Re: [WikimediaMobile] Gather - owner
I'm guessing it's one of these: alex@alex-laptop:~/Development/MediaWiki/extensions/Gather (master)$ grep -i owner i18n/en.json "gather-lists-collection-owner": "Owner", "apihelp-gather-param-owner": "Owner of the collections to search for. If omitted, defaults to current user.", alex@alex-laptop:~/Development/MediaWiki/extensions/Gather (master)$ grep gather-lists-collection-owner includes/* -R includes/specials/SpecialGatherLists.php: . Html::element( 'span', array(), wfMessage( 'gather-lists-collection-owner' ) ) So I'm guessing this is at https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GatherLists - the first column shows as "Owner" in English. It also shows up in the API. On 30 March 2015 at 05:53, Jon Katz wrote: > Hi Amir, > I want to help on this, but am not sure where this shows up. Can you refer > us to where in the interface owner appears? > Thanks, > J > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am translating Gather, and I feel very uncomfortable about the term >> "Owner". >> >> It's challenging to translate, because in the languages I care about - >> Hebrew and Russian - it requires gender. Now gender can be added without >> too much technical effort, but there's still the general feeling of >> discomfort - "owner" is a strong word in the Wikimedia world, which should >> usually be avoided without a good reason. >> >> Was this word chosen intentionally, to show that lists are, in fact, >> owned, and privately curated? >> >> Maybe it could be changed to something like "maintainer", "curator" or >> something else? Or simply "User"? >> >> -- >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >> “We're living in pieces, >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore >> >> ___ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> > > ___ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] Gather - owner
Hi Amir, I want to help on this, but am not sure where this shows up. Can you refer us to where in the interface owner appears? Thanks, J On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > Hi, > > I am translating Gather, and I feel very uncomfortable about the term > "Owner". > > It's challenging to translate, because in the languages I care about - > Hebrew and Russian - it requires gender. Now gender can be added without > too much technical effort, but there's still the general feeling of > discomfort - "owner" is a strong word in the Wikimedia world, which should > usually be avoided without a good reason. > > Was this word chosen intentionally, to show that lists are, in fact, > owned, and privately curated? > > Maybe it could be changed to something like "maintainer", "curator" or > something else? Or simply "User"? > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > “We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore > > ___ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
[WikimediaMobile] Gather - owner
Hi, I am translating Gather, and I feel very uncomfortable about the term "Owner". It's challenging to translate, because in the languages I care about - Hebrew and Russian - it requires gender. Now gender can be added without too much technical effort, but there's still the general feeling of discomfort - "owner" is a strong word in the Wikimedia world, which should usually be avoided without a good reason. Was this word chosen intentionally, to show that lists are, in fact, owned, and privately curated? Maybe it could be changed to something like "maintainer", "curator" or something else? Or simply "User"? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Encouraging Wikipedia/Commons contributions (was: Wikidata descriptions)
[ Resending - the previous email had too many silly syntax mistakes. Am I a Wikipedian or not? Sorry about the spam :) ] > We've considered such problems at great length, and so far never actually managed to succeed at drawing people in to editing on mobile devices. I'd really love to know more details about this. Most of all: Did you consider getting new people to contribute on mobile, or did you consider getting experienced desktop contributors to contribute also on mobile? These are separate things. My intuition tells me that the second is much easier to do than the first, though this will probably require talking to experienced editors and asking them what changes do they need to make it easier to do it. And in general, can you write more details about what you considered and tried till now? I know that I make edits on mobile web and apps occasionally[1][2][3], and I see the "Mobile" tag every day in recent changes and watchlist, but I don't know the actual numbers. I supposed that there is some data, but I couldn't find any on mediawiki.org easily. For example * What's the number of mobile edits? * What's the number of mobile edits per namespace? (I was surprised at the number of mobile edits that I made to talk pages, given that the classic talk pages [unlike Flow] work so horribly on mobile.) * What's the number of mobile edits by anons? * What's the number of people who start editing and don't save? It would be nice to read about all of the above broken down to web and the two apps (the two big apps are quite different). (Finally, when you say "we", do you mean Apps, or all the mobile developers?) == Footnotes == [1] Flow works very well on Mobile web, and I made a lot of Flow edits, but unfortunately they aren't tagged: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93431 [2] Hebrew: https://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%95%D7%97%D7%93%3A%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%AA&contribs=user&target=Amire80&namespace=&tagfilter=mobile+edit&year=2015&month=-1 [3] English: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=Mobileedit&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Amire80&namespace=&tagfilter=mobile+edit&year=2015&month=-1 ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
