RE: mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-10 Thread Mark Coffman

Aside from being an interesting fact, how does this affect us?  I mean, as
mod_perl developers?

I can't imagine that mod_perl will ever be the major scripting language
since it, by nature, is unrestrictive.  On a multi-user/multi-host server, I
think I'd rather PHP be run than mod_perl, simply because I don't want sites
stepping on each other's toes and have to worry about restarting httpd.  I
don't know.  I don't see it overtaking less-powerful (more restrictive)
languages, at least in numbers.  Now, if these numbers are generated by
looking at high-profile websites, then I'll buy the importance of the
percentages.

Regardless, thanks for the report.  It was cool to see just how many servers
have good admin's behind them :)





Re: mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-10 Thread Rodney Broom

From: Ilya Martynov [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IM (frankly Safe.pm is a joke).

Now this thread has taken my interest. Ilya, would you care to expound on this 
statement? I'm planning to use Safe in production soon.

---
Rodney Broom
President, R.Broom Consulting
http://www.rbroom.com/





Re: mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-10 Thread Perrin Harkins

Mark Coffman wrote:
 I can't imagine that mod_perl will ever be the major scripting language
 since it, by nature, is unrestrictive.  On a multi-user/multi-host server, I
 think I'd rather PHP be run than mod_perl, simply because I don't want sites
 stepping on each other's toes and have to worry about restarting httpd.

Isn't PHP just as dangerous as mod_perl when run in the server process 
(as opposed to CGI mode) on a multi-user virtual host server?

- Perrin





Re: mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-10 Thread Ilya Martynov

 On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:14:32 -0400, Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

PH Mark Coffman wrote:
 I can't imagine that mod_perl will ever be the major scripting language
 since it, by nature, is unrestrictive.  On a multi-user/multi-host server, I
 think I'd rather PHP be run than mod_perl, simply because I don't want sites
 stepping on each other's toes and have to worry about restarting httpd.

PH Isn't PHP just as dangerous as mod_perl when run in the server process
PH (as opposed to CGI mode) on a multi-user virtual host server?

As I understand PHP have better support for sandboxing than Perl
(frankly Safe.pm is a joke).

-- 
Ilya Martynov (http://martynov.org/)



Re: mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-10 Thread Ilya Martynov

 On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:53:50 -0700, Rodney Broom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

RB From: Ilya Martynov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IM (frankly Safe.pm is a joke).

RB Now this thread has taken my interest. Ilya, would you care to
RB expound on this statement? I'm planning to use Safe in production
RB soon.

Try to implement something that works with database and files inside
of Safe compartment. Either you will have to allow too much or your
code will not work because of restrictions.

Somewhat related reading:

http://www.perlmonks.com/index.pl?node_id=166096

-- 
Ilya Martynov (http://martynov.org/)



Re: mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-10 Thread Rodney Broom

From: Ilya Martynov [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Try to implement something that works with database and files inside
 of Safe compartment.

Ah, yes. I can definately see that.


---
Rodney Broom
President, R.Broom Consulting
http://www.rbroom.com/





mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-06 Thread Geoffrey Young

hi all...

   just FYI... mod_perl use seems to be dramatically on the rise 
again.  here'are the statistics for August from security space:

perl
august: %36.83
july:   %30.79
change: %19.64

PHP
august: %38.59
july:   %40.03
change: %-3.62

https://secure1.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200208/apachemods.html

--Geoff




Re: mod_perl statistics on securityspace.com

2002-09-06 Thread Chris

 hi all...
 
just FYI... mod_perl use seems to be dramatically on the rise 
 again.  here'are the statistics for August from security space:
 
 perl
 august: %36.83
 july:   %30.79
 change: %19.64
 
 PHP
 august: %38.59
 july:   %40.03
 change: %-3.62
 
 https://secure1.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200208/apachemods.html
 
 --Geoff

Check the month before, I believe this is at least the second month in a 
row this trend has occured. I'm happy someone noticed.

-Chris