mirror.html is full of dead links
Ask, should we delete http://perl.apache.org/mirror.html? what's the point of having a bunch of dead links? _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
[preview 1] new mod_perl site concept
OK, I've started playing with template toolkit docs build system. This what I've got from using ttree script. This is very incomplete as I intend to try to adopt the docs build system used by TT. http://www.apache.org/~stas/newsite/ The cool thing is that it uses a Splash library, where you can define and use nice widgets, change colors, etc. See http://www.template-toolkit.org/splash/ TT is very extensible and scalable, so I hope it'll be a good choice. I'm looking at its POD2 (HTML|PS|PDF) builder... Notice that I've just taken a few pages together, but let me know what you think. _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
Re: [preview 1] new mod_perl site concept
Stas Bekman writes: > Notice that I've just taken a few pages together, but let me know what > you think. Nice. I assume that we're at the stage of criticising the design and not the text/ (I'd like you to use the text I came up with for my experiment at http://24.255.234.11/~gnat/modperl/). I have some questions: * why have a splash screen? They're an incredible waste of time. I've not heard a single word in favour of them. * I prefer a nav bar on the left-hand side to tabs. Does splash handle that? The way the tabs 'nest' is really ugly. * blue on blue at the bottom for the http://perl.apache.org/ link is almost unreadable Thanks for making progress on this! Nat
Re: [preview 1] new mod_perl site concept
I forgot to link to the source, which is the most important so you can see how components work: http://www.apache.org/~stas/newsite.tgz Stas Bekman wrote: > OK, I've started playing with template toolkit docs build system. This > what I've got from using ttree script. This is very incomplete as I > intend to try to adopt the docs build system used by TT. > > > http://www.apache.org/~stas/newsite/ > > The cool thing is that it uses a Splash library, where you can define > and use nice widgets, change colors, etc. See > http://www.template-toolkit.org/splash/ > > TT is very extensible and scalable, so I hope it'll be a good choice. > I'm looking at its POD2 (HTML|PS|PDF) builder... > > Notice that I've just taken a few pages together, but let me know what > you think. > > _ > Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker > http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com > http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/ > -- _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
Re: [preview 1] new mod_perl site concept
Nathan Torkington wrote: > Stas Bekman writes: > >>Notice that I've just taken a few pages together, but let me know what >>you think. >> email at apache.org is slow :( > Nice. I assume that we're at the stage of criticising the design and > not the text/ (I'd like you to use the text I came up with for my > experiment at http://24.255.234.11/~gnat/modperl/). Sure, you've sent me this by email :) I didn't apply it yet. You don't even have to critisize the design, since I'm not a designer. What I've done is deploying template toolkit to build the site as the component framework. Now if you want it to be different, it's *all* can be changed. The only difference to your proposal that you've sent earlier is that I want re-usable elements and not having to update tens of pages if we change a menu or a header. > I have some questions: > > * why have a splash screen? They're an incredible waste of time. I've >not heard a single word in favour of them. I know, this will be gone. I've played with a simple ttree script from TT2, but now I'm looking at much more advanced documentation build framework that Andy Wardley uses for creating TT site. That's why I don't even going to fix that now. I want to see if I can use it for the site and for the mod_perl docs. I want things like automatic pod translation and more. > * I prefer a nav bar on the left-hand side to tabs. Does splash handle >that? The way the tabs 'nest' is really ugly. sure, that's easy to fix. Every element is a component (widget). just fix the existing component your way or write a new one and you are on your way. I'll do that at a later stage. The cool thing is that you don't have to change anything else, just change the menu widget and voila it on the left as a column. > * blue on blue at the bottom for the http://perl.apache.org/ link is >almost unreadable Yup, I know :) > Thanks for making progress on this! :) The only thing I want to get your comments so far is whether it's ok to split the current long pages into many small ones. For example you can see that I've split the download into a few small ones. I plan the same for mailing lists: a page per mailing list. We will do the design later. The build system I'm trying to find/setup would be counted as perfect for us, if we can do the design at a later stage, without changing the spreading of the content. Another cool thing I want to achieve is an integration between the site's content and the documentation, so they will look the same and won't change the navigation. So I'm trying to work on the two in parallel. _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
