RE: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-25 Thread Peter Morelli

Yes, using the dmb version...

--pete

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From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 05:38:40PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
 Sorry, I have the same situation after using those config lines. I had
seen
 them on the mailing list before, but just to be sure I've just retested
 them. No change. Same symptoms and solutions...

And you do have a ssl session cache defined?

-Dave
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RE: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-25 Thread John . Airey

try the shm version, eg:

SSLSessionCacheshm:/var/run/ssl_scache(512000)

Seems to work better for everyone.

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From: Peter Morelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 16:37
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Subject: RE: MSIE POST problem


Yes, using the dmb version...

--pete

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From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:55 PM
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Subject: Re: MSIE POST problem


On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 05:38:40PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
 Sorry, I have the same situation after using those config 
lines. I had
seen
 them on the mailing list before, but just to be sure I've 
just retested
 them. No change. Same symptoms and solutions...

And you do have a ssl session cache defined?

-Dave
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RE: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-25 Thread Peter Morelli

I changed to shm from dbm, but it doesn't seem to solve my problem.

The thing I don't understand is why unselecting show friendly http error
pages somehow lets the form post be downgraded. Does apache use some sort
of redirect header to downgrade the request, and MSIE interprets that header
as an error?

--peter

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Subject: RE: MSIE POST problem


try the shm version, eg:

SSLSessionCacheshm:/var/run/ssl_scache(512000)

Seems to work better for everyone.

- 
John Airey
Internet systems support officer, ITCSD, Royal National Institute for the
Blind,
Bakewell Road, Peterborough PE2 6XU,
Tel.: +44 (0) 1733 375299 Fax: +44 (0) 1733 370848 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Peter Morelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 16:37
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Subject: RE: MSIE POST problem


Yes, using the dbm version...

--pete

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:55 PM
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Subject: Re: MSIE POST problem


On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 05:38:40PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
 Sorry, I have the same situation after using those config 
lines. I had
seen
 them on the mailing list before, but just to be sure I've 
just retested
 them. No change. Same symptoms and solutions...

And you do have a ssl session cache defined?

-Dave
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RE: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Morelli

I've done a little more testing, and it seems like turning OFF the Show
friendly http error pages option in MSIE allows apache/mod_ssl to downgrade
the connection to HTTP/1.0 correctly. Turning it back on again leads to a
situation where it is NOT downgraded, and you get the server not found
page. Again, this is only for file uploads.

--pete

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From: Peter Morelli 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:59 AM
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Subject: MSIE POST problem


I'm having quite a perplexing problem, and I was hoping someone could give
me a hint here on this list.

First, my environment:
- Solaris 2.6
- Apache 1.3.20
- modssl 2.8.4
- openssl 0.9.6b
- Weblogic 5.1
- MSIE 5.5 sp1

I'm using apache to frontend WebLogic through a BEA provided module.

My problem:
It seems similar to some of the archived posts on this list as well as a
section of the FAQ, as it is the Server not found error from MSIE. I start
out with a form retrieved over regular HTTP, and post a file upload to a
HTTPS URL. However, even after enabling the various fixes (SetEnvIf to
downgrade, etc) detailed in the FAQ and past posts, it still doesn't work. I
invariably get a server not found page. However, if I go to IE's
Tools-Internet Options-Advanced and uncheck Show friendly HTTP error
messages, everything seems to work fine. Very weird.

The error posts never even show up in my apache or weblogic logs, though
after I turned the modssl log up to debug I can see some activity, and snoop
picks up the packets between machines.

Some other variables:
- I use self generated certificates, which generate an accept certificate
box in IE when it does work
- Non-standard ports: 8110 for http, 8115 for https, in a Virtual hosts. The
SetEnvIf downgrade is out in the main server config.
- When I do standard form posts (just fields) this problem rarely crops up,
if ever. 
- From the modssl debug logs, it looks like the multi-part form request
(file upload) establishes a regular ssl connection, which closes with a
standard shutdown, while a regular post does downgrade and uses an unclean
shutdown...

I have tried MANY different configurations, and I can't seem to get it to
work. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I'd rather not go back to
serving http with weblogic (which doesn't seem to have a problem with IE).

--peter

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Re: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread David Rees

On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:47:11PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
 I've done a little more testing, and it seems like turning OFF the Show
 friendly http error pages option in MSIE allows apache/mod_ssl to downgrade
 the connection to HTTP/1.0 correctly. Turning it back on again leads to a
 situation where it is NOT downgraded, and you get the server not found
 page. Again, this is only for file uploads.

It seems that recent versions (5.x+) of MSIE don't like being downgrade to
HTTP/1.0.

Try this config in place of your current SetEnvIf or BrowserMatch directive:

BrowserMatch MSIE [1-4] nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown downgrade-1.0 
force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch MSIE [5-9] ssl-unclean-shutdown

You may be able to get away without having the second line entirely, but I
haven't tested it myself.  Let us know how it works out.

-Dave
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RE: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Morelli

Sorry, I have the same situation after using those config lines. I had seen
them on the mailing list before, but just to be sure I've just retested
them. No change. Same symptoms and solutions...

--pete 

-Original Message-
From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:03 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: MSIE POST problem


On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:47:11PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
 I've done a little more testing, and it seems like turning OFF the Show
 friendly http error pages option in MSIE allows apache/mod_ssl to
downgrade
 the connection to HTTP/1.0 correctly. Turning it back on again leads to a
 situation where it is NOT downgraded, and you get the server not found
 page. Again, this is only for file uploads.

It seems that recent versions (5.x+) of MSIE don't like being downgrade to
HTTP/1.0.

Try this config in place of your current SetEnvIf or BrowserMatch directive:

BrowserMatch MSIE [1-4] nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown downgrade-1.0
force-response-1.0
BrowserMatch MSIE [5-9] ssl-unclean-shutdown

You may be able to get away without having the second line entirely, but I
haven't tested it myself.  Let us know how it works out.

-Dave
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Re: MSIE POST problem

2001-10-24 Thread David Rees

On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 05:38:40PM -0700, Peter Morelli wrote:
 Sorry, I have the same situation after using those config lines. I had seen
 them on the mailing list before, but just to be sure I've just retested
 them. No change. Same symptoms and solutions...

And you do have a ssl session cache defined?

-Dave
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