Re: [OT] Client Certificate Authentification module?

2001-03-14 Thread Adam Worrall

 "KV" == Kees Vonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

KV I am looking for a module that will allow me to use Client
KV Certificates to authenticate the users. I am pretty sure I have
KV come accros this before, but I cannot find it anywhere. Anybody
KV know where I can find this.

This is an apache / mod_ssl configuration issue:

  http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_howto.html#ToC6

I'm not aware of any mod_perl API into the SSL stuff.

I've got live configuration of a setup that uses this stuff, so mail me
if you get stuck ...

 - Adam




Re: [OT] Client Certificate Authentification module?

2001-03-13 Thread Gunther Birznieks

If you download our Perl objects @ 
http://www.extropia.com/development/webware2/webware2.html, I have an 
AuthManager::Certificate which implements client certificate authentication.

Probably the best place to download the code for that is on the 
extropiaperl project at sourceforge if you want to see the implementation.

It's actually "trivial" because mod_ssl will decode the certificate into 
extra environment variables indicating stuff like the DN of the user. It's 
a requirement of SSL to make sure the certificate is valid based on the 
certificate's signature(s). At that point, then you need to deal with 
certificate revocation which is another matter. A lot of servers back up 
certificate authentication with LDAP.

So the client sends the cert which verifies that they are who they say they 
are, but LDAP needs to be used to actually get the relevant authorization 
information out. If you use the framework we have, that is accomplished by 
configuring the use of AuthManager::Certificate against Auth::LDAP. 
Auth::Cache::Session can optionally be used to speed up the process. 
Chapter 20 on the link I gave you has details on why we broke up the 
modules the way we did.

Note that this is not to be confused with a handler. This is application 
level logic. mod_ssl already handles certificate decoding so you really 
don't need a handler anymore. At that point it seems like app logic to take 
the user and figure out what you want them to do.

Of course, you can code authorization info into a cert like the roles that 
they are intended for. But I think that's IMHO, a really BAD way to do it 
because you have to revoke the cert to change the permissions of the user. 
Best to leave the cert to identify the user and allow a dynamic datastore 
to determine what they can do in most cases.

Later,
 Gunther

PS The hard part about client certificates isn't using them, its managing 
them and the customers that use them.

At 11:00 AM 3/13/01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking for a module that will allow me to use Client
Certificates to authenticate the users. I am pretty sure I have come
accros this before, but I cannot find it anywhere. Anybody know where
I can find this.

I have seached CPAN for 'cert', 'authen' and 'client', but unless I
am overlooking something there doesn't seem to be anything there.

Thank you very much.

Kees Vonk

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Re: [OT] Client Certificate Authentification module?

2001-03-13 Thread James G Smith

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking for a module that will allow me to use Client 
Certificates to authenticate the users. I am pretty sure I have come 
accros this before, but I cannot find it anywhere. Anybody know where 
I can find this.

I have seached CPAN for 'cert', 'authen' and 'client', but unless I 
am overlooking something there doesn't seem to be anything there.

You might want to look at mod_ssl and OpenSSL.  They can mimic basic 
authentication with client certificates.
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James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], 979-862-3725
Texas AM CIS Operating Systems Group, Unix