Re: [mkgmap-dev] dent in street and bounds problem

2010-02-15 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Felix Hartmann schrieb am 14.02.2010 21:10:
 That is a bug in Mapsource and won't get solved. Use Mapsource 6.13.6 
 (for x64 systems) or Mapsource 6.13.7 for x32 system.

This might help, I am using a 6.11 version of Mapsource. Unfortunately my Nuevi
displays it in the same way

Gruss
Torsten
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] dent in street and bounds problem

2010-02-15 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Mark Burton schrieb am 14.02.2010 23:15:
 How about: the RHS of the dent is S of the junction with Bruchweg
 because the small footway has been completely removed by the
 remove-short-arcs option and so the node at the N end of that footway
 has been merged into the node at the S end of the footway which is why
 the way ends up kinked to the S.

I haven't noticed this, but your right: The footway is misisng in the garmin 
map.

But is this not a much bigger problem? Now in the Garmin map two roads are
connected, which are not connected in the OSM data. I think the
remove-short-arcs option mustn't remove complete elements, because the routing
is now broken.
And such a case is not so exceptional: Here it is quite common, that an end of a
road is closed for vehicle traffic or declared as oneway for reducing the
traffic in residential areas.

Gruss
Torsten
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] dent in street and bounds problem

2010-02-15 Thread Mark Burton

Hello Torsten,

 Mark Burton schrieb am 14.02.2010 23:15:
  How about: the RHS of the dent is S of the junction with Bruchweg
  because the small footway has been completely removed by the
  remove-short-arcs option and so the node at the N end of that footway
  has been merged into the node at the S end of the footway which is why
  the way ends up kinked to the S.
 
 I haven't noticed this, but your right: The footway is misisng in the garmin 
 map.
 
 But is this not a much bigger problem? Now in the Garmin map two roads are
 connected, which are not connected in the OSM data. I think the
 remove-short-arcs option mustn't remove complete elements, because the routing
 is now broken.
 And such a case is not so exceptional: Here it is quite common, that an end 
 of a
 road is closed for vehicle traffic or declared as oneway for reducing the
 traffic in residential areas.

Yes, that's not ideal is it. I will add it to the list of bugs that I
need to fix.

Cheers,

Mark
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] dent in street and bounds problem

2010-02-14 Thread Mark Burton

Hello Torsten,

 2. In the attached screen shot you can see the resulting map created by the
 attached OSM-file. If you zoom in very closely, there is a dent in the 
 secondary
 road. If I open the OSM-file in JOSM, there is no such dent visible. Is this a
 data resolution problem of the Garmin format?

Yes, as the Garmin map resolution is approx 2.2m, it is understandable
for your road to have those dents.

Cheers,

Mark
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] dent in street and bounds problem

2010-02-14 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Mark Burton schrieb am 14.02.2010 20:05:
 Yes, as the Garmin map resolution is approx 2.2m, it is understandable
 for your road to have those dents.

But the offset of the points look much bigger than 2.2m. And this doesn't
explain, why the north-south ordering of the two points is in JOSM inverse to
the ordering in Mapsource or on my Nuevi.

Gruss
Torsten
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] dent in street and bounds problem

2010-02-14 Thread Felix Hartmann


On 14.02.2010 20:53, Torsten Leistikow wrote:
 Mark Burton schrieb am 14.02.2010 20:05:

 Yes, as the Garmin map resolution is approx 2.2m, it is understandable
 for your road to have those dents.
  
 But the offset of the points look much bigger than 2.2m. And this doesn't
 explain, why the north-south ordering of the two points is in JOSM inverse to
 the ordering in Mapsource or on my Nuevi.


That is a bug in Mapsource and won't get solved. Use Mapsource 6.13.6 
(for x64 systems) or Mapsource 6.13.7 for x32 system.
 Gruss
 Torsten
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] dent in street and bounds problem

2010-02-14 Thread Mark Burton

Hello Torsten,

 Mark Burton schrieb am 14.02.2010 20:05:
  Yes, as the Garmin map resolution is approx 2.2m, it is understandable
  for your road to have those dents.
 
 But the offset of the points look much bigger than 2.2m. And this doesn't
 explain, why the north-south ordering of the two points is in JOSM inverse to
 the ordering in Mapsource or on my Nuevi.

How about: the RHS of the dent is S of the junction with Bruchweg
because the small footway has been completely removed by the
remove-short-arcs option and so the node at the N end of that footway
has been merged into the node at the S end of the footway which is why
the way ends up kinked to the S.

Mark


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