Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
Geoffrey Young wrote: Yes, it is a pre-release version. The point is that it is stable enough to use in an enterprise (fortune 500 company) application. Is stable a reference to crashing or changes in the API ? I'm using a later version, 1.99_16, because the version that shipped with FC2, 1.99_12, was missing APIs (something to do with buckets) that are referred to on the modperl website and that i was trying to use. wrt API stability, recent 1.99_XX releases are very close to the way the official 2.0 release will look. those things that will change (either pre- or post-2.0) are APIs that the vast majority of people won't ever need. wrt "crashing"-type stability, mp2 is as stable as we can make it without people actually using it and finding things that only a real-world deployment can find. but we have had very few (any?) reports of random segfaults or crashes from those who have deployed it, so I guess we're doing something right :) The current cvs (1.99_17-tobe) has a few API changes since 1.99_16, and with that it's about 99.5% API complete: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/modperl-2.0/todo/api_status?view=markup So 1.99_17 will probably be what 2.0.0 will be, API-wise. We will ship a 2.0 release candidate really soon now. There are still a few complex problems that need to be resolved, which hold back the release. If you wish you can take a look at the todo list for the release and help if you can: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/modperl-2.0/todo/release?view=markup We will have 1.99_17 released soonish. -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH --> Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
RE: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Darwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:00 PM > To: Scott Fagg > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2? > > I'm using a > > later version, 1.99_16, because the version that shipped with FC2, > > 1.99_12, was missing APIs (something to do with buckets) that are > > referred to on the modperl website and that i was trying to use. > > 1.99_12 was missing stuff I needed as well. > > Everything I need seems to be in 1.99_14 except a fix for a bug > related to merging of Perl configuration sections, which I > reported to > this list. Now that you mentioned it, that's holding me up too. I had some global stuff in httpd.conf, and local stuff in .htaccess, and i'm only seeing some of the settings. > > -- > Matthew Darwin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.mdarwin.ca > > -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
RE: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
> -Original Message- > From: Geoffrey Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:57 PM > To: Scott Fagg > Cc: Matthew Darwin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2? > > > >>Yes, it is a pre-release version. The point is that it is stable > >>enough to use in an enterprise (fortune 500 company) application. > > > > > > Is stable a reference to crashing or changes in the API ? > I'm using a > > later version, 1.99_16, because the version that shipped with FC2, > > 1.99_12, was missing APIs (something to do with buckets) that are > > referred to on the modperl website and that i was trying to use. > > wrt API stability, recent 1.99_XX releases are very close to > the way the > official 2.0 release will look. those things that will > change (either pre- > or post-2.0) are APIs that the vast majority of people won't > ever need. > > wrt "crashing"-type stability, mp2 is as stable as we can > make it without > people actually using it and finding things that only a real-world > deployment can find. but we have had very few (any?) reports > of random > segfaults or crashes from those who have deployed it, so I > guess we're doing > something right :) My concern has only ever been with API-stability and the availability of the support modules (e.g. libapreq2). Once they appear stable, i'll start to move my mp1 code to mp2. I don't recall the last time mod_perl was the source of a crash. > > HTH > > --Geoff > > -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
Scott Fagg wrote: Yes, it is a pre-release version. The point is that it is stable enough to use in an enterprise (fortune 500 company) application. Is stable a reference to crashing or changes in the API ? Crashing. I'm using a later version, 1.99_16, because the version that shipped with FC2, 1.99_12, was missing APIs (something to do with buckets) that are referred to on the modperl website and that i was trying to use. 1.99_12 was missing stuff I needed as well. Everything I need seems to be in 1.99_14 except a fix for a bug related to merging of Perl configuration sections, which I reported to this list. -- Matthew Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdarwin.ca -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
>>Yes, it is a pre-release version. The point is that it is >>stable enough to use in an enterprise (fortune 500 company) >>application. > > > Is stable a reference to crashing or changes in the API ? I'm using a > later version, 1.99_16, because the version that shipped with FC2, > 1.99_12, was missing APIs (something to do with buckets) that are > referred to on the modperl website and that i was trying to use. wrt API stability, recent 1.99_XX releases are very close to the way the official 2.0 release will look. those things that will change (either pre- or post-2.0) are APIs that the vast majority of people won't ever need. wrt "crashing"-type stability, mp2 is as stable as we can make it without people actually using it and finding things that only a real-world deployment can find. but we have had very few (any?) reports of random segfaults or crashes from those who have deployed it, so I guess we're doing something right :) HTH --Geoff -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
RE: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Darwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:42 PM > To: Scott Fagg > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2? > > > > Scott Fagg wrote: > > >>Server: Apache/2.0.50 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.3 DAV/2 > > > > > > It would appear your using mp 1.99_14, which i thought was a > > pre-release version, and not the first official release of mp2? > > Yes, it is a pre-release version. The point is that it is > stable enough to use in an enterprise (fortune 500 company) > application. Is stable a reference to crashing or changes in the API ? I'm using a later version, 1.99_16, because the version that shipped with FC2, 1.99_12, was missing APIs (something to do with buckets) that are referred to on the modperl website and that i was trying to use. > > 1.99_14 was the latest available at the time the product went > into feature-freeze. > > -- > Matthew Darwin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.mdarwin.ca > > -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
Scott Fagg wrote: Server: Apache/2.0.50 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.3 DAV/2 It would appear your using mp 1.99_14, which i thought was a pre-release version, and not the first official release of mp2? Yes, it is a pre-release version. The point is that it is stable enough to use in an enterprise (fortune 500 company) application. 1.99_14 was the latest available at the time the product went into feature-freeze. -- Matthew Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdarwin.ca -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
RE: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Darwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:36 PM > To: Carl Brewer > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2? > > I'm using mp2 production now. > > http://demo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Server: Apache/2.0.50 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.3 DAV/2 It would appear your using mp 1.99_14, which i thought was a pre-release version, and not the first official release of mp2? > > > > Carl Brewer wrote: > > > > > > Hello Stas et al, > > Just a quick question; how far off a feature-freeze is MP2? > > ie: if I wanted to write a moderatly serious e-commerce app > in mp, is > > it safe to use mp2 and apreq2? > > > > thanks! > > > > Carl > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Matthew Darwin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.mdarwin.ca > > -- > Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: > http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html > List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html > > > -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
Re: [mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
I'm using mp2 production now. http://demo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Server: Apache/2.0.50 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.3 DAV/2 Carl Brewer wrote: Hello Stas et al, Just a quick question; how far off a feature-freeze is MP2? ie: if I wanted to write a moderatly serious e-commerce app in mp, is it safe to use mp2 and apreq2? thanks! Carl -- Matthew Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdarwin.ca -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
[mp2] how far off feature-freeze is mp2?
Hello Stas et al, Just a quick question; how far off a feature-freeze is MP2? ie: if I wanted to write a moderatly serious e-commerce app in mp, is it safe to use mp2 and apreq2? thanks! Carl -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
