Re: [WikimediaMobile] Did something change about prefix search today?
I'd check with Chad and Nick handling todays CirrusSearch deployment. --tomasz On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here's what searching for fish returned yesterday: And here's what I get today: ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Did something change about prefix search today?
I spoke with Chad about it and he's confirmed the issue and is going to discuss with Nick and get back to me. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'd check with Chad and Nick handling todays CirrusSearch deployment. --tomasz On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here's what searching for fish returned yesterday: And here's what I get today: ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Did something change about prefix search today?
Do we have a bug to track whatever the issue might be ? On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: I spoke with Chad about it and he's confirmed the issue and is going to discuss with Nick and get back to me. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'd check with Chad and Nick handling todays CirrusSearch deployment. --tomasz On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here's what searching for fish returned yesterday: And here's what I get today: ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Did something change about prefix search today?
Not yet. Will file one once I have a bit more info about what the issue is. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Do we have a bug to track whatever the issue might be ? On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: I spoke with Chad about it and he's confirmed the issue and is going to discuss with Nick and get back to me. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'd check with Chad and Nick handling todays CirrusSearch deployment. --tomasz On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here's what searching for fish returned yesterday: And here's what I get today: ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Did something change about prefix search today?
Monte, The screenshots show title search (prefixsearch). I'm suprised that prefixsearch would be affected by any full text search ( CirrusSearch/ElasticSearch) changes. I thought those would be independent systems. -Bernd On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Not yet. Will file one once I have a bit more info about what the issue is. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Do we have a bug to track whatever the issue might be ? On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: I spoke with Chad about it and he's confirmed the issue and is going to discuss with Nick and get back to me. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'd check with Chad and Nick handling todays CirrusSearch deployment. --tomasz On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here's what searching for fish returned yesterday: And here's what I get today: ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Did something change about prefix search today?
Confirmed with Chad that it's related to the Cirrus Search update that just went live. I asked him if he wanted me to open and bug and he said he will - he's still investigating. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Bernd Sitzmann bsitzm...@wikimedia.org wrote: Monte, The screenshots show title search (prefixsearch). I'm suprised that prefixsearch would be affected by any full text search ( CirrusSearch/ElasticSearch) changes. I thought those would be independent systems. -Bernd On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Not yet. Will file one once I have a bit more info about what the issue is. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Do we have a bug to track whatever the issue might be ? On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: I spoke with Chad about it and he's confirmed the issue and is going to discuss with Nick and get back to me. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'd check with Chad and Nick handling todays CirrusSearch deployment. --tomasz On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here's what searching for fish returned yesterday: And here's what I get today: ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Did something change about prefix search today?
Note also the bug that I filed today: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73623 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Confirmed with Chad that it's related to the Cirrus Search update that just went live. I asked him if he wanted me to open and bug and he said he will - he's still investigating. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Bernd Sitzmann bsitzm...@wikimedia.org wrote: Monte, The screenshots show title search (prefixsearch). I'm suprised that prefixsearch would be affected by any full text search ( CirrusSearch/ElasticSearch) changes. I thought those would be independent systems. -Bernd On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Not yet. Will file one once I have a bit more info about what the issue is. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Do we have a bug to track whatever the issue might be ? On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: I spoke with Chad about it and he's confirmed the issue and is going to discuss with Nick and get back to me. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'd check with Chad and Nick handling todays CirrusSearch deployment. --tomasz On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here's what searching for fish returned yesterday: And here's what I get today: ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
[WikimediaMobile] Update on ResourceLoader-constrained UAs
Hi there - A lot of people on Wikipedia Zero use browsers (User Agents, or UAs for short) incompatible with site JavaScript [1]. We want to ensure that critical functionality is basically functional for these people, and we've been tracking findings at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Lower_end_devices_checkup. Thus far, we've re-reviewed Search [2] and Login/Account Creation [3], and we'll be going over the other ones over the next several sprints. I just added some screenshots from Opera Mini to the two Trello cards below. To replicate Opera Mini behavior for oneself, if you don't already have it, you can install Opera Mini on a device like an Android or iOS device. Then set the app's mode to Opera Mini mode. Depending on your OS, you may or may not need to toggle this Opera Mini setting; it might be on by default. You can also use the emulator as described on the Wikipedia Zero tech page [4]. -Adam [1] https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/09c55592a73544cc21e002f229686d17806686ba/resources%2Fsrc%2Fstartup.js#L40 This shows JavaScript UAs for which it's known that the JavaScript capabilities are likely insufficient for a number of JavaScript features, and thus the ResourceLoader technology instructs the UA to not commence with further JavaScript loading. There are also other UAs with no JavaScript support or with broken JavaScript implementations. [2] https://trello.com/c/blWoHdk8/1-improve-special-search-for-lower-end-device-users Incidentally, there's currently a regression making it impossible to enter searches, at least on the Android and iOS Opera Mini clients I tested. [3] https://trello.com/c/0kKBcmoD/2-improve-login-and-account-creation-experience-for-lower-end-device-users Note: On non-HTML5 browsers, the placeholder attribute is not supported. [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero#Tools ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Update on ResourceLoader-constrained UAs
Thanks for this Adam. A few questions. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi there - A lot of people on Wikipedia Zero use browsers (User Agents, or UAs for short) incompatible with site JavaScript [1]. We want to ensure that critical functionality is basically functional for these people, and we've been tracking findings at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Lower_end_devices_checkup. Thus far, we've re-reviewed Search [2] and Login/Account Creation [3], and we'll be going over the other ones over the next several sprints. I just added some screenshots from Opera Mini to the two Trello cards below. To replicate Opera Mini behavior for oneself, if you don't already have it, you can install Opera Mini on a device like an Android or iOS device. Then set the app's mode to Opera Mini mode. Depending on your OS, you may or may not need to toggle this Opera Mini setting; it might be on by default. You can also use the emulator as described on the Wikipedia Zero tech page [4]. -Adam [1] https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/09c55592a73544cc21e002f229686d17806686ba/resources%2Fsrc%2Fstartup.js#L40 This shows JavaScript UAs for which it's known that the JavaScript capabilities are likely insufficient for a number of JavaScript features, and thus the ResourceLoader technology instructs the UA to not commence with further JavaScript loading. There are also other UAs with no JavaScript support or with broken JavaScript implementations. [2] https://trello.com/c/blWoHdk8/1-improve-special-search-for-lower-end-device-users Incidentally, there's currently a regression making it impossible to enter searches, at least on the Android and iOS Opera Mini clients I tested. Please can you track this regression on bugzilla with replication instructions? I haven't heard about this bug and it sounds like something that could easily be taken care of. A trello card seems overkill. [3] https://trello.com/c/0kKBcmoD/2-improve-login-and-account-creation-experience-for-lower-end-device-users Note: On non-HTML5 browsers, the placeholder attribute is not supported. [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero#Tools Yeh there is a bug [1] and it's fixed in alpha. We'll have to find a way of accelerating the alpha login form into stable for opera mini users as unfortunately we hit some unexpected roadblocks around the login form. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68758 ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Update on ResourceLoader-constrained UAs
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks for this Adam. A few questions. ... https://trello.com/c/blWoHdk8/1-improve-special-search-for-lower-end-device-users Incidentally, there's currently a regression making it impossible to enter searches, at least on the Android and iOS Opera Mini clients I tested. Please can you track this regression on bugzilla with replication instructions? I haven't heard about this bug and it sounds like something that could easily be taken care of. A trello card seems overkill. Done. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73632 The Trello card is more focused on visible outlining of the search input field should the device width exceed the CSS min width, and what to do when the magnifying glass is tapped but no results are turned up (e.g., unintentional or mistyped search). https://trello.com/c/0kKBcmoD/2-improve-login-and-account-creation-experience-for-lower-end-device-users Note: On non-HTML5 browsers, the placeholder attribute is not supported. [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero#Tools Yeh there is a bug [1] and it's fixed in alpha. We'll have to find a way of accelerating the alpha login form into stable for opera mini users as unfortunately we hit some unexpected roadblocks around the login form. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68758 Please do let me know if/how I can assist. If the roadblock is expected to persist, I would like to get in some sort of interim fix at least. Thanks! -Adam ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
