Re: Which namespace for a build system?

2004-08-19 Thread khemir nadim
I'm going to polute witha new top level namespace! PBS::

Don't anyone have any idea of where we should put this type of modules?

Devel::
Devel::Build::
Build::
App::BuildSystem

I'd appreciate some input.

Cheers, Nadim.




Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-19 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 04:57:34PM -0500, Mark Stosberg wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 04:54:32PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
  I propose eliminating the Long Module List.  I'm talking about
  http://www.cpan.org/modules/00modlist.long.html (2998 modules), not
  http://www.cpan.org/modules/01modules.index.html (6800 modules).
 
 As a long time CPAN module author and user, I second this proposal.

Thirded, and in fact I proposed this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] last week but
hadn't followed up on it yet.  But I had intended to crusade for it, so
count me in.

K.

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Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-19 Thread Fergal Daly
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 05:24:57PM +0100, Jose Alves de Castro wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 16:47, Christopher Hicks wrote:
  On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Hugh S. Myers wrote:
  
   It seems to me that ANY thing that contributes to the solution set of 
   'How do I find the module I'm looking for?' needs to be kept until it 
   can be replaced with something of equal or greater value.
  
  search.cpan.org seems to be of greater value than the modules list 
  according to most of the people that have chimed in.
 
 Try asking beginners what they think. I believe it is easier for them to
 look at a long list of modules then searching for a specific one,
 particularly because they often don't know what they should be looking
 for.

The problem is that the list is missing many modules and in some cases it is
missing the right module for a particular job while listing other inferior
modules and since no one is adding to the list, this can only get worse.

 Anyway, I like to have a long list of modules to show my Java friends
 and say see?

If we had keywords you could just search on a keyword and show them that
list instead,

F



Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-19 Thread Jose Alves de Castro
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 17:35, Fergal Daly wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 05:24:57PM +0100, Jose Alves de Castro wrote:
  On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 16:47, Christopher Hicks wrote:
   On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Hugh S. Myers wrote:
   
It seems to me that ANY thing that contributes to the solution set of 
'How do I find the module I'm looking for?' needs to be kept until it 
can be replaced with something of equal or greater value.
   
   search.cpan.org seems to be of greater value than the modules list 
   according to most of the people that have chimed in.
  
  Try asking beginners what they think. I believe it is easier for them to
  look at a long list of modules then searching for a specific one,
  particularly because they often don't know what they should be looking
  for.
 
 The problem is that the list is missing many modules and in some cases it is
 missing the right module for a particular job while listing other inferior
 modules and since no one is adding to the list, this can only get worse.

I know that, but what I'm saying is Let's keep the list updated!

I had already volunteered to brian to do that, and by the same time this
whole thing of killing the list has exploded...

I agree with you all, I know the list is probably doing more harm then
good, but it wasn't like that years ago, and the only reason it is like
that now is that the list isn't being updated! If someone keeps it up to
date, I think it'll be a good thing for all of us once again.

  Anyway, I like to have a long list of modules to show my Java friends
  and say see?
 
 If we had keywords you could just search on a keyword and show them that
 list instead,

I don't want to show the results of a search. I want to say Here is the
link to the module list. See how long it is? It contains practically
everything you need, doesn't it?

And I also want to be able to look at the list and think of what other
things are still lacking...

 F
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RE: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-19 Thread Orton, Yves
Title: RE: Let's eliminate the Module List





 I agree with you all, I know the list is probably doing more harm then
 good, but it wasn't like that years ago, and the only reason it is like
 that now is that the list isn't being updated! If someone keeps it up to
 date, I think it'll be a good thing for all of us once again.


If someone keeps it up to date they wont be doing much else is the impression I get. Some things that work well for small communities just don't work well in large ones. It seems to me that the module list is one of them.

I personally would like to see it go.


Yves





Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-19 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Alves de Castro) writes:
 I don't want to show the results of a search. I want to say Here is the
 link to the module list. See how long it is? It contains practically
 everything you need, doesn't it?

http://www.cpan.org/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz

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Perspectives on a Namespace

2004-08-19 Thread Luis Tello
Hello,
My name is Luis.  I have been using a
module called DB_File::Lock for the past year on a
project.  I was asked by my employeer to develop a way
to remove data not associated with a hash in a dbm
file.  The objective was to streamline a dbm file
because using the remove function only removes the
hash and not the data associated to the hash.
I was successful in creating the module and now I
want to prepare it for distribution.  Under the advice
of the PAUSE page, I am asking for your perspective on
a namespace.  I was think DB_File::GarbageRemoval or
DBM::GarbageRemoval.  What do you think?

thanks,

Luis




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