Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
 
  I have to say that I really enjoyed reading this. Especially since I was 
  stuck halfway around the world and couldn't really go this year. :(
  
  I wonder if the OReillyCon people would consider linking to this piece?
 
 I've offered it to MJD/JonO for www.perl.com - assuming they'll be running
 the same sort of thing as they did for YAPC.

mjd just wrote that they will.

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Date: 26 Jul 2000 06:37:25 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Would you like to do a very brief conference reoprt for perl.com?

I need conference reports from last week's big Open Source
conferences.  I've decided that it's boring to have one big
comprehensive report from one person, and that I like getting many
small reports from many different people.  This worked well for the
YAPC reports (http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/07/yapc19101.html) and
I'm doing it again.

If you're interested in contributing a report, please keep it short:
No more than about 300 words; that is a little longer than this
message is.  100 words is also fine; 400 words is not so fine. 

Don't try to cover the whole conference.  Try to focus on one or at
most two specific items that were interesting to you.  The items
don't have to be talks or other official events; you might write
about a conversation that you had in the hallway, or someone that
you met that you hadn't expected to meet, or what it was like to be
in Monterey. The only thing you should really avoid is vagueness.  
Don't say "I learned a lot at the talks."  Say "I sat next to
so-and-so at lunch, and she talked about this and that, which
surprised me, because..."

If you want to write a report, please send it to me by Friday night.
On the weekend I'll collate the reports I got and put them up on
www.perl.com.

If you weren't even at the conference and I sent this to you by
mistake, please read the next paragraph only.

Please forward this to anyone else you know who was at the
conference who might be interested in writing a report.

Thanks.

/snip



 - ask

ps. more pictures of Perl People at http://photo.tomat.dk/tpc4/
now... if you haven't seen a picture of Doug before then you should
take a look at http://photo.tomat.dk/tpc4/dsc_4696.html ... :)

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Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Greg Cope

Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
 
 
 ps. more pictures of Perl People at http://photo.tomat.dk/tpc4/
 now... if you haven't seen a picture of Doug before then you should
 take a look at http://photo.tomat.dk/tpc4/dsc_4696.html ... :)

seems to me to involve lots of Beer and and I not sure about the
relevance of the fish ...

Thanks

Greg


 
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Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Randal L. Schwartz

 "Ask" == Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ask And the many pictures involving people slightly intoxicating
Ask themself are just because they were a lot more fun than pictures of
Ask people in conference rooms. :)

Yup.  'cept for me.  I just finished one year of no drinking.  I'm
extending that to at least the end of 2000, until I have enough data
about what being a dry guy vs a drinking guy is, so I can make
appropriate choices.

It was pretty amazing watching $11K of drinks being consumed around me
at my party last wednesday night.  But I figured that was just about
the same as what people had bought for me over the years, so I think
I'm now even. :)

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Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread

Hold on there.  Did I read that right?  Is that "11 thousand" dollars?  WTF!?!  Do 
your friends happen to be elephants who like to drink alcohol???  Just how in the hell 
do you consume that much liquor at a single party?!

P.S.  Let us know how the non-drinking thing goes.  You're a much braver man than I...

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On 26 Jul 2000 15:43:51 -070   Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
 "Ask" == Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ask And the many pictures involving people slightly intoxicating
Ask themself are just because they were a lot more fun than pictures of
Ask people in conference rooms. :)

Yup.  'cept for me.  I just finished one year of no drinking.  I'm
extending that to at least the end of 2000, until I have enough data
about what being a dry guy vs a drinking guy is, so I can make
appropriate choices.

It was pretty amazing watching $11K of drinks being consumed around me
at my party last wednesday night.  But I figured that was just about
the same as what people had bought for me over the years, so I think
I'm now even. :)

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[OT] Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hold on there.  Did I read that right?  Is that "11 thousand" dollars?  
 WTF!?!  Do your friends happen to be elephants who like to drink
 alcohol???  Just how in the hell do you consume that much liquor at a
 single party?!

You've never thrown a party with an open bar, have you? ;-)

/me appologises for the 8 beers and 4 whiskeys that he consumed, and
promises to repay Randall when/if he stops the no-drink thing :-)

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Re: [OT] Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Randal L. Schwartz

 "Matt" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Matt You've never thrown a party with an open bar, have you? ;-)

Especially with premium and call liquor, and very few beer choices
(sorry!).

Matt /me appologises for the 8 beers and 4 whiskeys that he consumed, and
Matt promises to repay Randall when/if he stops the no-drink thing :-)

No, please no.  I threw the party so that my friends could have a good
time.  I'm not owed a thing.  Please no.  It was entirely my pleasure.

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Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-24 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Perrin Harkins wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
 
  I've put my report on the OSS/Perl conference online for all to
  see. Hopefully you'll find it vaguely interesting in parts. Its at
  http://modperl.sergeant.org/oss-conf-report.txt
 
 "On Wednesday I first went to Andy Wardley's Template Toolkit BOF where he
 showed us briefly how it works, and then I told him I might add support to
 AxKit for TT2"
 
 Hey, I was thinking about that too!  TT seems like such a natural fit for
 this, and it looked like it would be pretty easy to add.  I don't have
 time to code it right now, but I know a fair amount about how to use TT
 efficiently from mod_perl and I'd be happy to answer questions.

It will be a while before I get around to doing any coding on this
whatsoever. I have a lot of work to do before ApacheCon to get something
working on what I've been promising people on. Maybe after then though!

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Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-24 Thread Gunther Birznieks

I have to say that I really enjoyed reading this. Especially since I was 
stuck halfway around the world and couldn't really go this year. :(

I wonder if the OReillyCon people would consider linking to this piece?

At 12:44 PM 7/23/00 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
I've put my report on the OSS/Perl conference online for all to
see. Hopefully you'll find it vaguely interesting in parts. Its at
http://modperl.sergeant.org/oss-conf-report.txt

--
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Email for training and consultancy availability.
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Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-24 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:

 I have to say that I really enjoyed reading this. Especially since I was 
 stuck halfway around the world and couldn't really go this year. :(
 
 I wonder if the OReillyCon people would consider linking to this piece?

I've offered it to MJD/JonO for www.perl.com - assuming they'll be running
the same sort of thing as they did for YAPC.

-- 
Matt/

Fastnet Software Ltd. High Performance Web Specialists
Providing mod_perl, XML, Sybase and Oracle solutions
Email for training and consultancy availability.
http://sergeant.org | AxKit: http://axkit.org




OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-23 Thread Matt Sergeant

I've put my report on the OSS/Perl conference online for all to
see. Hopefully you'll find it vaguely interesting in parts. Its at
http://modperl.sergeant.org/oss-conf-report.txt

-- 
Matt/

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Providing mod_perl, XML, Sybase and Oracle solutions
Email for training and consultancy availability.
http://sergeant.org | AxKit: http://axkit.org




Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-23 Thread Greg Cope

Matt Sergeant wrote:
 
 I've put my report on the OSS/Perl conference online for all to
 see. Hopefully you'll find it vaguely interesting in parts. Its at
 http://modperl.sergeant.org/oss-conf-report.txt

Thanks Mat - much appreciated.

It seems difficult to get a concise view of what people are playing with
(not only Doug's MPM threaded model, DBI connection pools, but now
hotspot style op code removal ...) development wide - without
subscribing to loads of lists, and even then there is on guarantee  of
any news!

Sounds like a good time was had by all.

Thanks again for the resumee.

Greg Cope.


 
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Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-23 Thread Perrin Harkins

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:

 I've put my report on the OSS/Perl conference online for all to
 see. Hopefully you'll find it vaguely interesting in parts. Its at
 http://modperl.sergeant.org/oss-conf-report.txt

"On Wednesday I first went to Andy Wardley's Template Toolkit BOF where he
showed us briefly how it works, and then I told him I might add support to
AxKit for TT2"

Hey, I was thinking about that too!  TT seems like such a natural fit for
this, and it looked like it would be pretty easy to add.  I don't have
time to code it right now, but I know a fair amount about how to use TT
efficiently from mod_perl and I'd be happy to answer questions.

- Perrin