Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
Chris Devers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ahh, you have Budweiser in Australia too, then? ;) Worse: Fosters. -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com All the Purple Family Tree news http://www.slashrock.com Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire
Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > To: Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) > > That's because it's stale piss, I'm sure the beer glasses are pissed > in to save money ;-) Heck, the beer is so bad nobody can possibly tell > the difference anyway. Ahh, you have Budweiser in Australia too, then? ;) -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache / mod_perl http://bunny.skillcheck.com/admin/chris/resume/
Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > America is richer than Australia. Yeah, but the food's better in Oz. Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com All the Purple Family Tree news http://www.slashrock.com Interim Technical Director, Web Architecture Consultant for hire
Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And imitation Guiness. Also Tooheys, (Four-X, > rednecked Queensland favourite), Hahn, etc. Home-brew imitation guinness is still better than any of the rest. altho when it's not available i a quite happy with vb!
Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
"Purcell, Scott" wrote: > What kind of thread is this? > I ask a question about modperl on NT and I get riddled from the list for > using NT. Then we have a thread that goes for two days about hourly charges? What did you expect? You shoulda been using Win2K! *duck*
RE: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
What kind of thread is this? I ask a question about modperl on NT and I get riddled from the list for using NT. Then we have a thread that goes for two days about hourly charges? What's up with this ..This should be for questions about modperl. Give it a rest, I'm tired of throwing that thread away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 8:41 AM To: brian moseley; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming? Yes, they probably have tons of experience too, which I don't have, and I'm not in Melbourne. I used to work in Melbourne and never saw any jobs for $80 - $100 per hour, apart from doctors. I'll go have another look. I need to work from home too which is a major barrier to employment. - Original Message - From: "brian moseley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming? > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5 > > >per hour) for my mod_perl programming... > > > > > >You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My god, I'm in the wrong > > >country... > > > > America is richer than Australia. > > gnudev, i don't know in what part of the country you're > working, but i know several people in melbourne who are > routinely getting paid au$80-100/hr for php, > javascript/dhtml and ui design work. i haven't seen any perl > work around, but then i haven't been looking either. > >
Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
> > Ahh, you have Budweiser in Australia too, then? ;) > > Worse: Fosters. And imitation Guiness. Also Tooheys, (Four-X, rednecked Queensland favourite), Hahn, etc. Home-brew kits are extremely popular. Australians are the Leonardo Da Vinci's of piss artists - master strokes in the beer swilling. Our ex Prime Minister Bob Hawke was a sculling champion at Oxford University, heh heh.
Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
> Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) That's because it's stale piss, I'm sure the beer glasses are pissed in to save money ;-) Heck, the beer is so bad nobody can possibly tell the difference anyway.
Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
Yes, they probably have tons of experience too, which I don't have, and I'm not in Melbourne. I used to work in Melbourne and never saw any jobs for $80 - $100 per hour, apart from doctors. I'll go have another look. I need to work from home too which is a major barrier to employment. - Original Message - From: "brian moseley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming? > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > > > At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5 > > >per hour) for my mod_perl programming... > > > > > >You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My god, I'm in the wrong > > >country... > > > > America is richer than Australia. > > gnudev, i don't know in what part of the country you're > working, but i know several people in melbourne who are > routinely getting paid au$80-100/hr for php, > javascript/dhtml and ui design work. i haven't seen any perl > work around, but then i haven't been looking either. > >
Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5 > >per hour) for my mod_perl programming... > > > >You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My god, I'm in the wrong > >country... > > America is richer than Australia. gnudev, i don't know in what part of the country you're working, but i know several people in melbourne who are routinely getting paid au$80-100/hr for php, javascript/dhtml and ui design work. i haven't seen any perl work around, but then i haven't been looking either.
Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?
C'mon guys remember to add OT to your off topic messages! It's not that hard. :) At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5 >per hour) for my mod_perl programming... > >You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My god, I'm in the wrong >country... America is richer than Australia. >Work is scarce in Australia and poorly paid in most cases compared to >America. If I could get US$20 per hour for programming work I would be >overjoyed with that! > >I'm not experienced in mod_perl commercially so I doubt I would get more >than that, but I think US$20 per hour is reasonable for quality labor >nontheless. > >I need to work from home. Anybody got any suggestions? I have looked on >Yahoo for work from home jobs and they seem to be crooks. I never get any >responses. There's part of your problem. Few people trust telecommuters they don't know unless the job is fairly clear. I know I don't. I have telecommuters working for us on occasion but I know them or I trust them based on knowing them through a third party. You're lucky you get what you get and the price you get it. You're cutting yourself down of opportunities by having to work at home. I don't mean to be so frank about it. But really... this is a huge factor. It's a great luxury to work at home but it rarely works out unless you are really highly motivated or highly disciplined. Some people are like that, unfortunately this is not the majority of people so adding the project management overhead on behalf of the client means having to drop the hourly wage to the work-at-home consultant.
