Re: [WikimediaMobile] Forking Wikipedia for Wiktionary mobile app?

[Jan Berkel]

 
> As an avid Wiktionary user and editor, I was wondering: how difficult would 
> it be to fork the Wikipedia app into a Wiktionary app? If MediaWiki doesn’t 
> want to make an official Wiktionary app, I might still want to make my own 
> fork, because I think Wiktionary has a lot to offer compared to other 
> dictionaries available in mobile app stores.


The organization of content on Wikipedia is very different to the structure on 
Wiktionary, so I'm not sure if simply forking the app will produce something 
useful. The same might be true for Kiwix, but it sounds like they plan to do 
some Wiktionary-specific customizations.

It's sad to see that development efforts for generic solutions / apps for 
sister projects don't have a high priority at the WMF right now, it just 
reinforces the view that Wikimedia = Wikipedia.

> There are some apps in the app stores which source data from Wiktionary, such 
> as Livio on Google Play, but they don’t replicate the full Wiktionary 
> experience.

What's the biggest feature you're missing from these apps?

If you're on iOS, you can check out motî, it's a Wiktionary-based app I've been 
working on the last few years:
https://motî.net/ 


   Jan




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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Forking Wikipedia for Wiktionary mobile app?

[Kaartic Sivaraam]

On 23-07-2020 13:15, Stephane Coillet-Matillon wrote:
> 
> This might not entirely answer your question, but FYI the Kiwix team has
> been actively working on making a wiktionary app (offline). There are
> some extra hurdles to deal with, but I’ve got good hopes we will be able
> to come up with a first MVP by the end of this year.
>

That's nice.

If someone wants something similar (offline) right now, there's Aard2
which can be used to browse many sites, including Wiktionary, offline.

Links
===
Project page: http://aarddict.org/
GitHub page: https://github.com/itkach/aard2-android
Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=itkach.aard2
Dictionaries: https://github.com/itkach/slob/wiki/Dictionaries

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Sivaraam

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Forking Wikipedia for Wiktionary mobile app?

[Stephane Coillet-Matillon]

Hi Michael,

This might not entirely answer your question, but FYI the Kiwix team has been 
actively working on making a wiktionary app (offline). There are some extra 
hurdles to deal with, but I’ve got good hopes we will be able to come up with a 
first MVP by the end of this year.

Cheers,
Stephane

> Le 22 juil. 2020 à 19:42, Michael Chen  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
>  
> As an avid Wiktionary user and editor, I was wondering: how difficult would 
> it be to fork the Wikipedia app into a Wiktionary app? If MediaWiki doesn’t 
> want to make an official Wiktionary app, I might still want to make my own 
> fork, because I think Wiktionary has a lot to offer compared to other 
> dictionaries available in mobile app stores.
>  
> Looking through Phabricator, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205727 
>  (“Decide on the future of Android 
> Wiktionary app”) was declined in favor of
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165495 
>  (“Generic MediaWiki Android 
> app”), and that was closed in May 2020 because “Since the app is now wholly 
> dependent on Wikipedia-specific RestBase services, we can no longer 
> officially support a generic mediawiki flavor.” 
> https://blog.go2tech.de/2016/02/how-i-customized-the-wikipedia-app-to-match-the-needs-of-droidwiki-de/
>  
> 
>  makes it sound like all it takes to make a Wiktionary app is some simple 
> text replacement, but that was in 2016. If the Wikipedia API has since 
> substantially diverged from the Wiktionary API, perhaps it would be a lot 
> harder now.
>  
> Other related bugs:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124602 
> : asking to add Wiktionary in the 
> Wikipedia app as a pop-up dictionary
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215097 
> : Dedicated view for Wiktionary 
> search in Wikipedia mobile apps
>  
> There are some apps in the app stores which source data from Wiktionary, such 
> as Livio on Google Play, but they don’t replicate the full Wiktionary 
> experience.
>  
> Thanks for your time and any insights you may be able to provide!
>  
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[WikimediaMobile] Forking Wikipedia for Wiktionary mobile app?

[Michael Chen]

Hi, As an avid Wiktionary user and editor, I was wondering: how difficult would it be to fork the Wikipedia app into a Wiktionary app? If MediaWiki doesn’t want to make an official Wiktionary app, I might still want to make my own fork, because I think Wiktionary has a lot to offer compared to other dictionaries available in mobile app stores. Looking through Phabricator, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205727 (“Decide on the future of Android Wiktionary app”) was declined in favor ofhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165495 (“Generic MediaWiki Android app”), and that was closed in May 2020 because “Since the app is now wholly dependent on Wikipedia-specific RestBase services, we can no longer officially support a generic mediawiki flavor.” https://blog.go2tech.de/2016/02/how-i-customized-the-wikipedia-app-to-match-the-needs-of-droidwiki-de/ makes it sound like all it takes to make a Wiktionary app is some simple text replacement, but that was in 2016. If the Wikipedia API has since substantially diverged from the Wiktionary API, perhaps it would be a lot harder now. Other related bugs:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124602: asking to add Wiktionary in the Wikipedia app as a pop-up dictionaryhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215097: Dedicated view for Wiktionary search in Wikipedia mobile apps There are some apps in the app stores which source data from Wiktionary, such as Livio on Google Play, but they don’t replicate the full Wiktionary experience. Thanks for your time and any insights you may be able to provide! 

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