Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-15 Thread Rich
On 03/15/11 18:56, Michał Rogala wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I've just downloaded r1894 ( I've used some older release until today
> - i don't know which one). Recent changes in charsets broke CP1250 -
> instead of diacritic letters from polish language i get characters
> like dashes, pound symbols, etc.

as was noted on the list, in latest versions of mkgmap codepage options 
should be used (probably :) )
have you tried that ?

> best regards
> Michal Rogala
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-15 Thread Michał Rogala
2011/3/15 Rich :
> On 03/15/11 18:56, Michał Rogala wrote:

> as was noted on the list, in latest versions of mkgmap codepage options
> should be used (probably :) )
> have you tried that ?

I use:

--charset=cp1250 --code-page=cp1250

r1867 works properly, r1893 doesn't

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-15 Thread Henning Scholland
You should try --code-page=1250

aighes

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread Maks Vasilev
Hi!

r1894

mkgmap parametrs: 
http://code.google.com/p/velo100mapper/source/browse/trunk/makemap.basic

All text in map have broken charset.

wbr,
Maks

В сообщении от 15 марта 2011 19:56:44 автор Michał Rogala написал:
> Hello!
> 
> I've just downloaded r1894 ( I've used some older release until today
> - i don't know which one). Recent changes in charsets broke CP1250 -
> instead of diacritic letters from polish language i get characters
> like dashes, pound symbols, etc.
> 
> best regards
> Michal Rogala
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread Henning Scholland
Am 18.03.2011 16:28, schrieb Maks Vasilev:
> Hi!
>
> r1894
>
> mkgmap parametrs:
> http://code.google.com/p/velo100mapper/source/browse/trunk/makemap.basic
>
> All text in map have broken charset.
As written above:
You should use --code-page=1250 instead of --charset=cp1250. As I 
remember also --lower-case shouldn't be used.

Henning

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread WanMil
Should we print out a warning if someone still uses the options charset 
and/or lower-case? Or should we remove these options?
This seems to be a common pitfall since the index branch has been merged.

WanMil

Am 18.03.2011 16:47, schrieb Henning Scholland:
> Am 18.03.2011 16:28, schrieb Maks Vasilev:
>> Hi!
>>
>> r1894
>>
>> mkgmap parametrs:
>> http://code.google.com/p/velo100mapper/source/browse/trunk/makemap.basic
>>
>> All text in map have broken charset.
> As written above:
> You should use --code-page=1250 instead of --charset=cp1250. As I
> remember also --lower-case shouldn't be used.
>
> Henning
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 18.03.2011 19:29, WanMil wrote:
> Should we print out a warning if someone still uses the options charset
> and/or lower-case? Or should we remove these options?
> This seems to be a common pitfall since the index branch has been merged.
>
> WanMil
>
> Am 18.03.2011 16:47, schrieb Henning Scholland:
>
that would probably be good. As well as removing lower-case as it does 
not work anyhow... (or noone could yet report it working).
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread Rich
On 03/18/11 20:42, Felix Hartmann wrote:
> On 18.03.2011 19:29, WanMil wrote:
>> Should we print out a warning if someone still uses the options charset
>> and/or lower-case? Or should we remove these options?
>> This seems to be a common pitfall since the index branch has been merged.
>>
>> WanMil
>>
>> Am 18.03.2011 16:47, schrieb Henning Scholland:
>>
> that would probably be good. As well as removing lower-case as it does
> not work anyhow... (or noone could yet report it working).

lowercase works on etrex vista hcx for non-rotated text (so most labels 
and popups), doesn't work in rotated text) street labels

note that it's just lowercase, not lowercase+diacritic (still haven't 
coerced the unit to display them properly. got a seriously messed up 
answer from garmin. considering writing a rant for /. )
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 18.03.2011 20:15, Rich wrote:
> On 03/18/11 20:42, Felix Hartmann wrote:
>> On 18.03.2011 19:29, WanMil wrote:
>>> Should we print out a warning if someone still uses the options charset
>>> and/or lower-case? Or should we remove these options?
>>> This seems to be a common pitfall since the index branch has been 
>>> merged.
>>>
>>> WanMil
>>>
>>> Am 18.03.2011 16:47, schrieb Henning Scholland:
>>>
>> that would probably be good. As well as removing lower-case as it does
>> not work anyhow... (or noone could yet report it working).
>
> lowercase works on etrex vista hcx for non-rotated text (so most 
> labels and popups), doesn't work in rotated text) street labels
>
> note that it's just lowercase, not lowercase+diacritic (still haven't 
> coerced the unit to display them properly. got a seriously messed up 
> answer from garmin. considering writing a rant for /. )
Well then maybe it should be changed to not be used for street labels - 
not seen a single gps that supports it for street labels.
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread Rich
On 03/18/11 21:21, Felix Hartmann wrote:
> On 18.03.2011 20:15, Rich wrote:
>> On 03/18/11 20:42, Felix Hartmann wrote:
>>> On 18.03.2011 19:29, WanMil wrote:
 Should we print out a warning if someone still uses the options charset
 and/or lower-case? Or should we remove these options?
 This seems to be a common pitfall since the index branch has been
 merged.

 WanMil

 Am 18.03.2011 16:47, schrieb Henning Scholland:

>>> that would probably be good. As well as removing lower-case as it does
>>> not work anyhow... (or noone could yet report it working).
>>
>> lowercase works on etrex vista hcx for non-rotated text (so most
>> labels and popups), doesn't work in rotated text) street labels
>>
>> note that it's just lowercase, not lowercase+diacritic (still haven't
>> coerced the unit to display them properly. got a seriously messed up
>> answer from garmin. considering writing a rant for /. )
> Well then maybe it should be changed to not be used for street labels -
> not seen a single gps that supports it for street labels.

i'd suggest either leaving as is, or adding another option to skip it 
for street labels - when new units/firmware comes out, it might be 
useful to try whether they finally have decided to fix it
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-18 Thread Michał Rogala
Hi!

Replacing cp1250 with 1250 doesn't work - still the same problem.

best regards

Michal Rogala
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-19 Thread Tomas Straupis
>> note that it's just lowercase, not lowercase+diacritic (still haven't
>> coerced the unit to display them properly. got a seriously messed up
>> answer from garmin. considering writing a rant for /. )
> Well then maybe it should be changed to not be used for street labels -
> not seen a single gps that supports it for street labels.

  Lower-case letters with Lithuanian characters do work on streets on Colorado.

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-19 Thread Steve Ratcliffe
WanMil  wrote:

>Should we print out a warning if someone still uses the options charset
>
>and/or lower-case? Or should we remove these options?
>This seems to be a common pitfall since the index branch has been
>merged.
>
I agree, and go further, I would like to through every option including the 
ones that Felix mentions from time and ask if it should exist, if the default 
should change or if it should be combined with others.

Running mkgmap without any options at all should produce a reasonable map in 
most cases with options being for tweeks, adding information or dealing with 
difficult data

..Steve 
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-19 Thread Johann Gail


Am 19.03.2011 13:36, schrieb Steve Ratcliffe:
>> Should we print out a warning if someone still uses the options charset
>>
>> and/or lower-case? Or should we remove these options?
>> This seems to be a common pitfall since the index branch has been
>> merged.
>>
> I agree, and go further, I would like to through every option including the 
> ones that Felix mentions from time and ask if it should exist, if the default 
> should change or if it should be combined with others.
>
> Running mkgmap without any options at all should produce a reasonable map in 
> most cases with options being for tweeks, adding information or dealing with 
> difficult data
>
>
As this themes are discussed now at the mailing list, I have another 
suggestion with the options.

I would like the options beeing embedded in the options file in the 
styles. There they belongs to. Then it would be possible to set e.g. the 
dpfilter settings and the min polygon size for a cycle map to other 
values than for a street map. In the default style could reasonable 
default settings be set.

Regards,
Johann
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-24 Thread Michał Rogala
Hi!

Do you have any clue what has changed between latest versions that
1250 code-page doesn't work? I've tried the latest release and still
the same problem.

best regards

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-24 Thread Steve Ratcliffe

Hello

> Do you have any clue what has changed between latest versions that
> 1250 code-page doesn't work? I've tried the latest release and still
> the same problem.

Are you using --code-page=1250 ?

Do not use --charset at all.

If you are doing that, then please upload a tile that doesn't work
(you can use http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/)

I don't see any difference in the label encoding between the two 
versions. I don't have the 1250 character set, so I don't see
the proper characters, but that's what I would expect.

Thanks

..Steve

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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-24 Thread Michał Rogala
Thanks, without --charset everything works great!.

I have just one more question - without --charset parameter - default
is latin1. With latin1 all street names are lowercase but with
--code-page=1250 all names are uppercase (in MapSource). Why there is
such difference?

best regards

Michal Rogala

2011/3/24 Steve Ratcliffe :
>
> Hello
>
>> Do you have any clue what has changed between latest versions that
>> 1250 code-page doesn't work? I've tried the latest release and still
>> the same problem.
>
> Are you using --code-page=1250 ?
>
> Do not use --charset at all.
>
> If you are doing that, then please upload a tile that doesn't work
> (you can use http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/)
>
> I don't see any difference in the label encoding between the two
> versions. I don't have the 1250 character set, so I don't see
> the proper characters, but that's what I would expect.
>
> Thanks
>
> ..Steve
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Re: [mkgmap-dev] broken charset in latest mkgmap

2011-03-24 Thread Steve Ratcliffe

Hi

> I have just one more question - without --charset parameter - default
> is latin1. With latin1 all street names are lowercase but with
> --code-page=1250 all names are uppercase (in MapSource). Why there is
> such difference?

I don't know.  Are you using --lower-case? If so, don't :)

If you are not, then it must be something to do with mapsource unless
I'm missing something.

The --lower-case option was added just to show that it doesn't work!
As such no work has been done on it to deal with different character
sets and I have no idea what will happen in any particular case
without looking at the code.

..Steve
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