Re: [WikimediaMobile] Reading goals for the quarter.

2015-11-02 Thread Adam Baso 
Done.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Andre Klapper 
wrote:

> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 19:08 -0800, Toby Negrin wrote:
> > Our goals for Fiscal Year Q2 (Oct - Dec) are up on the wiki.
> > Apologies for this taking so long.
> >
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q2_Goals
> > #Reading
>
> Should that be linked from the central team page on mw.org, like under
> "Strategy and planning" of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading ?
>
> andre
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Reading goals for the quarter.

2015-11-02 Thread Andre Klapper 
On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 19:08 -0800, Toby Negrin wrote:
> Our goals for Fiscal Year Q2 (Oct - Dec) are up on the wiki.
> Apologies for this taking so long.
> 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q2_Goals
> #Reading

Should that be linked from the central team page on mw.org, like under
"Strategy and planning" of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading ?

andre
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[WikimediaMobile] Reading goals for the quarter.

2015-11-01 Thread Toby Negrin 
Hi Everyone --

Our goals for Fiscal Year Q2 (Oct - Dec) are up on the wiki. Apologies for
this taking so long.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q2_Goals#Reading

Please let us know if you have any questions.

-Toby
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Reading goals for the quarter.

2015-11-01 Thread Gergo Tisza 
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Toby Negrin  wrote:

> Hi Everyone --
>
> Our goals for Fiscal Year Q2 (Oct - Dec) are up on the wiki. Apologies for
> this taking so long.
>
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q2_Goals#Reading
>
> Please let us know if you have any questions.
>

Well, my question about the "migrating traffic to OAuth" thing still stands
:) I believe that was on a closed list, so let me rephrase.

OAuth is pretty much login for applications. There are basically three
classes of applications wrt OAuth:
- those that use the write API (edit, upload etc) and can secure the OAuth
"password" (the consumer secret), because they have some kind of
server-side component. These should use OAuth (and, I would imagine,
overwhelmingly do - these are going to be Labs tools mostly) so that our
users don't need to give out their passwords.
- those that use the write API but cannot secure the "password" (mobile
apps, desktop clients, bots). There is a security problem with these using
OAuth.
- those that don't use the write API at all, just display pages / collect
information. Using OAuth for these would essentially mean that we require
users to log in just to read Wikipedia (through these applications).

Which of these classes are we looking at? For the first, I don't think any
intervention is needed (are we even aware of any editing tool that does not
use OAuth?), although more resources for making OAuth easier to use would
be nevertheless a great thing :) For the second, there is the security
issue (I recall you wrote about that
,
although that was again on a closed list). For the third... I really hope
we are not even considering that.
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