[mochikit] MochiKit.Animator and sizzle branch

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Lee-Messer
I was updating one of my projects which uses MochiKit and I thought to
look what's new in MochiKit development.  My project doesn't use
visual effects, but I thought with the next version I might do some
effects.  I found that  Karl Guertin's Animator pages weren't up.
>From emailing him, I learned that he's done some upgrades to his site
and hasn't carried forward the old urls at this point.

I still had Karl's 0.9.2 code from a few years back, so I thought I
would let people know that I've put up a repo on bitbucket in case
they are looking for it.

http://bitbucket.org/cleemesser/mochikit.animator/

I been having fun playing with it and the sizzle version of
MochiKit.Selector from MochiKit svn, which passes the test suite in
firefox, safari, and chrome.  The tip has small updates, commit
4:497bced7d3c5 has the original 0.9.2 version of Animator.

Thanks again to Karl and the MochiKit team,

Chris
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[mochikit] Re: Selector speedup by using John Resig's Sizzle

2008-08-26 Thread Chris Lee-Messer

Adding Sizzle sounds like a substantial plus, I noticed that your
addition fixes the errors in MochiKit.Selector.  Does it break any of
the other (non-selector related) tests in MochiKit?

-Chris

p.s. I'm running firefox 3.1pre now with the JIT running, and
slickspeed tests are interesting as your version of MochiKit.Selector
is reported as faster than Sizzle: most of the response times are 1ms
for a total time of  45ms vs 174ms for Sizzle itself.  I would guess
that some compiled code is being cached. MochiKit's current Selector
comes in with a time of 4045ms.

On Aug 25, 9:11 am, "Arnar Birgisson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 16:06, Arnar Birgisson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For this benchmark, regular MochiKit completed all tests in 3983
> > milliseconds. The MochiKit+Sizzle combination does it in 61. That
> > means we are talking about a speedup by a factor of roughly 65!
>
> Sorry, forgot to mention that this is running on my computer on
> Firefox 3.0. For browsers that support the querySelectorAll method
> (such as FF 3.1), I'd expect an even greater speedup.
>
> cheers,
> Arnar
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[mochikit] Re: other widget toolboxes most compatbile with mochikit?

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Lee-Messer

Jeremy and I will work on finding a day or two to concentrate on
putting something together and then let others know to see if they can
join in.
-chris

On Feb 27, 4:52 pm, Felipe Alcacibar B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is a great idea, like Jason i love coding, MochiKit it gives me the
> control, but some times we need a quick solution for a critical
> problem, and a some simple and effective widgets may be a great
> solution for the MochiKit users to the problem wroted above.
>
> If i can contribute with some widgets that i try to do, and a unstable
> but usable extension for some dom objects, (like the nasty selects)
> but i have some serious problems of work and money and i need
> productivity now(), maybe someone see it and improve (or finish), the
> idea.
>
> http://devel.tryer.cl/tests/gridtest.phphttp://devel.tryer.cl/tests/menu.php
>
> I hope it maybe useful. My email is open to questions, and
> suggestions.
>
> Cheers
>
> Felipe Alcacibar
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[mochikit] Re: other widget toolboxes most compatbile with mochikit?

2008-02-21 Thread Chris Lee-Messer
onality and
> >  flexibility.  Using them together, you can let YUI help you leapfrog
> >  past the basic parts of writing a component, and then write the more
> >  interesting parts with all the speed and convenience of Mochikit.
>
> >  I've worked with the YUI Calendar and AutoComplete libraries
> >  extensively, and both allowed me to get all the base functionality I
> >  wanted (the ability to render a calendar or have an auto-completing
> >  search box) with some additional features I hadn't even have thought
> >  of (like multi-month calendar views), and with a slick/professional
> >  look that works across all major browsers.  Before I tried YUI I
> >  attempted to write both components from scratch, and I didn't have
> >  much success.  Once I discovered YUI, I was able to fully-implement
> >  the core functions of these components, and then get on to the fun
> >  parts, in less time than it had taken me to write even the most bare
> >  bones, half-working-and-even-then-only-in-Firefox type versions of the
> >  components from scratch.
>
> >  I strongly encourage anyone looking for base Javascript "widgets" to
> >  consider YUI.  It's not Mochikit, nor does it feel like Mochikit, and
> >  that is a little annoying at times, but the fact that Yahoo's web
> >  engineering team does half your job for you more than makes up for it.
>
> >  Jeremy
>
> >  P.S.  I think the idea of Mochikit Widget Library is awesome; I know
> >  that if I had a choice of equally functional YUI and Mochikit versions
> >  of a component, I wouldn't even think twice about picking the Mochikit
> >  one.  However, YUI already has A LOT of really great code, and I would
> >  imagine one could get a lot farther, a lot faster, by working on some
> >  sort of Mochikit port of or interface with the YUI library, rather
> >  than starting all over from square one.
>
> >  On Feb 15, 12:57 pm, Chris Lee-Messer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  wrote:
>
> > > First, I want to thank Bob and the rest of the mochikit team for this
> >  > great library.
>
> >  > As a javascript neophyte, I chose Mochikit because it seemed to fit my
> >  > way of thinking. I use python a great deal and mochikit with it's good
> >  > documentation and clarity of organization made javascript more
> >  > rational to me.
>
> >  > Thanks to Mochikit, I was able to build an in-house ajax-type web
> >  > applicaton from scratch and bring it live within a few weeks.
>
> >  > Now I am looking to add more features and I would like to avoid
> >  > spending time writing javascript widgets if it's not necessary.  There
> >  > are now quite a few popular widget libraries and I have looked at
> >  > several of them (yui, dojo, jquery, etc.). Quite a few people have put
> >  > together comparisons and reviews and I am not looking to repeat that
> >  > discussion here.
>
> >  > The question for me is how compatible the mindset of a library is with
> >  > what I've done before.  Some of the pythonista's like to say "Python
> >  > fits my brain."  Mochikit fits for me and ideally, any library that I
> >  > add would do the same.
>
> >  > I'm interested in finding out from mochikit users if they think that
> >  > ne of the javascript widget libraries best fits the mochikit way of
> >  > doing things.
>
> >  > Alternatively, having a place--say on google code--with  mochikit-
> >  > based widgets would allow the community to gradually build up a set of
> >  > mochikit-based widgets.
>
> >  > Many thanks.
> >  > -Chris
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[mochikit] Re: other widget toolboxes most compatbile with mochikit?

2008-02-16 Thread Chris Lee-Messer

It's great to  see the responses.

I'd like to split the thread in two:

1. Among the existing javascript widget libraries, is there one that
is most compatible with mochikit's approach?

2. It sounds like there is interest in creating a repository for
mochikit widgets and/or code snippets.  Do people have a preference
for where it should be hosted?  At mochikit.com? On sourceforge,
savannah, googlecode?
We could start populating the project with Jason Bunting's thick box.
A google search also showed a project on sourceforge with other
intreface components. (I seem to have missplaced the URL).

On Feb 16, 9:08 am, "Jason Bunting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I would be very interested in participating in an effort to build up a
> library of code that uses MochiKit if someone wants to get that going; I
> ported Cody Lindley's jQuery-based ThickBox over to MK quite a while back
> and think it would be nice to have similar "widgets" around for MK to help
> me sell the idea of using MK to those around me.
>
> MochiKit port of ThickBox 
> 2.1:http://www.sapientdevelopment.com/dotnetnuke/downloads/Mochikit/Mochi...
> kBox.zip
>
> Jason Bunting
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mochikit@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Jonathan Gardner
> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:02 PM
> > To: MochiKit
> > Subject: [mochikit] Re: other widget toolboxes most compatbile with
> > mochikit?
>
> > If you are willing to share your code, I am sure others would be as
> > well. It would be nice to have a calendar widget and other common
> > things, but I don't know that there is a good solution out there as
> > far as a framework or whatnot. Having developed a largish application
> > in MochiKit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/gss/browse) I didn't come away
> > thinking that adding a lot more code for a framework was the really
> > right way to do things. (It feels like square peg, round hole.) I'd
> > rather stay as close as I reasonably can to DOM and such, using
> > MochiKit to smooth a few rough edges.
>
> > On Feb 15, 12:57 pm, Chris Lee-Messer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > First, I want to thank Bob and the rest of the mochikit team for this
> > > great library.
>
> > > As a javascript neophyte, I chose Mochikit because it seemed to fit my
> > > way of thinking. I use python a great deal and mochikit with it's good
> > > documentation and clarity of organization made javascript more
> > > rational to me.
>
> > > Thanks to Mochikit, I was able to build an in-house ajax-type web
> > > applicaton from scratch and bring it live within a few weeks.
>
> > > Now I am looking to add more features and I would like to avoid
> > > spending time writing javascript widgets if it's not necessary.  There
> > > are now quite a few popular widget libraries and I have looked at
> > > several of them (yui, dojo, jquery, etc.). Quite a few people have put
> > > together comparisons and reviews and I am not looking to repeat that
> > > discussion here.
>
> > > The question for me is how compatible the mindset of a library is with
> > > what I've done before.  Some of the pythonista's like to say "Python
> > > fits my brain."  Mochikit fits for me and ideally, any library that I
> > > add would do the same.
>
> > > I'm interested in finding out from mochikit users if they think that
> > > ne of the javascript widget libraries best fits the mochikit way of
> > > doing things.
>
> > > Alternatively, having a place--say on google code--with  mochikit-
> > > based widgets would allow the community to gradually build up a set of
> > > mochikit-based widgets.
>
> > > Many thanks.
> > > -Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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[mochikit] other widget toolboxes most compatbile with mochikit?

2008-02-15 Thread Chris Lee-Messer

First, I want to thank Bob and the rest of the mochikit team for this
great library.

As a javascript neophyte, I chose Mochikit because it seemed to fit my
way of thinking. I use python a great deal and mochikit with it's good
documentation and clarity of organization made javascript more
rational to me.

Thanks to Mochikit, I was able to build an in-house ajax-type web
applicaton from scratch and bring it live within a few weeks.

Now I am looking to add more features and I would like to avoid
spending time writing javascript widgets if it's not necessary.  There
are now quite a few popular widget libraries and I have looked at
several of them (yui, dojo, jquery, etc.). Quite a few people have put
together comparisons and reviews and I am not looking to repeat that
discussion here.

The question for me is how compatible the mindset of a library is with
what I've done before.  Some of the pythonista's like to say "Python
fits my brain."  Mochikit fits for me and ideally, any library that I
add would do the same.

I'm interested in finding out from mochikit users if they think that
ne of the javascript widget libraries best fits the mochikit way of
doing things.

Alternatively, having a place--say on google code--with  mochikit-
based widgets would allow the community to gradually build up a set of
mochikit-based widgets.

Many thanks.
-Chris
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