Re: issuing certificate

2001-10-24 Thread Murali K. Vemuri


hi, i made the certificate and could get the certificate on the display.
my actual problem is something like this.
I have a http server for my intranet. And I have 4 users as of
now.
with the present certificate, only one user can get through and i want
to be able to issue
different certificates to each individual user. Now, I wish to
know these things:
1. how will i generate certificate-bundle?
2. How can I make sure that a particular certificate goes to a
particular user only? Is there anything like binding a certificate to a
particular host or IP address or a particular mail id ? <>
3. Can i automate the process of issuing certificates? << i.e.,
if any IP address database can be made where i can specify the hosts
who can have certificates issued to themand the first time the particular
host contacts the server, server will automatically generate the certificate
for the client by asking him for all the details>>
regards
murali krishna vemuri
Owen Boyle wrote:
"Murali K. Vemuri" wrote:
>
> hi,
> i could make a certificate in the way given by you.
> i copied the .crt and .key files into /etc/httpd/conf/ssl.crt/server.crt
and
> ../ssl.key/server.key respectively and then restarted the httpd.
> after that i set the multi.crt ( i created like this instead of your
suggested
> kiwi.crt) and multi.key
> paths in the httpd conf file in the /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file
.
> i am attaching the relevant portions of the httpd.conf file here.
> now, to test whether my certificate works or not, i typed
> openssl -x509 -noout -text -in multi.crt
> i observe that the certificate is same as was generted by me.
> but, when i open netscape and type https://yogi
(it is my host name), i get the
> same old certificate
> which is "snake oil ' etc.
> can some one tell me how i can get rid of that "snake oil" certificate
for ever ?
Double-double-check the path leads to the correct file, i.e. do:
openssl -x509 -noout -text -in /etc/httpd/conf/ssl.crt/multi.crt
If this is correct then the problem must be caching in the browser.
Click on the security icon and delete any certificates you have already
accepted.
> is there any documentation available out there?
http://www.modssl.org/ and click
on "Documents"...
Rgds,
Owen Boyle.
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Re: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread David Rees

On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 05:38:40PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
> Sorry, I have the same situation after using those config lines. I had seen
> them on the mailing list before, but just to be sure I've just retested
> them. No change. Same symptoms and solutions...

And you do have a ssl session cache defined?

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Re: Modssl on Openbsd 2.9

2001-10-24 Thread Doug Dalton

SSL doesnt function


Doug Dalton wrote:

> The problem is that SSL function.
>
> R/Doug
>
> Peter Morelli wrote:
>
> > Those don't look like errors, just notices, or informational events. The
> > first one is apache shutting down, looks like from a kill command. The
> > second is Apache starting up again. No idea on the third. I get the first to
> > all the time in my error_log...
> >
> > --pete
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Doug Dalton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:41 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Modssl on Openbsd 2.9
> >
> > Any idea why this error is occuring?
> >
> > [Wed Oct 24 15:45:29 2001] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
> > [Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.5
> > OpenSSL
> > /0.9.6b configured -- resuming normal operations
> > [Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Accept mutex: flock (Default: flock)
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Re: Modssl on Openbsd 2.9

2001-10-24 Thread Doug Dalton

The problem is that SSL function.

R/Doug

Peter Morelli wrote:

> Those don't look like errors, just notices, or informational events. The
> first one is apache shutting down, looks like from a kill command. The
> second is Apache starting up again. No idea on the third. I get the first to
> all the time in my error_log...
>
> --pete
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Dalton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Modssl on Openbsd 2.9
>
> Any idea why this error is occuring?
>
> [Wed Oct 24 15:45:29 2001] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
> [Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.5
> OpenSSL
> /0.9.6b configured -- resuming normal operations
> [Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Accept mutex: flock (Default: flock)
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RE: Modssl on Openbsd 2.9

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Morelli

Those don't look like errors, just notices, or informational events. The
first one is apache shutting down, looks like from a kill command. The
second is Apache starting up again. No idea on the third. I get the first to
all the time in my error_log...

--pete

-Original Message-
From: Doug Dalton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Modssl on Openbsd 2.9


Any idea why this error is occuring?

[Wed Oct 24 15:45:29 2001] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.5
OpenSSL
/0.9.6b configured -- resuming normal operations
[Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Accept mutex: flock (Default: flock)



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Modssl on Openbsd 2.9

2001-10-24 Thread Doug Dalton

Any idea why this error is occuring?

[Wed Oct 24 15:45:29 2001] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.8.5
OpenSSL
/0.9.6b configured -- resuming normal operations
[Wed Oct 24 15:47:12 2001] [notice] Accept mutex: flock (Default: flock)



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RE: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Morelli

Sorry, I have the same situation after using those config lines. I had seen
them on the mailing list before, but just to be sure I've just retested
them. No change. Same symptoms and solutions...

--pete 

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From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:03 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: MSIE POST problem


On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:47:11PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
> I've done a little more testing, and it seems like turning OFF the "Show
> friendly http error pages" option in MSIE allows apache/mod_ssl to
downgrade
> the connection to HTTP/1.0 correctly. Turning it back on again leads to a
> situation where it is NOT downgraded, and you get the "server not found"
> page. Again, this is only for file uploads.

It seems that recent versions (5.x+) of MSIE don't like being downgrade to
HTTP/1.0.

Try this config in place of your current SetEnvIf or BrowserMatch directive:

BrowserMatch "MSIE [1-4]" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown downgrade-1.0
force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch "MSIE [5-9]" ssl-unclean-shutdown

You may be able to get away without having the second line entirely, but I
haven't tested it myself.  Let us know how it works out.

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Re: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread David Rees

On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:47:11PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
> I've done a little more testing, and it seems like turning OFF the "Show
> friendly http error pages" option in MSIE allows apache/mod_ssl to downgrade
> the connection to HTTP/1.0 correctly. Turning it back on again leads to a
> situation where it is NOT downgraded, and you get the "server not found"
> page. Again, this is only for file uploads.

It seems that recent versions (5.x+) of MSIE don't like being downgrade to
HTTP/1.0.

Try this config in place of your current SetEnvIf or BrowserMatch directive:

BrowserMatch "MSIE [1-4]" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown downgrade-1.0 
force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch "MSIE [5-9]" ssl-unclean-shutdown

You may be able to get away without having the second line entirely, but I
haven't tested it myself.  Let us know how it works out.

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RE: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Morelli

I've done a little more testing, and it seems like turning OFF the "Show
friendly http error pages" option in MSIE allows apache/mod_ssl to downgrade
the connection to HTTP/1.0 correctly. Turning it back on again leads to a
situation where it is NOT downgraded, and you get the "server not found"
page. Again, this is only for file uploads.

--pete

-Original Message-
From: Peter Morelli 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:59 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: MSIE POST problem


I'm having quite a perplexing problem, and I was hoping someone could give
me a hint here on this list.

First, my environment:
- Solaris 2.6
- Apache 1.3.20
- modssl 2.8.4
- openssl 0.9.6b
- Weblogic 5.1
- MSIE 5.5 sp1

I'm using apache to frontend WebLogic through a BEA provided module.

My problem:
It seems similar to some of the archived posts on this list as well as a
section of the FAQ, as it is the "Server not found" error from MSIE. I start
out with a form retrieved over regular HTTP, and post a file upload to a
HTTPS URL. However, even after enabling the various fixes (SetEnvIf to
downgrade, etc) detailed in the FAQ and past posts, it still doesn't work. I
invariably get a server not found page. However, if I go to IE's
Tools->Internet Options->Advanced and uncheck "Show friendly HTTP error
messages", everything seems to work fine. Very weird.

The error posts never even show up in my apache or weblogic logs, though
after I turned the modssl log up to debug I can see some activity, and snoop
picks up the packets between machines.

Some other variables:
- I use self generated certificates, which generate an accept certificate
box in IE when it does work
- Non-standard ports: 8110 for http, 8115 for https, in a Virtual hosts. The
SetEnvIf downgrade is out in the main server config.
- When I do standard form posts (just fields) this problem rarely crops up,
if ever. 
- From the modssl debug logs, it looks like the multi-part form request
(file upload) establishes a regular ssl connection, which closes with a
standard shutdown, while a regular post does downgrade and uses an unclean
shutdown...

I have tried MANY different configurations, and I can't seem to get it to
work. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I'd rather not go back to
serving http with weblogic (which doesn't seem to have a problem with IE).

--peter

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MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Morelli

I'm having quite a perplexing problem, and I was hoping someone could give
me a hint here on this list.

First, my environment:
- Solaris 2.6
- Apache 1.3.20
- modssl 2.8.4
- openssl 0.9.6b
- Weblogic 5.1
- MSIE 5.5 sp1

I'm using apache to frontend WebLogic through a BEA provided module.

My problem:
It seems similar to some of the archived posts on this list as well as a
section of the FAQ, as it is the "Server not found" error from MSIE. I start
out with a form retrieved over regular HTTP, and post a file upload to a
HTTPS URL. However, even after enabling the various fixes (SetEnvIf to
downgrade, etc) detailed in the FAQ and past posts, it still doesn't work. I
invariably get a server not found page. However, if I go to IE's
Tools->Internet Options->Advanced and uncheck "Show friendly HTTP error
messages", everything seems to work fine. Very weird.

The error posts never even show up in my apache or weblogic logs, though
after I turned the modssl log up to debug I can see some activity, and snoop
picks up the packets between machines.

Some other variables:
- I use self generated certificates, which generate an accept certificate
box in IE when it does work
- Non-standard ports: 8110 for http, 8115 for https, in a Virtual hosts. The
SetEnvIf downgrade is out in the main server config.
- When I do standard form posts (just fields) this problem rarely crops up,
if ever. 
- From the modssl debug logs, it looks like the multi-part form request
(file upload) establishes a regular ssl connection, which closes with a
standard shutdown, while a regular post does downgrade and uses an unclean
shutdown...

I have tried MANY different configurations, and I can't seem to get it to
work. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I'd rather not go back to
serving http with weblogic (which doesn't seem to have a problem with IE).

--peter

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Re: New User: must be obvious question

2001-10-24 Thread ComCity

Thank you.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: New User: must be obvious question


> Hi Mike,
>
> the problem you are observing has a simple explanation. If you define
> -DSSL as argument for apachectl or configtest or httpd the according
> parts included in
>  ..  are executed. If not defined, they are
> ignored. Your LoadModule and AddModule statements are properly nested
> with IfDefines, but your VirtualHost for SSL (including mod_ssl
> directives like SSLEngine) seems not to be enclosed by IfDefine or
> IfModule.
> If you start your httpd with -DSSL this is no problem, because mod_ssl
> is loaded and interprets these directives. If you don't give -DSSL (as
> in your call of configtest) the Apache httpd does not load mod_ssl and
> does not understand directives like SSLEngine.
> To get rid of the error, you should encapsulate all directives that are
> available only  if a certain module is loaded into Apache with IfDefine
> or IfModule statements. For examples of this have a look in the
> standard httpd.conf in the conf directory of your Apache installation.
>
> > The commented lines have no effect in or out.  This was occuring long
before
> > these line comments were added.  I just added those recently to find
things
> > easier when editing the file to try with this issue.  I added these
comments
> > after the problem started...they where not there originally.  Without
the
> > comment lines, it simply shifts the line # where the error occurs.  I
have
> > always had
> > > LoadModule ssl_module modules/libssl.so
> >  in my httpd.conf but I do not have
> > AddModule mod_ssl.c.
> > However, upon adding this line AddModule mod_ssl.c, there was no effect.
> > Configtest gives the same error on the same line #.
> >
> > Is there some other way to restart apache when mod_ssl is installed.
After
> > all, you use apachectl startssl instead of apachectl start.  Is there an
> > apachectl restartssl?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mike
>
>
> With best regards
>
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Re: New User: must be obvious question

2001-10-24 Thread R. DuFresne


George,

Cool, thanks!  Very good description of the need for this statement and
the errors it might invovle if certain proceedures are taken to restart
httpd and such.  I guess the issue has never surfaced here as I have a
totally different proceedure for doing restarts after archiving logs and
such, but, it has enlightened me enough to go fix all my conf files should
someone need to replace me and invoke other means to the end.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Ron,
> 
> Apache does not load the source file mod_ssl.c. Therefore there is no 
> need for it to know where the source is.
> The filename (without path) is part of the module structure (coded in 
> by the define STANDARD_MODULE_STUFF) used to register handlers, 
> commands etc. of a module into the core httpd.
> 
> If you have a ClearModuleList directive in your httpd.conf and use 
> mod_ssl as DSO you will run into problems when you restart your httpd 
> often. See my former post ( http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modss
> l&m=100280794307819&w=2)
> 
> > Weird, for ssl does function without this statement at least on unix and
> > linux systems.  also weird in that mod_ssl.c never seems to move in the
> > source tree;
> > 
> > darkstar:/usr/local/apache/conf# locate mod_ssl.c
> > /usr/local/src/installed/web/apache_1.3.20/src/modules/ssl/mod_ssl.c
> > /usr/local/src/installed/web/mod_ssl-2.8.4-1.3.20/pkg.sslmod/mod_ssl.c
> > darkstar:/usr/local/apache/conf#
> > 
> > How does httpd find it for lading in addition to the ssl module?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ron DuFresne
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RE: New User: must be obvious question

2001-10-24 Thread John . Airey

Excuse me snipping all the old stuff, but I think I noticed from your logs
that you have managed to compile Apache 1.3.12 mod_ssl 2.6.6. against
openssl-0.9.6a, which in itself is quite an achievement. ie:

> [Tue Oct 23 11:52:05 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) PHP/4.0.5
> FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.6.6 OpenSSL/0.9.6a configured -- resuming
normal
> operations
> 

(I wouldn't imagine that such an old version of apache-mod_ssl would compile
against the latest openssl, and probably wouldn't ever try).

The latest version is Apache 1.3.22, mod_ssl 2.8.5 and openssl-0.9.6a, which
is definitely a good idea to upgrade to (notwithstanding that a number of
security issues with the Apache server are resolved, eg cross-site scripting
which is fixed from 1.3.14 onwards).

Getting back to the real issue, that of starting up a secure server.
Provided your Apache server has been compiled with ssl support, a valid
configuration file always gets a secure server up. (Of course, it is
possible to split your configuration file into multiple files if you host
hundreds or thousands of sites).

First of all, test that mod_ssl is compiled in using "httpd -l". You should
then get the following:

Compiled-in modules:
  http_core.c
  mod_so.c
suexec: enabled; valid wrapper /usr/sbin/suexec

You might get an error at the last line. I've never understood the suexec
part, and apparently it isn't important. 

Next, check that your server is listening to port 443 (because if it isn't
listening, it won't be able to receive secure connections). There should be
a line in your httpd.conf saying

Listen 443

There may be a 

Listen 80

which isn't actually required as there is a 

Port 80

That does exactly the same thing. But it might as well be left in for the
sake of completeness. Next, the mod_ssl module must be loaded into the
server. It is possible to run an apache-mod_ssl server without ssl support,
which is useful for debugging if nothing else. This is what the LoadModule
and AddModule lines do, and both are needed as IIRC Apache reads the module
list twice. If they are enclosed in  statements, then Apache
needs to be started with httpd -DSSL.

Finally, you'll need at least one virtual host listening on Port 443, with
at least these three extra lines defined:

SSLEngine on
SSLCertificateFile /path/to/ssl.crt
SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/to/ssl.key

(Non-SSL hosts need only SSLEngine off defined).

I have to admit that I rarely use "apachectl", preferring instead to use the
following where necessary:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd stop
/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start
/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart
/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd reload

The last one is the most useful, as it re-reads the configuration file
without dropping a single byte. It's useful for moving log files on the fly
or minor changes to the httpd.conf file.

There's no doubt that this stuff is hard (it's taken me years to get to
grips with it), but it's better that running NT any day! (Off Topic: I've
spent the last fortnight testing a single CD method of patching NT/IIS that
works for all the NT servers and workstations I support, yet the procedure
for updating our Linux boxes was written and completed in an afternoon.)

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Re: New User: must be obvious question

2001-10-24 Thread Owen Boyle

ComCity wrote:
> 
> Thank youAustin,Andy and Ron.  I thought the purpose of the list was to
> get helpI'm sorry if my question seemed stupid.  It was not my intention
> to post a stupid question in which I had not exhausted other resources or
> throughly looked at what I could find on this.  

I responded honestly and, I thought, helpfully to your problem.
Basically, if you get an error message you can be sure that an error has
occurred - it's no use telling us that there's nothing wrong with your
set-up. However, You chose to disregard my advice in a cheeky way: 

> Well that doesn't make a lot of sense

So I reserve the right to tell you to:

> Figure it out for yourself.

I appreciate that SSL can be tricky to set up and this list exists to
help people out but remember that all respondents are giving up their
time voluntarily and are under no obligation to you. You should have
some manners and treat them politely - even if they tell you something
you don't want to hear.

You are just another one of these guys who thinks they've set things up
correctly and can't be bothered checking properly. It is obvious you
have made a mistake in compilation, installation or configuration - the
alternative hypothesis is that you have uncovered a major bug which has
not surfaced before in a popular piece of software in use for years on
thousands of computers... 

Rgds,

Owen Boyle.
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