[WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Adam Baso
Cross posting to mobile-l.

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From: Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM
Subject: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes
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Hi all,

James Forrester, Florian, and I met Wednesday, 22-July-2015 to discuss the
Editing roadmap, with the backdrop of editing modes available in mobile web
and apps but both the mobile web and apps teams now being in the Reading
department. Notes:

* FY 2015-2016: active Editing development for apps not planned

* General plan is to replace the current mobile web editing experiences
with new (replacement) VE and wikitext editor maintained by the VE team for
mobile web

* Q1: VE mobile prototyping (doesn't require Reading involvement)

* Q2: Editing for mobile web replacement *coding* starting, but rollout on
mobile web would begin in some future quarter _after_ Q2

* Feature submission practices for volunteers submitting editing related
stuff for the mobile web for the time being (feature submissions
discouraged for now as it will end up being replaced; mainline VisualEditor
/ next gen wikitext editing in collaboration with VE team would probably
make more sense) -

** Create task in reading-web Phabricator board and indicate the details of
what you were thinking to work on and roughly when. Add James Forrester and
Joaquin Hernandez to card.

** Reach out to James_F (Senior Product Manager, VisualEditor) and joakino
(Reading Web engineering product owner and tech lead) on #wikimedia-mobile
on Freenode to discuss the idea and to determine who would need to code
review and test

* Code review for bugfixes for the existing mobile editing code should be
done by Reading Web, and code review plus testing should be done by Editing
as well. Ping joakino and James_F on IRC to figure out who to add to
bugfixes.

* As the Editing team gets into the practice of submitting patches for
MobileFrontend to swap out the editor, as usual, tasks should be filed well
ahead of time in the reading-web Phabricator board so there's a heads up
about potential code review. Also, Editing and Reading should be tracking
Q2 and subsequent quarter planning together to ensure dependencies are
clearly defined and agreed upon.

I also spoke to Roan from Collaboration after the Scrum of Scrums the same
day. Roan indicated that there isn't an emphasis on rolling out Flow to
mobile Wikipedias en masse for FY 2015-2016. And generally, when Flow does
become slated for rollout on the mobile Wikipedias and sister projects in a
broader sense it shouldn't require work - or anything substantial, anyway -
from the Reading team.

-Adam
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[WikimediaMobile] Fwd: Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015

2015-07-27 Thread Tilman Bayer
Forwarding the link to the Reading team's quarterly review
documentation, as it just occurred to me that not everyone might have
caught it on the other lists.


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From: Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org
Date: Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:50 AM
Subject: Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for April-June 2015
To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org


Hi all,

the Wikimedia Foundation's quarterly reviews of teams' work in the
past quarter (April-June 2015) took place last week. Minutes and
slides for those meetings are now available:

...

Reading (formerly mobile web and apps):
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Reading,_July_2015

...

As usual, much of this information will also be available in
consolidated form as part of the general WMF quarterly report for Q4,
which is planned to be published on July 30.

--
Tilman Bayer
Senior Analyst
Wikimedia Foundation
IRC (Freenode): HaeB


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Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

2015-07-27 Thread Pine W
Adam,

I'm happy to hear that VE is coming to mobile web.

I'd like to know more about what the plans are for user testing of VE on
mobile. Would that happen in late Q2 at the earliest, and how much emphasis
will there be on user testing mobile VE while it's in beta? My prime
interest is in making sure that the transition out of beta is smooth and
that end users have a good experience with mobile VE from the moment that
it leaves beta.

Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 27, 2015 10:12 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Cross posting to mobile-l.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM
 Subject: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes
 To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org


 Hi all,

 James Forrester, Florian, and I met Wednesday, 22-July-2015 to discuss the
 Editing roadmap, with the backdrop of editing modes available in mobile web
 and apps but both the mobile web and apps teams now being in the Reading
 department. Notes:

 * FY 2015-2016: active Editing development for apps not planned

 * General plan is to replace the current mobile web editing experiences
 with new (replacement) VE and wikitext editor maintained by the VE team for
 mobile web

 * Q1: VE mobile prototyping (doesn't require Reading involvement)

 * Q2: Editing for mobile web replacement *coding* starting, but rollout on
 mobile web would begin in some future quarter _after_ Q2

 * Feature submission practices for volunteers submitting editing related
 stuff for the mobile web for the time being (feature submissions
 discouraged for now as it will end up being replaced; mainline VisualEditor
 / next gen wikitext editing in collaboration with VE team would probably
 make more sense) -

 ** Create task in reading-web Phabricator board and indicate the details
 of what you were thinking to work on and roughly when. Add James Forrester
 and Joaquin Hernandez to card.

 ** Reach out to James_F (Senior Product Manager, VisualEditor) and joakino
 (Reading Web engineering product owner and tech lead) on #wikimedia-mobile
 on Freenode to discuss the idea and to determine who would need to code
 review and test

 * Code review for bugfixes for the existing mobile editing code should be
 done by Reading Web, and code review plus testing should be done by Editing
 as well. Ping joakino and James_F on IRC to figure out who to add to
 bugfixes.

 * As the Editing team gets into the practice of submitting patches for
 MobileFrontend to swap out the editor, as usual, tasks should be filed well
 ahead of time in the reading-web Phabricator board so there's a heads up
 about potential code review. Also, Editing and Reading should be tracking
 Q2 and subsequent quarter planning together to ensure dependencies are
 clearly defined and agreed upon.

 I also spoke to Roan from Collaboration after the Scrum of Scrums the same
 day. Roan indicated that there isn't an emphasis on rolling out Flow to
 mobile Wikipedias en masse for FY 2015-2016. And generally, when Flow does
 become slated for rollout on the mobile Wikipedias and sister projects in a
 broader sense it shouldn't require work - or anything substantial, anyway -
 from the Reading team.

 -Adam


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