Re: Perl not allowed here
Stas Bekman wrote: Evert Meulie wrote: Hi everyone! When trying to start Apache I get: Syntax error on line 376 of /usr/local/apache-freeside/conf/Apache-Freeside.conf: Perl not allowed here The relevant paragraph from Apache-Freeside.conf: PerlModule HTML::Mason Directory /usr/local/apache/htdocs/freeside-mason Files ~ (\.cgi) AddHandler perl-script .cgi PerlHandler HTML::Mason /Files Perl require /usr/local/etc/freeside/handler.pl; /Perl /Directory (the 'require' line is 376). This paragraph I've cut/pasted from: http://www.sisd.com/freeside/docs/install.html My apache version is: Apache/2.0.50 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.4 DAV/2 Is there anyone out there who can enlighten me? I'm lost... :-/ Evert, just take: Perl require /usr/local/etc/freeside/handler.pl; /Perl out of the directory container and it will work. Philippe, has the allowed placement of Perl sections changed in mp2? For now, Perl sections are still limited to server scope. I have a patch to open that up to OR_ALL (Location .htaccess and all) but I am not sure of exactly what behaviour a user would expect from a Perl section in a Location container. For example Location /foo Perl $Global::SomeVar = 'foo'; /Perl /Location Location /bar Perl $Global::SomeVar = 'bar'; /Perl /Location Would certainly _not_ behave like people might expect. See what I mean ? -- Philippe M. Chiasson m/gozer\@(apache|cpan|ectoplasm)\.org/ GPG KeyID : 88C3A5A5 http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/ F9BF E0C2 480E 7680 1AE5 3631 CB32 A107 88C3A5A5 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Perl not allowed here
out of the directory container and it will work. Philippe, has the allowed placement of Perl sections changed in mp2? yes. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl-devm=105370080722053w=2 but I'm sure that we have talked about it since then as well. --Geoff -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
Re: Perl not allowed here
Stas Bekman wrote: Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: [...] Philippe, has the allowed placement of Perl sections changed in mp2? For now, Perl sections are still limited to server scope. I have a patch to open that up to OR_ALL (Location .htaccess and all) but I am not sure of exactly what behaviour a user would expect from a Perl section in a Location container. For example Location /foo Perl $Global::SomeVar = 'foo'; /Perl /Location Location /bar Perl $Global::SomeVar = 'bar'; /Perl /Location Would certainly _not_ behave like people might expect. See what I mean ? True. I suppose in mp1 it was just running them all at the server startup, having the latest value override the previous, isn't it? Yup! So we should either keep it as it was in mp1, or make it DWIM. If we keep the mp1 behavior we ought to allow it everywhere, but document that it's not DWIM. How hard would it be to make it DWIM? I suppose one will need to stash code-refs into the dir/r struct and run them at request time, which won't work across threads, so the source will need to be stored. doesn't seem very effective to me. Yes, exactly! If it were a simple matter to get them to run per directory/ location, I might have tried it. It just doesn't seem like it would be worth spending time on implementing such a feature that, really, would just be misusing what Perl sections were for. One is ought to use the PerlHeaderParserHandler to accomplish DWIM in the example above. Yes, I was just making a bad example of what someone _might_ do. So I think it's the most sane to keep mp1's behavior. i.e.: - allow Perl everywhere Yes, and like I pointed out before, they would be executed for every requests in the .htaccess cases. - document that it's not DWIM (i.e. everythings is run at the server startup) +1 -- Philippe M. Chiasson m/gozer\@(apache|cpan|ectoplasm)\.org/ GPG KeyID : 88C3A5A5 http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/ F9BF E0C2 480E 7680 1AE5 3631 CB32 A107 88C3A5A5 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Perl not allowed here
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: Hmm, I think we ought to start with: - PerlModule, PerlRequire, Perl in .htaccess is missing http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10537008871r=1w=2 Owner: geoff Perl sections in .htaccess would be executed on every request, so that's quite DWIM. In other containers, like Location and others, on server startup only, so not DWIM at all. As long as this is clearly documented, I think it's fine. -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
Re: Perl not allowed here
Stas Bekman wrote: Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: Hmm, I think we ought to start with: - PerlModule, PerlRequire, Perl in .htaccess is missing http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10537008871r=1w=2 Owner: geoff Perl sections in .htaccess would be executed on every request, so that's quite DWIM. In other containers, like Location and others, on server startup only, so not DWIM at all. As long as this is clearly documented, I think it's fine. Unless geoff takes this one, I'll take care of it by tomorrow. -- Philippe M. Chiasson m/gozer\@(apache|cpan|ectoplasm)\.org/ GPG KeyID : 88C3A5A5 http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/ F9BF E0C2 480E 7680 1AE5 3631 CB32 A107 88C3A5A5 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Perl not allowed here
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: Unless geoff takes this one, I'll take care of it by tomorrow. it's all yours :) --Geoff -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List etiquette: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/email-etiquette.html
