Re: [OT] Availability of Jobs -- was Re: [SOLICITATION] Programmeravailable for contracting..

2001-01-13 Thread Gunther Birznieks


  I notice that there have been many more job postings from employment
  seekers have occurred in the last few weeks versus jobs. Whereas it used
  to be many more jobs wanting mod_perl vs seekers of jobs.
 
  Is this an odd time of year for many contractors where the contract ends
  around the holiday season? Or is this starting to be a symptom of dotcoms
  going bust and the development market starting to level out?
 
  Or perhaps I am being a bit paranoid. :)

I have gotten some public responses but more private questions to ask what 
the response has been like since most people who have a sad story to tell 
usually won't tell it in public.

To summarize (and end the thread -- at least for private responses to me 
which isn't necessary)...

Everything that I have been emailed indicates that there are plenty of jobs 
still out there for people on this list.

However, the emails to me may be summarized by saying that the market is 
not what it used to be. This seems to have effected the number of jobs 
paying top $ rather than anything else specific.

I think the emails I received were from people who were technical enough to 
be on this list and be interested in mod_perl (more techie than most 
probably). So there are always going to be jobs for people like those -- 
that is my belief.

Stas pointed out F*ckedCompany.com which people have mixed feelings about.

I think F*ckedCompany does show that there are a lot of jobs that have been 
lost. And clearly the barrage of medium-size eBusiness consulting firms 
such as Scient laying off so many people is also a blow.

However, with that said. My startup in Singapore has gone to multiple dead 
startups here and interviewed their techs to get them to come to us after 
the company announced they were closing.

What I have found in interviewing the left over techs is that out of a 
company that might have 20 techs, they are usually not very bright and know 
how to do only one thing really well (like maybe all they know how to do is 
DBA Oracle) and clearly would need a lot of management if we were to hire 
them.

The people from a dead startup that are really good -- well, the story is 
that they usually left somewhat a bit before the startup died (not the 
reason, but they were savvy enough to smell the coffee) or they already 
easily get hired straight out before. The people that are left are either 
slow or they have already promised to go to another place when the startup 
finally winds up but are staying to help finish it out and possibly aid in 
selling off the assets (one major one is usually the IP bound up in the 
software that was developed and usually requires a bit of cleanup by a good 
programmer).

Others have also said (appropriately) that this is the season for bonus 
time and so some may be looking around to leave before they get their bonus 
so they can be prepared to resign if a better opportunity arises.

I guess that makes sense and I should have thought of that. After all I 
resigned my job last year as soon as my bonus was wire transferred from 
London to my US account.

Anyway, Sorry for bugging Jeffrey and others with the off topic. I felt I 
wanted to summarize the responses I got because I still get private ones so 
clearly there are people interested.

But I would like to say that I would rather not get responses to this 
anymore about each individual story sent to me in private. So please don't 
send me anymore private responses unless you really have something new for 
me to know that hasn't been mentioned here. :)

Thanks,
  Gunther




Re: [OT] Availability of Jobs -- was Re: [SOLICITATION] Programmeravailable for contracting..

2001-01-10 Thread Buddy Lee Haystack

Most year-end bonuses should be paid by the end of this month, while many were already 
paid out EOY 2000. Since the US stock market is in decline, many people assume their 
EOY 2001 bonuses will pale in comparison to 2000's. What better time to look for 
greener pastures. [Not including the over-compensated dot com folks who were over-paid 
anyway.;-)]

mehryar wrote:
 
 Im not sure about the contract positions but this is traditionally the
 time of the year when people decide its time for a change, its endemic to
 all other types of industries not just the software industry.
 And to alleviate your paranoia a little, a report I read last month said
 software jobs were actually on the increase, rivalling the ever
 hungry system administration job market.
 
 cheers,
 Mehryar
 
 On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
 
  I notice that there have been many more job postings from employment
  seekers have occurred in the last few weeks versus jobs. Whereas it used to
  be many more jobs wanting mod_perl vs seekers of jobs.
 
  Is this an odd time of year for many contractors where the contract ends
  around the holiday season? Or is this starting to be a symptom of dotcoms
  going bust and the development market starting to level out?
 
  Or perhaps I am being a bit paranoid. :)
 
  u
 

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