[mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Arndt]

Hello experts,
 
there are many POIs like barrier, traffic lights, trees an so on. Is it possible
to show them in the map, but without a hit in the poi-search?
 
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Bernd Weigelt]

Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2015, 08:46:36 schrieb Arndt:
Hi Arndt

you can use these types 0x2900-?, they are visible in 'all POIs', but not in 
other categories

We, Franco and i, made a lot of tests to make sure how POIs types are sorted 
by the garmin devices.

Bernd


> Hello experts,
> 
> there are many POIs like barrier, traffic lights, trees an so on. Is it
> possible to show them in the map, but without a hit in the poi-search?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Arndt

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Bernd Weigelt]

Sorry, clicked to fast

The customs types, 0x011500-0x01161f, are not shown on my Oregon, searchable 
only over a complete search.

Bernd


Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2015, 09:36:02 schrieb Bernd Weigelt:
> Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2015, 08:46:36 schrieb Arndt:
> Hi Arndt
> 
> you can use these types 0x2900-?, they are visible in 'all POIs', but not in
> other categories
> 
> We, Franco and i, made a lot of tests to make sure how POIs types are sorted
> by the garmin devices.
> 
> Bernd
> 
> > Hello experts,
> > 
> > there are many POIs like barrier, traffic lights, trees an so on. Is it
> > possible to show them in the map, but without a hit in the poi-search?
> > 
> > Best regards
> > 
> > Arndt

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[arndt]

Thanks,
is it possibel too, that the POIs  NOT visible in AllPois?

Arndt

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Bernd Weigelt 
 Datum:05.06.2015  09:36  (GMT+01:00) 
An: Arndt , Development list for mkgmap 
 Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs 
without POI-search 
Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2015, 08:46:36 schrieb Arndt:
Hi Arndt

you can use these types 0x2900-?, they are visible in 'all POIs', but not in 
other categories

We, Franco and i, made a lot of tests to make sure how POIs types are sorted 
by the garmin devices.

Bernd


> Hello experts,
> 
> there are many POIs like barrier, traffic lights, trees an so on. Is it
> possible to show them in the map, but without a hit in the poi-search?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Arndt

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Gerd Petermann]

Hi Arndt,

AFAIK it depends on the Garmin device. Some show only indexed POI,
others show all. I think that makes sense, a Point Of Interest must be
something that you want to be able to find ;-)

Gerd

Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:59:02 +0200
From: ar...@speichenkarte.de
To: weigelt.be...@web.de; mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

Thanks,is it possibel too, that the POIs  NOT visible in AllPois?
Arndt

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Bernd Weigelt  Datum:05.06.2015  
09:36  (GMT+01:00) An: Arndt , Development list for mkgmap  Betreff: Re: 
[mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search 
Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2015, 08:46:36 schrieb Arndt:
Hi Arndt

you can use these types 0x2900-?, they are visible in 'all POIs', but not in 
other categories

We, Franco and i, made a lot of tests to make sure how POIs types are sorted 
by the garmin devices.

Bernd


> Hello experts,
> 
> there are many POIs like barrier, traffic lights, trees an so on. Is it
> possible to show them in the map, but without a hit in the poi-search?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Arndt

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Bernd Weigelt]

Hi

POIs on Garmin sdevices are really complicate things.
To get them on the display is simplier as to remove them from the POI-list or 
sort them in the right cat

there are some groups invisible if there is no such POI in the OSM-data.

#  additional Cat Convenience before Florist, use with care ## ok
# [0x2e0e resolution 24]

but it is also possible that a POI is in more then one group, 

# Convenience # Bedarfsartikel
shop=convenience[0x2e06 resolution 24]

is also below Fuel/Convenience

But IMHO it is impossible to remove a POI completly from lists without side 
effects.

Please take a look to my inc/points, maybe it helps you

Bernd


Am Freitag, 5. Juni 2015, 10:27:06 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
> Hi Arndt,
> 
> AFAIK it depends on the Garmin device. Some show only indexed POI,
> others show all. I think that makes sense, a Point Of Interest must be
> something that you want to be able to find ;-)
> 
> Gerd
> 
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:59:02 +0200
> From: ar...@speichenkarte.de
> To: weigelt.be...@web.de; mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search
> 
> Thanks,is it possibel too, that the POIs  NOT visible in AllPois?
> Arndt
> 
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Bernd Weigelt 
> Datum:05.06.2015  09:36  (GMT+01:00) An: Arndt , Development list for
> mkgmap  Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search Am Freitag, 5.
> Juni 2015, 08:46:36 schrieb Arndt:
> Hi Arndt
> 
> you can use these types 0x2900-?, they are visible in 'all POIs', but not in
> other categories
> 
> We, Franco and i, made a lot of tests to make sure how POIs types are sorted
> by the garmin devices.
> 
> Bernd
> 
> > Hello experts,
> > 
> > there are many POIs like barrier, traffic lights, trees an so on. Is it
> > possible to show them in the map, but without a hit in the poi-search?
> > 
> > Best regards
> > 
> > Arndt

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[nwillink]

I've been able to find out which POIs on my Oregon 450 and 600 are searchable
and which are not using the following method:

1) Create a 'fictitious' mp file with POIs ranging from say 2a00 to 7F00 and
an another one from 11500 to 14400
2) Use the type number as labels

3) Have the coordinates fairly close together so it can be scanned easily in
Basecamp etc as well.

4) use mkgmap to parse the files and dump on device.

You will notice the search differences between your device and say Basecamp
You will also discover  new search categories, ie Book Store.
You also discover which types as yet not used by Garmin



 



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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Gerd Petermann]

Hi Nick,

I think we should add such a file to the mkgmap dist.
Would you mind to post a link to yours?

Gerd

> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:19:07 -0700
> From: o...@pinns.co.uk
> To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search
> 
> I've been able to find out which POIs on my Oregon 450 and 600 are searchable
> and which are not using the following method:
> 
> 1) Create a 'fictitious' mp file with POIs ranging from say 2a00 to 7F00 and
> an another one from 11500 to 14400
> 2) Use the type number as labels
> 
> 3) Have the coordinates fairly close together so it can be scanned easily in
> Basecamp etc as well.
> 
> 4) use mkgmap to parse the files and dump on device.
> 
> You will notice the search differences between your device and say Basecamp
> You will also discover  new search categories, ie Book Store.
> You also discover which types as yet not used by Garmin
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[nwillink]

Hi Gerd

Will do this gladly. 
Will have to extract the code from another program and create a separate GUI
so the user can specify the range - should be ready tomorrow.

r

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Henning Scholland]

Hi,

I think best would be to add the compiled map for device and BaseCamp.
Compile-process should stay the same.
Would be very appreciated!

Henning

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[GerdP]

Hi Henning,

I just learned (again) that mkgmap has a feature to create a map, at a first
glance
the result looks similar to that of the map generated by Nick:

java -jar mkgmap test-map:all-elements creates it.

With r3612 I see some warnings
SCHWERWIEGEND (ShapeMergeFilter): test-map:all-elements: shape is not closed
with identical points 0

I'll fix this soon.

Gerd

osm-8 wrote
> Hi,
> 
> I think best would be to add the compiled map for device and BaseCamp.
> Compile-process should stay the same.
> Would be very appreciated!
> 
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[Henning Scholland]

Hi Gerd,
so test-map:all-elements did the same as POI-tester? Do you know the
range of the generated POIs? Or is the range based on style?

Henning

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] POIs without POI-search

[GerdP]

Hi Henning,

I am just looking at the code. 
Up to now it generates POI from 0x00 to 0x7f  with subtypes from 00 to 30,
and also some lines and shapes.
I think it should be easy to add some options to generate extended type POI
as well.
See also the comments in the source code:
http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=mkgmap&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fsrc%2Fuk%2Fme%2Fparabola%2Fmkgmap%2Freader%2Ftest%2FAllElements.java&rev=3613&peg=3613

  

Gerd


osm-8 wrote
> Hi Gerd,
> so test-map:all-elements did the same as POI-tester? Do you know the
> range of the generated POIs? Or is the range based on style?
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