary. However, it also renders both inner and outer
ways. I'm going to give up on that for now, unless anyone can think of a
way to convince mkgmap to render inners separately from outers. It's not a
big deal. I can easily live with what I have.

The non-rendering islands issue was my own fault. I forgot to assign
role=inner to the islands in a multipolygon relation they are also a part
of. The boundary rendered fine but there was no "land" showing. (The
islands are all outers in the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge relation.)
Anyway, all is well now.

Thanks,

Dave

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:10 PM Dave Swarthout 
wrote:

> That does work but it makes all ways that are named boundary relations (
> with mkgmap:boundary_name =*) render with the same style. I can live with
> that but I'm still wondering if there is a way to force it to only operate
> on inners and only on ways of type boundary=protected_area ? Can I set in
> "relations" and test in "lines" for a new mkgmap:boundary_name, for
> example, boundary1_name?
>
> Another interesting problem I just noticed is that simple islands (not
> multipolygons) whose coastlines are also boundaries do not display as
> islands, only as members of the refuge they are a part of. The coastlines
> fail to display whether or not the above code is active or commented out so
> it must be a separate issue. Take a look at Village Islands inside the
> Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge. These display as  continuous boundaries
> with my style [0x10e12], but there is no "land" inside the boundaries, only
> sea. So, these objects are tagged as place=islet, natural=coastline, but
> they are also outers in the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 6:13 PM Gerd Petermann <
> gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> there is code in mkgmap to treat multipolygon relations. See
>> mkgmap:mp_created and mkgmap:stylefilter in
>> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/doc/pdf/style-manual.pdf
>> The multipolygon code produces those extra ways only for the outer rings.
>> If you just want to render the outlines you may use something like
>> mkgmap:boundary_name=* 0x10e12 resolution 19 continue]
>> at the top of the lines file.
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>> ________________
>> Von: Dave Swarthout 
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 11:30
>> An: Gerd Petermann
>> Cc: Development list for mkgmap
>> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary
>> relation to display?
>>
>> Yes, that's confusing to me. I included those snippets to illustrate what
>> I am currently using — maybe you can explain to me stepwise how those
>> boundaries get rendered?
>>
>> Is there code inside mkgmap that interprets such directives and applies
>> tags to the outer ways of relations? If there is then I assume the same can
>> be done for those inners. And you would be the one who can best answer that
>> question.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to explain.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 5:03 PM Gerd Petermann <
>> gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> in the relations rule you set mkgmap:boundary_name but in the lines rule
>> you don't use that.
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>> 
>> Von: mkgmap-dev > mkgmap-dev-boun...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Dave Swarthout <
>> daveswarth...@gmail.com<mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 03:18
>> An: Development list for mkgmap
>> Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation
>> to  display?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The
>> boundaries weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file
>> modeled after the administrative boundary code in the default style that
>> adds a name to protected areas like so:
>>
>> (type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
>> { apply
>>   {
>> set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' |
>> '${name}';
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as:
>> boundary=nature_reserve | boundary=protected_

Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave Swarthout  writes:

> I do use a fill. It isn't a solid color but a small letter "R" to stand for
> Reserve. That does show me where the inners are in a fashion but I would
> like to experiment with getting them to display with some sort of a line.

Certainly that makes sense and my comments were stronger than they
should have been.

I wonder if the issue is with things being too large to fit in some sort
of tile, or if this happens even for small objects.
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
That does work but it makes all ways that are named boundary relations (
with mkgmap:boundary_name =*) render with the same style. I can live with
that but I'm still wondering if there is a way to force it to only operate
on inners and only on ways of type boundary=protected_area ? Can I set in
"relations" and test in "lines" for a new mkgmap:boundary_name, for
example, boundary1_name?

Another interesting problem I just noticed is that simple islands (not
multipolygons) whose coastlines are also boundaries do not display as
islands, only as members of the refuge they are a part of. The coastlines
fail to display whether or not the above code is active or commented out so
it must be a separate issue. Take a look at Village Islands inside the
Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge. These display as  continuous boundaries
with my style [0x10e12], but there is no "land" inside the boundaries, only
sea. So, these objects are tagged as place=islet, natural=coastline, but
they are also outers in the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 6:13 PM Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> there is code in mkgmap to treat multipolygon relations. See
> mkgmap:mp_created and mkgmap:stylefilter in
> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/doc/pdf/style-manual.pdf
> The multipolygon code produces those extra ways only for the outer rings.
> If you just want to render the outlines you may use something like
> mkgmap:boundary_name=* 0x10e12 resolution 19 continue]
> at the top of the lines file.
>
> Gerd
>
> 
> Von: Dave Swarthout 
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 11:30
> An: Gerd Petermann
> Cc: Development list for mkgmap
> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary
> relation to display?
>
> Yes, that's confusing to me. I included those snippets to illustrate what
> I am currently using — maybe you can explain to me stepwise how those
> boundaries get rendered?
>
> Is there code inside mkgmap that interprets such directives and applies
> tags to the outer ways of relations? If there is then I assume the same can
> be done for those inners. And you would be the one who can best answer that
> question.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to explain.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 5:03 PM Gerd Petermann <
> gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> in the relations rule you set mkgmap:boundary_name but in the lines rule
> you don't use that.
>
> Gerd
>
> 
> Von: mkgmap-dev  mkgmap-dev-boun...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Dave Swarthout <
> daveswarth...@gmail.com<mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 03:18
> An: Development list for mkgmap
> Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation
> to  display?
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The
> boundaries weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file
> modeled after the administrative boundary code in the default style that
> adds a name to protected areas like so:
>
> (type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
> { apply
>   {
> set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' | '${name}';
>   }
> }
>
> Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as:
> boundary=nature_reserve | boundary=protected_area [0x10e12 resolution 19].
>
> This works well but the lines bounding the inner areas of these relations
> do not render. How can I make them display?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Dave
>
> --
> Dave Swarthout
> Homer, Alaska
> Chiang Mai, Thailand
> Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
>
>
> --
> Dave Swarthout
> Homer, Alaska
> Chiang Mai, Thailand
> Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
>


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Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-08 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi Dave,

there is code in mkgmap to treat multipolygon relations. See mkgmap:mp_created 
and mkgmap:stylefilter in http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/doc/pdf/style-manual.pdf
The multipolygon code produces those extra ways only for the outer rings.
If you just want to render the outlines you may use something like
mkgmap:boundary_name=* 0x10e12 resolution 19 continue]
at the top of the lines file.

Gerd


Von: Dave Swarthout 
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 11:30
An: Gerd Petermann
Cc: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to 
display?

Yes, that's confusing to me. I included those snippets to illustrate what I am 
currently using — maybe you can explain to me stepwise how those boundaries get 
rendered?

Is there code inside mkgmap that interprets such directives and applies tags to 
the outer ways of relations? If there is then I assume the same can be done for 
those inners. And you would be the one who can best answer that question.

Thanks for taking the time to explain.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 5:03 PM Gerd Petermann 
mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Dave,

in the relations rule you set mkgmap:boundary_name but in the lines rule you 
don't use that.

Gerd


Von: mkgmap-dev 
mailto:mkgmap-dev-boun...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk>>
 im Auftrag von Dave Swarthout 
mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>>
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 03:18
An: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to  
display?

Hi,

I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The boundaries 
weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file modeled after 
the administrative boundary code in the default style that adds a name to 
protected areas like so:

(type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
{ apply
  {
set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' | '${name}';
  }
}

Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as: 
boundary=nature_reserve | boundary=protected_area [0x10e12 resolution 19].

This works well but the lines bounding the inner areas of these relations do 
not render. How can I make them display?

Many thanks

Dave

--
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Homer, Alaska
Chiang Mai, Thailand
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
Yes, that's confusing to me. I included those snippets to illustrate what I
am currently using — maybe you can explain to me stepwise how those
boundaries get rendered?

Is there code inside mkgmap that interprets such directives and applies
tags to the outer ways of relations? If there is then I assume the same can
be done for those inners. And you would be the one who can best answer that
question.

Thanks for taking the time to explain.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 5:03 PM Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> in the relations rule you set mkgmap:boundary_name but in the lines rule
> you don't use that.
>
> Gerd
>
> 
> Von: mkgmap-dev  im Auftrag von
> Dave Swarthout 
> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 03:18
> An: Development list for mkgmap
> Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation
> to  display?
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The
> boundaries weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file
> modeled after the administrative boundary code in the default style that
> adds a name to protected areas like so:
>
> (type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
> { apply
>   {
> set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' | '${name}';
>   }
> }
>
> Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as:
> boundary=nature_reserve | boundary=protected_area [0x10e12 resolution 19].
>
> This works well but the lines bounding the inner areas of these relations
> do not render. How can I make them display?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Dave
>
> --
> Dave Swarthout
> Homer, Alaska
> Chiang Mai, Thailand
> Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
>


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Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-08 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi Dave,

in the relations rule you set mkgmap:boundary_name but in the lines rule you 
don't use that.

Gerd


Von: mkgmap-dev  im Auftrag von Dave 
Swarthout 
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Dezember 2018 03:18
An: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to  
display?

Hi,

I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The boundaries 
weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file modeled after 
the administrative boundary code in the default style that adds a name to 
protected areas like so:

(type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
{ apply
  {
set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' | '${name}';
  }
}

Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as: 
boundary=nature_reserve | boundary=protected_area [0x10e12 resolution 19].

This works well but the lines bounding the inner areas of these relations do 
not render. How can I make them display?

Many thanks

Dave

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-07 Thread Dave Swarthout
Greg,

I do use a fill. It isn't a solid color but a small letter "R" to stand for
Reserve. That does show me where the inners are in a fashion but I would
like to experiment with getting them to display with some sort of a line.

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 10:54 AM Greg Troxel  wrote:

>
> Dave Swarthout  writes:
>
> > I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The
> > boundaries weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file
> > modeled after the administrative boundary code in the default style that
> > adds a name to protected areas like so:
> >
> > (type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
> > { apply
> >   {
> > set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' |
> '${name}';
> >   }
> > }
> >
> > Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as:
> > boundary=nature_reserve
> > | boundary=protected_area [0x10e12 resolution 19].
> >
> > This works well but the lines bounding the inner areas of these relations
> > do not render. How can I make them display?
>
> Not what you asked, but I reject the notion that because the tag is
> "boundary=protected_area" that what should be rendered is a line on the
> boundary, rather than an area.  I view this tag as denoting something
> about the area within the polygon -- basically landuse=conservation
> and/or leisure=nature_reserve.
>
> So I would treat these boundary tags as being about the area and use a
> green fill, and not focus so much on the boundary proper.
>
> I realize that mine is not a universally-held view :-)
>


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Re: [mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-07 Thread Greg Troxel


Dave Swarthout  writes:

> I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The
> boundaries weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file
> modeled after the administrative boundary code in the default style that
> adds a name to protected areas like so:
>
> (type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
> { apply
>   {
> set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' | '${name}';
>   }
> }
>
> Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as:
> boundary=nature_reserve
> | boundary=protected_area [0x10e12 resolution 19].
>
> This works well but the lines bounding the inner areas of these relations
> do not render. How can I make them display?

Not what you asked, but I reject the notion that because the tag is
"boundary=protected_area" that what should be rendered is a line on the
boundary, rather than an area.  I view this tag as denoting something
about the area within the polygon -- basically landuse=conservation
and/or leisure=nature_reserve.

So I would treat these boundary tags as being about the area and use a
green fill, and not focus so much on the boundary proper.

I realize that mine is not a universally-held view :-)
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[mkgmap-dev] How can I force the inners of a boundary relation to display?

2018-12-07 Thread Dave Swarthout
Hi,

I've been adding large Alaskan National Wildlife Refuges to OSM. The
boundaries weren't displaying so I added a directive in my relations file
modeled after the administrative boundary code in the default style that
adds a name to protected areas like so:

(type=boundary | type=multipolygon) & boundary=protected_area & name=*
{ apply
  {
set mkgmap:boundary_name='$(mkgmap:boundary_name)/${name}' | '${name}';
  }
}

Then in my lines file I included a line style defined as:
boundary=nature_reserve
| boundary=protected_area [0x10e12 resolution 19].

This works well but the lines bounding the inner areas of these relations
do not render. How can I make them display?

Many thanks

Dave

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