framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread pennyyh

I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP 
applications?

thanks.

--penny


Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf Schaufelberger
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2008 17:52:58 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications?
> thanks.
>
> --penny

I'm using HTML::Mason and  MasonX::WebApp along with DBIx::Class as the main 
parts of my framwork. 
MasonX::WebApp allows (but does not force)  me, to put my logic in .pm files 
and keep my mason components free from business logic , yet not entirely free 
from perl code, This is why I like it, I can still do small and simple things 
in my components and put my important stuff in .pm files.
Noting to mention about DBIx::Class, either you like OR-Wrappers or not, but I 
would recommend it strongly. 
Session mgmt comes with MasonX::WebApp
Internationalisation is done with Locale::Maketext,
Logging with Log4perl, that's it. Switched from apache1 to apache2 recently 
with not too much trouble and I'm quite happy with this!

For performance issues I'm running a lightweight frontend apche and a 
mod_perl-apache as reverse proxy for the backend (as described in mod_perl 
book).


Rolf Schaufelberger
www.mypxler.com


Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread Fred Moyer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP 
applications?

thanks.

--penny


Apache::Dispatch (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Apache-Dispatch) is on 
lightweight end of the spectrum, one step removed from writing your 
application using PerlResponseHandlers.  I'm not sure it qualifies as a 
framework though, maybe just a request framework.  It has been measured 
as almost as fast as straight response handlers (assuming that hasn't 
changed from 0.09 to 0.10).


Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread W. Tyler Gee
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Fred Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
>> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
>> applications?
>> thanks.

My understanding is that Catalyst is as light as you want it to be.
What is 'heavy' about it?  What are you looking for in a framework?

>>
>> --penny
>
> Apache::Dispatch (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Apache-Dispatch) is on
> lightweight end of the spectrum, one step removed from writing your
> application using PerlResponseHandlers.  I'm not sure it qualifies as a
> framework though, maybe just a request framework.  It has been measured as
> almost as fast as straight response handlers (assuming that hasn't changed
> from 0.09 to 0.10).
>



-- 
~Tyler


Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread Foo JH
Most will argue that it's not considered a framework per se, but I like 
HTML::Template. It's more of a templating engine really.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP 
applications?

thanks.

--penny




Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread Michael Peters

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.


Catalyst is big because of all the things it can do. If you want all of 
that stuff for free you need a big framework.


Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP 
applications?


I prefer CGI::Application. Just ignore the name, it works just peachy 
under mod_perl. It's a very simple framework by itself and has lots of 
plugins to give you things like sessions, configuration, form 
validation, etc.


--
Michael Peters
Plus Three, LP



Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread Jeff Nokes
I like Mason a lot (HTML::Mason).  We use Mason mostly for it's component 
execution chain, attributes, subexec, and a few other features.  Also, we don't 
use Mason's template features at all, we choose to use HTML::Template for that.

My $0.02,
- Jeff

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Subject: framework for modperl applications

I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP 
applications?
thanks.

--penny



Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-17 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications?

http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html

- Perrin


Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-18 Thread Mark Hedges

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use. Other than
> Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications? thanks.

You could help me debug Apache2::Controller.  It is still
unstable and incomplete, though.  YAAF.  --mark--


Re: framework for modperl applications

2008-07-24 Thread Aaron Trevena
2008/7/17 Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
>> applications?
>
> http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html

I would also suggest :

http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?web_frameworks

A.

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