Re: [ANNOUNCE] RoboWeb 1.0b, web application test suite generator
If you guys end up finally collaborating, one very minor request I would have is that it goes into CPAN as something more standard like WWW:: namespace rather than a marketing name like RoboWeb. RoboWeb is actually a good product name (and in fact do a search on google for other tools with a RoboWeb label attached to them), but it really opens up room for misinterpretation in the future. And personally, I think these seem like indispensable tools that should be a standard CPAN addition. Calling it RoboWeb on CPAN will make it as confusing as figuring out which template solution to use -- but I suspect that web testing features can be fairly standardized (unlike templates). At 11:53 AM 7/23/2001 +0400, Ilya Martynov wrote: We should investigate how these 2 projects can work together when I'm done so that RoboWeb 'recorded' sessions can create WWW::Automate methods that utilise the structure of the page. The benefits of doing this are: 1- Resultant scripts are easier to interpret 2- Scripting apps that vary their form field names works. CG [..skip..] CG I look forward to seeing WWW::Automate and to working together on this. I've recently become maintainer of another testing module HTTP::WebTest. Stable version (released on CPAN) already has many interesting features (like response time tests, text matching tests, content size checks, support for both remote web server and local test modes). I'm working on its rewrite in modular style where tests modules are pluggable so it will be easily extendable. After finishing with it I thought about writhing proxy that records users actions and produces skeleton of test. Maybe joining our efforts have some sense. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Ilya Martynov (http://martynov.org/)| | GnuPG 1024D/323BDEE6 D7F7 561E 4C1D 8A15 8E80 E4AE BE1A 53EB 323B DEE6 | | AGAVA Software Company (http://www.agava.com/) | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- __ Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) eXtropia - The Open Web Technology Company http://www.eXtropia.com/
Re: [ANNOUNCE] RoboWeb 1.0b, web application test suite generator
We should investigate how these 2 projects can work together when I'm done so that RoboWeb 'recorded' sessions can create WWW::Automate methods that utilise the structure of the page. The benefits of doing this are: 1- Resultant scripts are easier to interpret 2- Scripting apps that vary their form field names works. CG [..skip..] CG I look forward to seeing WWW::Automate and to working together on this. I've recently become maintainer of another testing module HTTP::WebTest. Stable version (released on CPAN) already has many interesting features (like response time tests, text matching tests, content size checks, support for both remote web server and local test modes). I'm working on its rewrite in modular style where tests modules are pluggable so it will be easily extendable. After finishing with it I thought about writhing proxy that records users actions and produces skeleton of test. Maybe joining our efforts have some sense. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Ilya Martynov (http://martynov.org/)| | GnuPG 1024D/323BDEE6 D7F7 561E 4C1D 8A15 8E80 E4AE BE1A 53EB 323B DEE6 | | AGAVA Software Company (http://www.agava.com/) | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [ANNOUNCE] RoboWeb 1.0b, web application test suite generator
Ilya Martynov wrote: We should investigate how these 2 projects can work together when I'm done so that RoboWeb 'recorded' sessions can create WWW::Automate methods that utilise the structure of the page. The benefits of doing this are: 1- Resultant scripts are easier to interpret 2- Scripting apps that vary their form field names works. FYI, during my Apache::ASP presentation today at the OSS conference in San Diego, I recommended both HTTP::WebTest and RoboWeb for regression testing a site. Someone from the audience asked where they could find pricing information on these tools :) --Josh _ Joshua Chamas Chamas Enterprises Inc. NodeWorks Founder Huntington Beach, CA USA http://www.nodeworks.com1-714-625-4051
Re: [ANNOUNCE] RoboWeb 1.0b, web application test suite generator
I have developed a semi-automatic test generator for web applications. I've called it RoboWeb and it's now available for download from sourceforge, hoping that it can be useful to others. Unbelievable... Three days ago I looked for something suitable for writing test suites and came up a blank, so for the last 3 days I've been writing WWW::Automate. And now this great looking package appears when I'm 75% done! Anyhow, I'll finish what I'm doing over the weekend and release it, since it has some different functionality to RoboWeb, including finding form elements to fill in based on their relationship to other elements (e.g. the text field after the text 'User Name:' or The checkbox in the table column headed 'Flag', in the 3rd row). We should investigate how these 2 projects can work together when I'm done so that RoboWeb 'recorded' sessions can create WWW::Automate methods that utilise the structure of the page. The benefits of doing this are: 1- Resultant scripts are easier to interpret 2- Scripting apps that vary their form field names works. -- Jeremy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] RoboWeb 1.0b, web application test suite generator
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have developed a semi-automatic test generator for web applications. I've called it RoboWeb and it's now available for download from sourceforge, hoping that it can be useful to others. Unbelievable... Three days ago I looked for something suitable for writing test suites and came up a blank, so for the last 3 days I've been writing WWW::Automate. And now this great looking package appears when I'm 75% done! Long time ago I've started working on Apache::Benchmark, but have never had a chance to finish it. The first working prototype is available from here: http://stason.org/works/modules/Apache-Benchmark-0.01.tar.gz (but was never released on CPAN). One of these days I'll get back to work on and probably base it on Apache::Test or even merge it in, since the two have a lot in common. _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://apachetoday.com http://eXtropia.com/ http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
[ANNOUNCE] RoboWeb 1.0b, web application test suite generator
I have developed a semi-automatic test generator for web applications. I've called it RoboWeb and it's now available for download from sourceforge, hoping that it can be useful to others. The project page at sourceforge is http://sourceforge.net/projects/roboweb. Here's an excerpt from the README, and after it a comparison with Test::CGI, which is a tool at CPAN whose intent is similar. RoboWeb is a suite of Perl scripts that allow for recording live user browsing sequences and insert assertions during them to later reproduce and automatically verify correctness of output of a web application. Recording test sequences is easy: just fire the roboweb_proxy script and make your browser point to it. The proxy will generate a test sequence script as you browse and you can insert must_match commands in the recorded sequence by entering regular expressions directly in your browser's URL box. These commands get translated into assertions that will be run against the server response text when the sequences are reproduced, to verify that server responses are correct. RoboWeb will also automatically put your web application backend database in a constant 'test-scenario' state before recording test sequences and before executing test scripts. This allows for reliable testing of complex web applications. Also, the recorded test sequence scripts support cookies, which allows them to interact successfully with most web application. After you collect a number of test sequences you can execute them via the TEST script, which will produce standard perl Test::Harness output. COMPARISON WITH THE Test::CGI MODULE The intent of Test::CGI is almost the same. It's about crafting test sequences that will be run against a web application in an automated fashion. The main differences I see between both approaches are: 1. RoboWeb makes it much easier to generate a test suite, because test sequence scripts under it are almost completely machine generated, except assertions, which are easily inserted by entering regexps in the URL box as you browse through your app. Test::CGI instead requires that all HTTP requests be hand coded by the test writer. 2. RoboWeb runs against a live web server, versus Test::CGI, which runs web apps as standalone CGI processes. Test::CGI is less complete in this regard, because it doesn't allow to test apps in the environment they'll be running on (e.g. mod_perl apps that rely on persitent variables are not testable with Test::CGI). 3. The RoboWeb client (which uses LWP::UserAgent and an HTTP::Cookie jar) supports cookies, which allow it to test most web applications. Test::CGI does not support cookies. 4. Test::CGI cannot request plain documents, whereas Roboweb can. 5. Both RoboWeb and Test::CGI produce Test::Harness output. Regards, Claudio Garcia
