Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] [reading-wmf] Wikigrok code no longer being worked on

2015-06-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen

On 06/02/2015 06:00 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez wrote:

Now there's a lot of skepticism towards the idea in any of its forms :(


I still think micro-contributions are an important future direction 
(whether or not WikiGrok is re-activated).


Given how successful the metrics were from WikiGrok, it's hard to see 
why there should be skepticism about the idea of micro-contributions.


Matt Flaschen


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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] [reading-wmf] Wikigrok code no longer being worked on

2015-06-02 Thread Jon Katz
I'm inclined to agree with Matt.  In fact (and to answer Oliver's
question), the team is already considering the next slew of
micro-contribution projects.

I think it is too early to say which projects will be next, but some ideas
include: choosing lead images, editing wikidata descriptions, and refining
categorization of topics.

Joaquin, I agree that lessons learned would be helpful.  As someone who
came to the project at the very end, I don't feel entitled to point out
things that should have been done differently.  As a member of the team
that made the decision to pause development, however, I would be happy to
help establish criteria that projects need to meet (as a minimum) in order
to see continued effort.  Given my limited bandwidth, this is not something
I can promise anytime soon and I encourage others to take a first stab.

-J


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Matthew Flaschen 
wrote:

> On 06/02/2015 06:00 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez wrote:
>
>> Now there's a lot of skepticism towards the idea in any of its forms :(
>>
>
> I still think micro-contributions are an important future direction
> (whether or not WikiGrok is re-activated).
>
> Given how successful the metrics were from WikiGrok, it's hard to see why
> there should be skepticism about the idea of micro-contributions.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] [reading-wmf] Wikigrok code no longer being worked on

2015-06-03 Thread Florian Schmidt
> the team is already considering the next slew of micro-contribution projects
> I think it is too early to say which projects will be next, but some ideas

I think, in favour of our open development strategy (I hope we still have it), 
you should try to make the process as much open as possible, including early 
involving of community (both developers and users) :) In fact: Where is the 
project page on mediawiki.org or a phabricator task where you collect, rate and 
discuss these ideas?

Best,
Florian

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
[mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Jon Katz
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Juni 2015 06:29
An: Matthew Flaschen
Cc: Wikimedia developers; mobile-l; Internal communication for WMF Reading team
Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikigrok code no 
longer being worked on

I'm inclined to agree with Matt.  In fact (and to answer Oliver's question), 
the team is already considering the next slew of micro-contribution projects.

I think it is too early to say which projects will be next, but some ideas
include: choosing lead images, editing wikidata descriptions, and refining 
categorization of topics.

Joaquin, I agree that lessons learned would be helpful.  As someone who came to 
the project at the very end, I don't feel entitled to point out things that 
should have been done differently.  As a member of the team that made the 
decision to pause development, however, I would be happy to help establish 
criteria that projects need to meet (as a minimum) in order to see continued 
effort.  Given my limited bandwidth, this is not something I can promise 
anytime soon and I encourage others to take a first stab.

-J


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Matthew Flaschen 
wrote:

> On 06/02/2015 06:00 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez wrote:
>
>> Now there's a lot of skepticism towards the idea in any of its forms 
>> :(
>>
>
> I still think micro-contributions are an important future direction 
> (whether or not WikiGrok is re-activated).
>
> Given how successful the metrics were from WikiGrok, it's hard to see 
> why there should be skepticism about the idea of micro-contributions.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] [reading-wmf] Wikigrok code no longer being worked on

2015-06-03 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 3 June 2015 at 11:34, Florian Schmidt
 wrote:
>> the team is already considering the next slew of micro-contribution projects
>> I think it is too early to say which projects will be next, but some ideas
>
> I think, in favour of our open development strategy (I hope we still have 
> it), you should try to make the process as much open as possible, including 
> early involving of community (both developers and users) :) In fact: Where is 
> the project page on mediawiki.org or a phabricator task where you collect, 
> rate and discuss these ideas?
>

A big +1 from me.

> Best,
> Florian
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
> [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Jon Katz
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Juni 2015 06:29
> An: Matthew Flaschen
> Cc: Wikimedia developers; mobile-l; Internal communication for WMF Reading 
> team
> Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Wikigrok code no 
> longer being worked on
>
> I'm inclined to agree with Matt.  In fact (and to answer Oliver's question), 
> the team is already considering the next slew of micro-contribution projects.
>
> I think it is too early to say which projects will be next, but some ideas
> include: choosing lead images, editing wikidata descriptions, and refining 
> categorization of topics.
>
> Joaquin, I agree that lessons learned would be helpful.  As someone who came 
> to the project at the very end, I don't feel entitled to point out things 
> that should have been done differently.  As a member of the team that made 
> the decision to pause development, however, I would be happy to help 
> establish criteria that projects need to meet (as a minimum) in order to see 
> continued effort.  Given my limited bandwidth, this is not something I can 
> promise anytime soon and I encourage others to take a first stab.
>
> -J
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Matthew Flaschen 
> wrote:
>
>> On 06/02/2015 06:00 AM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez wrote:
>>
>>> Now there's a lot of skepticism towards the idea in any of its forms
>>> :(
>>>
>>
>> I still think micro-contributions are an important future direction
>> (whether or not WikiGrok is re-activated).
>>
>> Given how successful the metrics were from WikiGrok, it's hard to see
>> why there should be skepticism about the idea of micro-contributions.
>>
>> Matt Flaschen
>>
>>
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