RE: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
Stas / Eric: Congratulations on a job well done! Paul E Wilt Senior Principal Software Engineer ProQuest Information and Learning - http://www.proquest.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 300 North Zeeb Rd Phone: (734) 302-6777 Ann Arbor, MI 48106Fax: (734) 302-6779 - -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out! well, the (long) wait is now over - Practical mod_perl is here. weighing in at a whopping 924 pages, Practical mod_perl really needs no introduction for those that are already familiar with the mod_perl Guide. however, from the ORA catalog description: From writing and debugging scripts to keeping your server running without failures, the techniques in this book will help you squeeze every ounce of power out of your server. True to its title, this is the practical guide to mod_perl. O'Reilly has a sample chapter online http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pmodperl/chapter/ch06.pdf the book's official website is http://www.modperlbook.org/ where you will find links to ways to purchse the book. kudos Stas and Eric! --Geoff
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
Geoffrey Young wrote: well, the (long) wait is now over - Practical mod_perl is here. weighing in at a whopping 924 pages, Practical mod_perl really needs no introduction for those that are already familiar with the mod_perl Guide. however, from the ORA catalog description: From writing and debugging scripts to keeping your server running without failures, the techniques in this book will help you squeeze every ounce of power out of your server. True to its title, this is the practical guide to mod_perl. O'Reilly has a sample chapter online http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pmodperl/chapter/ch06.pdf the book's official website is http://www.modperlbook.org/ where you will find links to ways to purchse the book. kudos Stas and Eric! --Geoff I have a mod_perl book but I am looking forward to one that includes mod_perl. I believe, corporate IT should take a serious look at using mod_perl. It is time for the heads to come out of the sand. I am interested in creating a presentation for my employer. I need information that reeks (yes I want it to stink) with credibility. Any pointers in this regard is welcome.
RE: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
well, the (long) wait is now over - Practical mod_perl is here. Geoff, you might be the best person to ask and it might be a worthwhile extension to the mod_perl-documentation: why would one use this new book if (s)he has the mod_perl cookbook already. I am not trying to set a new war between authors here, but wouldn't it be an idea to have such a 'review', giving interested users an idea of what they could buy? On one of my shopping sprees I bought 'Perl in a nutshell' and not that much later the Camel-book, only to find that I can put the nutshell far away as I never read it (sorry author). This experience is holding me back a bit when it is about buying a new book that covers the same subject as another book. Hope you can help us! --Frank
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
Frank Maas wrote: well, the (long) wait is now over - Practical mod_perl is here. Geoff, you might be the best person to ask and it might be a worthwhile extension to the mod_perl-documentation: why would one use this new book if (s)he has the mod_perl cookbook already. that's a valid question. the way I look at things is like this. mod_perl is in a very unique position. of the three substantial books available on mod_perl, all are useful and authoritative, and all overlap very, very little. for the most part, I would say that the eagle book is best viewed as the main API reference for mod_perl - (almost) all the API functions are explained and illustrated there. it's also a good introductory text on basic Apache functionality and how mod_perl ties into Apache. I think everyone would agree that to do mod_perl you need to own the eagle book. the cookbook tries to show what having the C Apache API at your fingertips really means to Perl programmers. for the most part, it gives lots of examples of using (and abusing) the mod_perl API as a means to extending (and contorting) Apache. there is very little there, for instance, on running and configuring a server, but lots there on programming the deepest recesses of the server. practical mod_perl I think is more of an overall guide to deploying mod_perl services - everything from basic setup and coding to advanced configurations and performance techniques. essentially an overhauled, reworked, and polished Guide, this book has been in the works for a long time, and it contains very valuable information you won't find anywhere else. as I said, you'll find very little overlap between the different books. I know I tried very hard not to duplicate information that you could simply find in the eagle book, and I had advance knowledge of what was in the new book, so I tried not to duplicate information available there either. Stas and Eric I'm sure did the same. I am not trying to set a new war between authors here actually, we're all very much on friendly terms, so a war isn't likely. despite writing through different publishers, we all have the same idea - namely, to promote mod_perl and help document it as best we can. I know that's not something you find in open source every day, but you'll find us all drinking together at OSCon again this year :) --Geoff
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 16:10, Geoffrey Young wrote: I know that's not something you find in open source every day, but you'll find us all drinking together at OSCon again this year :) Stas will be drinking cranberry juice, but still drinking. Congratulations on the publication, Eric and Stas! - Perrin
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
Geoffrey Young wrote: Frank Maas wrote: well, the (long) wait is now over - Practical mod_perl is here. Geoff, you might be the best person to ask and it might be a worthwhile extension to the mod_perl-documentation: why would one use this new book if (s)he has the mod_perl cookbook already. that's a valid question. the way I look at things is like this. mod_perl is in a very unique position. of the three substantial books available on mod_perl, all are useful and authoritative, and all overlap very, very little. for the most part, I would say that the eagle book is best viewed as the main API reference for mod_perl - (almost) all the API functions are explained and illustrated there. it's also a good introductory text on basic Apache functionality and how mod_perl ties into Apache. I think everyone would agree that to do mod_perl you need to own the eagle book. the cookbook tries to show what having the C Apache API at your fingertips really means to Perl programmers. for the most part, it gives lots of examples of using (and abusing) the mod_perl API as a means to extending (and contorting) Apache. there is very little there, for instance, on running and configuring a server, but lots there on programming the deepest recesses of the server. practical mod_perl I think is more of an overall guide to deploying mod_perl services - everything from basic setup and coding to advanced configurations and performance techniques. essentially an overhauled, reworked, and polished Guide, this book has been in the works for a long time, and it contains very valuable information you won't find anywhere else. as I said, you'll find very little overlap between the different books. I know I tried very hard not to duplicate information that you could simply find in the eagle book, and I had advance knowledge of what was in the new book, so I tried not to duplicate information available there either. Stas and Eric I'm sure did the same. I have very little to add to this perfect explanation, other than you really need to have all 3 books on your bookshelf to have a complete mod_perl 1.0 reference. Oh, and Geoff forgot to mention that Practical mod_perl includes two chapters on mod_perl 2.0. I am not trying to set a new war between authors here actually, we're all very much on friendly terms, so a war isn't likely. despite writing through different publishers, we all have the same idea - namely, to promote mod_perl and help document it as best we can. I know that's not something you find in open source every day, but you'll find us all drinking together at OSCon again this year :) Yup, and having 746+600+924=2270 pages of pure mod_perl material, sans index and TOC, in the book stores is a good thing for mod_perl promotion! __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
Geoffrey Young wrote: well, the (long) wait is now over - Practical mod_perl is here. weighing in at a whopping 924 pages, Practical mod_perl really needs no introduction for those that are already familiar with the mod_perl Guide. however, from the ORA catalog description: From writing and debugging scripts to keeping your server running without failures, the techniques in this book will help you squeeze every ounce of power out of your server. True to its title, this is the practical guide to mod_perl. O'Reilly has a sample chapter online http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pmodperl/chapter/ch06.pdf the book's official website is http://www.modperlbook.org/ where you will find links to ways to purchse the book. A few days later we will put more information on the site, including the source code. Eric is working on it as you read this. kudos Stas and Eric! Thanks Geoff! __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Practical mod_perl is out!
Ranga Nathan wrote: I have a mod_perl book but I am looking forward to one that includes mod_perl. I believe, corporate IT should take a serious look at using mod_perl. It is time for the heads to come out of the sand. I am interested in creating a presentation for my employer. I need information that reeks (yes I want it to stink) with credibility. Any pointers in this regard is welcome. Archives include quite a few rich threads on mod_perl advocacy: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html#Searchable_Archives http://perl.apache.org/maillist/advocacy.html#Searchable_Archives We have this page: http://perl.apache.org/docs/general/advocacy/advocacy.html#top But it certainly could be made much better. Patches are welcome. __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
