[MMouse]: Re: magnolia, nashville, short cuts, frogs, fish, and raining bloodymeat.
in re: short cuts/nashville, i must say when first i read about what
magnolia's structure was going to be, i was a little worried that it would be
derivative of nashville and short cuts. while the catastrophic events in
both short cuts and magnolia do give some pause for that, i would hope that
it is only a short pause, as it was for me. first, yes julianne moore was in
short cuts. and, henry gibson, who played haven hamilton (the country
singer) in nashville, as well as michael murphy, who was also in nashville,
both show up in magnolia, which i think is a more direct acknowledgment of
the fact that magnolia does have predecessors. i also think that in some
way, in his extra-filmic references ("this is the part of the movie. . ."),
and talk of coincidence, that in a certain way, he's again acknowledging all
of that.
all three do deal with the fact that people's lives touch each other, but
there's more of a randomness to altman's films; peoples lives cross each
other simply because. i'm not slighting it in the least; i personally
thought both films were brilliant. magnolia, on the other hand, is very
strongly thematically linked in the characters, which is what, in the
"intertwining" aspect, sets anderson's film apart. at the end of the day,
we're really just talking about the way the films are structured, and
anderson, i think, largely acknowledges the debt owed to altman. the most
important thing, for me at least, is how anderson builds on that, and makes
such a beautiful film. i mean, if he couldn't write, couldn't direct, and
the structure of the film was it's only strong point, then, yeah, it'd be
unforgivable. (i don't mean this to sound as though i took amy's comments as
an attack; i thought she had a good point. . .i'm more or less responding to
some reviews i've read that do attack anderson for this)
on top of that, though, i must voice my one complaint about altman:
stylistically, visually, he's one of the most boring directors around (again,
i speak as a fan). it's just a preference for documentary-style
cinematography.
i would highly recommend buying a dvd player to anyone who a) doesn't have
one, and b.) is a fan of pt anderson. he has provided commentary on both
hard eight and boogie nights (excellent, excellent, excellent! both of
them!), and it's incredibly entertaining. he has a lot of humility, and he's
a really enthusiastic fan of films. a lot of his sentences start out with "i
ripped this off from. . ." if somewhat coyly.
frogs, fish, and thousands of other things have rained anomalously on land,
including bloody meat. in some cases, it has been a matter of a hurricane
just picking up fish and dropping them on harbor towns, but in the recorded
cases of frogs, it's been a bit more bizarre. after all, it was only frogs
that were dropped, and all of a certain age and size. hurricanes/tornadoes
lack the faculties to discriminate; generally it would just pick up
everything and drop it. if you look around in some "unexplained" books,
you'll find numerous listings of anomalous rain, many of which are even
documented in newspapers and have eyewitnesses, rather than just urban myths.
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[MMouse]: i8/broke/arctic
i just picked up a copy of building something out of nothing and im not a person who likes to complete collections of things. so, my copy of interstate 8 on cd and broke and a life of arctic sounds on 7" are obsolete. if anyone out there would like to buy/trade for them drop me some mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ben
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n644
> chocolate and spaghetti in the bath was icky (pardonez moi, I've been > around a 12 year old for a week, it rubs off.) It doesn't have a message; Is that who taught you your French too? (J/k'n) > Saw Sleepy Hollow and Mystery Man this past week. Both fine movies. Sleepy > Hollow just because. Mystery Man mainly for Tom Waits. Glad to hear someone else liked Sleepy Hollow also. J. "Only two anxieties: ass and bank account... the rest is fluff!" -L.F. Celine
[MMouse]: snow falling on cedars
hey list, i just thought i'd chirp up on the topic of snow fallling on cedars. part of that movie was filmed in my little town (Port townsend) and one of my good friends is in it but i haven't found a theater that is showing it yet. if anyone on the list knows of a theater in washington showing the movie currently, it would be greatly appreciated cause i'm dying to see it. mucho gracias, lindsey P.S. is it even out yet? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n644
>three words: gummo. see it. Yeah, that film is amazing. I quite liked it. That's English for it kicked ass. Damn that was a good movie. The scene where the kid was eating chocolate and spaghetti in the bath was icky (pardonez moi, I've been around a 12 year old for a week, it rubs off.) It doesn't have a message; it was just about a certain layer in society. Just depicting life. It was great. Saw Sleepy Hollow and Mystery Man this past week. Both fine movies. Sleepy Hollow just because. Mystery Man mainly for Tom Waits. Nathalie http://www.KindaMuzik.net icq (not really): 27329313
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n643
>i have a question. there's no doubt that depeche mode is by far the most >sexual music around. there's also marvin gaye, certain mouse songs, and al >green. but what else? i know we touched on this before, but i'm making a >tape, so.. Voulez Vous Coucher Avec Moi does it for me every time. I saw a Modest Mouse single at Replay in Bristol... http://www.KindaMuzik.net icq (not really): 27329313
Re: [MMouse]: Building Nothing
I was justy about to ask if anyone got their copy yet, im on the east coast so it will probably take a few for them to ship it out here -- Dustin "keep your lamp light trimmed and burning" -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: Building Nothing >Date: Thu, Jan 13, 2000, 3:33 PM > > Hey, my copy of Modest Mouse's "Building Nothing" came from Up today > (amazingly fast service, Up!). Even if the choice of tunes was sub-optimal, > Up gets points for great cover art, with the translucent tissue paper with > architectural diagrams and all. But what's this "Copyright 1999" shit? > We're halfway into January, and folks are still scared to date their CDs for > the new century? > > Loring Wirbel > Monument, Colo. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
[MMouse]: Building Nothing
Hey, my copy of Modest Mouse's "Building Nothing" came from Up today (amazingly fast service, Up!). Even if the choice of tunes was sub-optimal, Up gets points for great cover art, with the translucent tissue paper with architectural diagrams and all. But what's this "Copyright 1999" shit? We're halfway into January, and folks are still scared to date their CDs for the new century? Loring Wirbel Monument, Colo. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MMouse]: i already verified the frog thing. read my emailsdamn you.
<< OOH OOH I CAN! I ALREADY SAID THAT HAPPENED DAMNIT! see like these frogs got swept up during a tornado and then they got caught in a cloud when it rained..they came down. neat right? >> thank you for putting the word spoiler somewhere in your email.
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia/nashville and shortcuts
raymond carver wrote shortcuts best movie ever On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, amy wolf wrote: > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:35:38 -0600 > From: amy wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [MMouse]: magnolia/nashville and shortcuts > > ok if anyone has ever watched a robert altman film like nashville or > shortcuts, you're gonna know where i'm going with this probably. > my guess is that paul thomas anderson has seen shortcuts and nashville > judging by magnolia. for one thing, i'm pretty sure julianne moore was in > shortcuts, and for another...did anyone notice the six degrees of > separation type thing going on in magnolia? the exact same goes on in both > shortcuts and nashville. they're all connected somehow, but perhaps they > have no idea how they are all connected/who they are. > amy >
