RE: mod_perl make failed: cannot find -lapr

2003-01-03 Thread Steve Davis
Here is an update:

But before I begin, let me say thank you for both Stan Bekman and Randy
Kobes for your assistance.  So far, result was both good and bad.  The
original issue which I was facing appears to have been resolved.
Unfortunately, yet another problem has been created.  Hence, this
problem may branch into a new issue for which I have started a new
newsgroup thread.  

I would like to recap the measures which were taken for the benefit of
others.  So I'll discuss these points first.  This will show what fix
was used in order to resolve the initial problem.  Then I'll address the
new development.  Refer below section Still again, another option to
get the punch line.

Background:

To solve the original problem I was having, it appears as if a new set
of source was needed, or the it might be resolved by acquiring just
incremental changes.  I didn't' have a client edition of CVS on my
system, and I was trying to avoid bringing that package online.  But I
also can appreciate the difficulty of segregating non-CVS files from the
entire release just to fix the problem I was having.  So there seamed to
be merit bringing going through yet another learning curve.

The first set of alternatives:

So, therefore, it looked as if I had two options to choose from 1)
install CVS and get incremental code that way; or, 2) acquire an entire
'bleeding edge' software release.  This wouldn't be 1.99_07 but result
in acquiring the work in process edition-which was yet another item I
was trying to avoid.  

I did work with CVS to bring it on line.  (I did not have a CVS client
established.  I acquired the manuals, set up the environment variables,
learned the syntax, etc.  I stumbled for a while because I wasn't aware
the package needed to be 'init'(ialized) before it would work.  So
although I used the proper command line syntax, it gave me numerous
error messages.  I eventually got to the point where the code imported,
and the incremental updates were applied.  But regretfully, the
compilation still failed.

The comment I would make about this is having both a CVS and non-CVS
edition of source code available to the public is good.  At time it
maybe necessary to get the CVS code but for some this may turn out to be
somewhat of a headache to bring online.  Unfortunately, in my case, this
turn out to be yet another rabbit trail.  

Yet another alternative was considered:

At one point, to solve my problem, I tried to get another edition of
apr, in the hope it might resolve issues with incompatibilities between
software packages.  Perhaps, I could go forward or backward one resolve
to fix problems with the naming conventions.

At least on my own system, conflicts were created with I downloaded the
latest edition of apr.  When this was compiled, I was no longer was I
able to recompile apache and the issues with mod_perl compiling were not
resolved.  There appears to be a conflict with apache 2.0.43 with
apr-0.9.2.  Now things were definitely getting worse.  Now web server
was offline too and an important library directory had incompatible
libraries in it.  I lost territory.

And I not so sure there is an issue with naming conventions after all,
for I tried to use an earlier edition of apr dating back to august and
it problems still existed.  Further, between the different apr
compilations the naming conventions did not change.  I could investigate
this further but I am not it would be worth the energy.  Changes may
have occurred but not with the source for which I was working with.

Still again, another option:  

Then I hunted and pecked for a while for another alternative.  (At this
point, I was on a mission.  Some minds are like finished cement,
thoroughly mixed and permanently set.  I would really like to get this
online.)  Finally, I discovered http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/ and it
was from this resource for which I able to get an easier solution.  The
is a different source rather than that found under
http://perl.apache.org/dist/ and provided from
http://perl.apache.org/download/source.html#2_0_Development_Source_Distr
ibution 

Finally, a step in the right direction:

I don't know if the is a difference between the distribution source vs.
that found in the CVS source, or it there just happened to be recent
changes (directories/links to these files), but there is a change in the
outcome than what I was first working with.  Through this new resource,
I downloaded an entire software release and began to work with that.
Fortunately, I was able to compile mod_perl.  Progress at last!
Working with mod_perl 2.0 was definitely better than edition 1.99_07.

The bad news:

But now a new problem has developed-the bad news.  When httpd.conf
configured to invoke the new mod_perl module, and when httpd is started,
Apache is generates the following error message httpd failed. The error
was: Starting httpd: httpd: module mod_perl.c is not compatible with
this version of Apache.  Please contact the vendor for the correct
version.

mod_perl.c Not Compatible with Apache

2003-01-03 Thread Steve Davis
Upon successfully compiling mod_perl 2.0, and modifying httpd.conf so
that it becomes invoked at the start of Apache 2.0.43, the following
error message is gernerated.  It is httpd failed. The error was:
Starting httpd: httpd: module mod_perl.c is not compatible with this
version of Apache.
Please contact the vendor for the correct version. [FAILED]

If you would like you, may refer to the previous thread named mod_perl
make failed: cannot find -lapr for a history of the root of this
problem-particularly the last post directly before this article.  This
also shows the detail environment and configuration for the server in
question.  Else, I would be glad more details to this post.  In brief,
let me say, the system consists of RH 8.0, apache 2.0.43, and current
CVS edition of mod_perl 2.0.  It has a date stamp of 1/1/03.

This is one problem which I don't know how to proceed with.  Is this
message saying the code in mod_perl's mod_perl.c is using an edition
of 'C' code that is incompatible with Apache 2.0?  Is the development
environment for which mod_perl 2.0 is being developed, by its creators,
using a 'C' compiler that is different than what is found on RH 8.0?
Does any one have an idea of how I might go about solving this problem?
Any advance given would be appreciated.  

Steve D







RE: mod_perl.c Not Compatible with Apache

2003-01-03 Thread Steve Davis
Randy,

All of what I've done, in the form of compiling software, has been done
on the same computer and with the same release of the RH.  So, there is
nothing for which I'm doing to distinctly change which compiler is being
used between the compilations of the packages.

As best as I can recall, the answer is 'yes' to the last three questions
you asked.  1) Everything compiles successfully.  2) The edition of
mod_perl was obtained from cvs.apache.org while the Apache was from the
distribution source repository.  3) The various release numbers for the
packages where the most current; hence, 2.0.43 of Apache and 2.0 for
mod_perl.

Maybe there is some difference between the distribution and CVS versions
of Apache.  Perhaps, the next step will be to match packages via
obtaining CVS editions from both packages and see what happens then.
This shouldn't take to long.  I'll give it a shot and provide an update.


Let me also add, I'm grateful for your help.  Thank you.

Steve D

The following comments were provided from Randy Kobes:

I think in general the problem  mod_perl.c is not compatible with this
version of Apache.
means that mod_perl was compiled against a different set of Apache
sources than that used to build the server trying to load the mod_perl
module (assuming that the same compiler
is being used in building Perl, Apache, and mod_perl).

Just to clarify what came from where 

- are you using a modperl-2.0 cvs snapshot from
 http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/modperl-2.0/?
- are you running Apache 2.0.43, compiled from the sources
  httpd-2.0.43.tar.gz from 
 http://httpd.apache.org/dist/httpd/?

If so, does modperl-2.0 compile against these apache 2.0 sources
successfully?

-- 
best regards,
randy






RE: mod_perl.c Not Compatible with Apache

2003-01-03 Thread Steve Davis
Randy,

You 'maybe' on to something here.  Let me report to you what I found.
In order to be as careful and consistent as possible, I've actually
started to keep a log of my activities.  It records which commands which
I've been used to compile the packages.  So I can saw with certainty the
following.  Here are the parameters which I used to compile both Apache
and mod_perl.

To configure Apache:
./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --with-mpm=prefork

To configure mod_perl:
perl Makefile.PL MP_AP_PREFIX=/etc/httpd MP_APXS=/etc/httpd/bin/apxs
MP_INST_APACHE2=1 MP_DEBUG=1

Also, when I examine /etc/httpd/bin/httpd (the executable),
/etc/httpd/lib/libarp*,  and /etc/module/mod_perl.so, all the theses
files have a creation date that's current (today's date).  Plus,
/etc/httpd/httpd.conf points to the current file locations.  According
to the RH 8.0 docs regarding Apache 2.X, they suggest modifying
httpd.conf to incorporate the use of an include statement which invokes
/etc/conf.d/perl.conf.  This latter file points to
/etc/httpd/module/mod_perl.3.0.  I've mapped the files and dates.  There
doesn't appear to be any conflict here.  

However, for good measure, I just completed a search of the /etc/* and
/usr/* directories for the presence of the httpd executable.  And there
are two of them on the system.  To be expected, the /etc/httpd/bin/httpd
executable is present.  However, these is also an existence of a httpd
executable under /usr/sbin.  When I changed the name of /etc/sbin/httpd
to /etc/sbin/httpd-bu (backup).  The httpd web server wouldn't start any
longer (I toggled this off and on via the service utilility [start -
system settings - service]).  /etc/sbin/httpd has a footprint of 384.7K
where as /etc/httpd/bin/httpd is a 2meg file.  I don't know whether
/etc/sbin/httpd is being used to merely start /etc/httpd/bin/httpd or
not.  If you can advise further it would be helpful.

This is the first time which I had to gain the merits (and subsequent
challenges) of dealing with the open source world.  Bringing mod_perl
on-line has been a bitter-sweet experience.  On the up side, it is
certainly sweet to gain help from others for which I am exceedingly
grateful for.  In this regard, the help being provided is making this a
better experience.  To your credit, I not accustom to this type of aid
when dealing with the proprietary world.  That is, I am not familiar
with receiving the same degree of cooperation, support, and camaraderie.
Therefore, let me continue to express my gratitude.  It means a lot to
me.  Thank you.  

Steve


Steve D


-Original Message-
From: Randy Kobes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:19 PM
To: Steve Davis
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: mod_perl.c Not Compatible with Apache 

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Steve Davis wrote:

 Randy,
 
 All of what I've done, in the form of compiling software, has been
done
 on the same computer and with the same release of the RH.  So, there
is
 nothing for which I'm doing to distinctly change which compiler is
being
 used between the compilations of the packages.
 
 As best as I can recall, the answer is 'yes' to the last three
questions
 you asked.  1) Everything compiles successfully.  2) The edition of
 mod_perl was obtained from cvs.apache.org while the Apache was from
the
 distribution source repository.  3) The various release numbers for
the
 packages where the most current; hence, 2.0.43 of Apache and 2.0 for
 mod_perl.
 
 Maybe there is some difference between the distribution and CVS
versions
 of Apache.  Perhaps, the next step will be to match packages via
 obtaining CVS editions from both packages and see what happens then.
 This shouldn't take to long.  I'll give it a shot and provide an
update.

This is strange ... I just tried, on a RedHat 7.1 system, the
cvs modperl-2.0 sources compiled against
Server version: Apache/2.0.43
built using stock httpd-2.0.43 sources, and it went fine. You 
shouldn't have to use the cvs apache sources. mod_perl was built as
 perl Makefile.PL MP_AP_PREFIX=/usr/local/httpd MP_INST_APACHE2=1
where the httpd binary is installed under /usr/local/httpd/bin. 

One thought ... Some Linux distributions come with their own
Apache server, which may be in a different location than the
Apache 2.0.43 you built and installed. Are you sure that the
mod_perl you built is being used with your Apache-2.0.43
specified under MP_AP_PREFIX?

-- 
best regards,
randy






mod_perl make failed: cannot find -lapr

2002-12-31 Thread Steve Davis
Your help will be very much appreciated to resolve the following issue.
When attempting to make mod_perl.so, the make script 'almost' makes a
touchdown but fails before getting to the finishing line.  Now it is
time get some help from a coach.  Hopefully, with a little help, a
touchdown will soon follow.  Below, I present was appears to be the
problem, but someone else will have to direct me to the next set of
steps.

I've spend an extensive amount of time trying to resolve this myself and
it needs another set of eyes.  The news groups were reviewed
(repeatedly) for assistance, on-line docs, and what available books I
could find.

The environment is RH 8.0, Apache 2.0.43, Perl 5.8.0, mod_perl 1.99_07.
As best as I can tell, Apache, Perl, and mod_perl have been compiled
using the recommended configuration options listed in either Redhat's
instructions or mod_perl's on-line docs.  Get care has been taken to try
to dot every one and cross every 't' to my ability.

This problem 'may' have to do with an issue of a change of naming
conventions which were adapted by the apr apache group.  Confer with
Stas Bekman's post on Nov 26, 2002 with a title of Problems compiling
mod_perl 1.99_07 in RH 8.0.  He provides a cvs patch; but,
unfortunately, I'm not familiar with using that-as least-as of yet.
(Look's like I might have learn this package real soon.)  Are they any
intentions to update the mod_perl-1.99_07.tar.gz?  If my conclusion is
correct, then currently, and according to the on-line instructions, the
present tar.gz edition is not compatible to the latest edition of
apache. (2.0.43).  So, 'maybe' the cause of my make failure.  It appears
as if, only the cvs repository maybe a valid for compiling.  If my
analysis is correct, and a new edition of the respective non-cvs files
be acquired somehow.

I confuse my ignorance and lack of familiarity with these packages so I
could be off.  

Thank you.   Steve

The environment is described below.

Apache has been configured with --prefix=/etc/httpd
--with-mpm=prefork.
Perl has been configured with -des -Dusethreads -Doptimize='-g'
-Dusedevel.
The perl Makefile.PL was flagged with MP_AP_PREFIX=/etc/httpd
MP_INST_APACHE2=1  MP_APXS=/etc/httpd/bin.  (I also, attempted to
configure the mod_perl makefile with the MP_APXS which generated the
same error message.)

The details follow below.

Here is excerpt from the screen dump from the make output.

make[1]
: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/WrapXS'
make[1]
: Entering directory
`/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/docs/api/mod_perl-2.0'
make[1]
: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/docs/api/mod_perl-2.0'
make[1]
: Entering directory `/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs'
make[2]
: Entering directory `/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs/APR'
make[3]
: Entering directory `/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs/APR/APR'
rm -f 
../../../blib/arch/Apache2/auto/APR/APR.so
LD_RUN_PATH=/usr/lib cc  
-shared -L/usr/local/lib APR.o  -o ../../../blib/arch/Apache2-lapr
-laprutil
/usr/bin/ld

: cannot find -lapr
collect2

: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]
: *** [../../../blib/arch/Apache2/auto/APR/APR.so] 
Error 1
make[3]
: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs/APR/APR'
make[2]
: *** [subdirs] Error 2
make[2]
: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs/APR'
make[1]
: *** [subdirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs'
m

Here is a list of the files within /etc/httpd/lib.

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 6996 Dec 30 21:04
apr.exp
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 3481 Dec 30 21:04
aprutil.exp
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 21354 Dec 30 21:01 apxs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2685082 Dec 30 21:03 libapr-0.a
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 628 Dec 30 21:03
libapr-0.la
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 17 Dec 30 01:42
libapr-0.so - libapr-0.so.0.9.2
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 17 Dec 30 01:42
libapr-0.so.0 - libapr-0.so.0.9.2
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1282063 Dec 30 01:42
libapr-0.so.0.9.2
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1425080 Dec 30 21:04
libaprutil-0.a
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 640 Dec 30 21:04
libaprutil-0.la
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 21 Dec 30 01:42
libaprutil-0.so - libaprutil-0.so.0.9.2
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 21 Dec 30 01:42
libaprutil-0.so.0 - libaprutil-0.so.0.9.2
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 765330 Dec 30 01:42
libaprutil-0.so.0.9.2

In case the following can be of any value, here is further info. from
the perl REPORT program.  (In this case that would be,
/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/t.)

. Problem Description:

  [DESCRIBE THE PROBLEM HERE]

2. Used Components and their Configuration:

*** using
/usr/src/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_07/t/../lib/Apache/BuildConfig.pm
*** Makefile.PL options:
  MP_APXS =