Re: Delete hate speech module
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:12:44PM +, Steve Pitchford wrote: > Tim Maher wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:58:01AM -0800, alan wrote: > > > >>>On a more serious side, getting rid of it [Time::Cubic] should be > >>>pretty open and shut. CPAN is a public resource managed by private > >>>entities. > > > >I'm generally against the idea of censorship in all its forms, and > >/definitely/ against the idea of removing a Perl module from CPAN just > >because something *within the code* offended somebody--or even lots of > >somebodies! > > I'm not sure if you've read the module in question. Its not comments > within code, its a small meaningless piece of perl that achieves nothing > in an otherwise long rant. Hmm. While conveying my thoughts on this issue earlier, I relied on a characterization of Time::Cubic in an earlier posting that led me to believe that it was *comments within the module* that were offending people. The notion of policing those struck me as an unwarranted intrusion into the programmer's domain, which led to my spirited (albeit misplaced) defense of the programmer's rights. Now that I've looked at the module's *documentation*--which is the bulk of what it has to offer--I see that there is a lengthy anti- semitic rant by an apparently troubled individual--formatted as Perl comments--embedded within "code" shown in the License section. That's a bird of a different feather. > In short - it is ( IMHO ) a piece of spam that perverts CPAN into a > publishing resource > Steve I now understand why so many people were voting for "censorship", with so few defending the rights of the programmer. Given what we're dealing with, I'm now in agreement that this "Module" is effectively spam, and should be treated accordingly. -Tim *---* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX http://www.consultix-inc.com| | tim at ( Consultix-Inc, TeachMePerl, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com| | Classes: 2/28: Basic Perl; 3/12: Basic UNIX/Linux; 3/16: Min Perl | *-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | * "Minimal Perl" book rates 4.8 out of 5 stars at Amazon.com! * | | > Download chapters, read reviews, and order at MinimalPerl.com < | *---*
Re: Delete hate speech module
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 08:58:01AM -0800, alan wrote: > > > >On a more serious side, getting rid of it [Time::Cubic] should be > >pretty open and shut. CPAN is a public resource managed by private > >entities. I'm generally against the idea of censorship in all its forms, and /definitely/ against the idea of removing a Perl module from CPAN just because something *within the code* offended somebody--or even lots of somebodies! I support the idea that a CPAN author has the right to write his (her, etc.) code *any way he wants*/--which includes the use of comments that might appear scurrilous to some (which appears to be the complaint against Time::Cubic). What's the alternative? That we have every CPAN Module scanned for offensive components, including comments (# shit happens!), variable names ($KKK), variable names (my $ugly_female_boss), and statement labels? (NUKE_OJ_BUSH_AND_OSAMA: for $ever) Wouldn't we be better off investing our collective JAPHly energies in the expanding our market share and completion of Perl 6 and rather than the creation of "Regexp::Common::Enforce_Code_Nazi_Policies"? If we /were/ to become Code Nazis, the slippery-slope that we'd be embarking on would unavoidably affect many "eccentric" modules which people value (Regexp::Common::profanity_us, Tie:Hash::Cannabinol, etc.). I realize that some CPAN users live in countries where people have strict limits on their freedom of expression, and I empathize with those who have taken offense at someone else's indulgences of their unbridled liberties. But remember, Perl is the language that has a "poetry mode"! It's designed for those who value unfettered self expression. -Tim *---* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX http://www.consultix-inc.com| | tim at ( Consultix-Inc, TeachMePerl, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com| | Classes: 2/28: Basic Perl; 3/12: Basic UNIX/Linux; 3/16: Min Perl | *-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | * "Minimal Perl" book rates 4.8 out of 5 stars at Amazon.com! * | | > Download chapters, read reviews, and order at MinimalPerl.com < | *---*
Re: Tests needing user parameters
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:51:12PM +0100, Jess Robinson wrote: > > Hey folks, > > I'm writing a module which will need user account data for it's tests, and > I'm wondering if there's a standard way (or module) for doing this.. What do you mean by "user account data"? Perhaps UNIX/Linux UIDs and GIDs? Or insurance-company customer policy-numbers? Give us a clue, dude! > Else I'll guess I'll look for environment variables and otherwise not > test, any ideas? > > Jess The "otherwise not test" part of that sentence makes me hope your code won't be managing a nucular* reactor! 8-} -Tim *Spelled in accordance with the Homerian/Dubya-ish pronunciation. *--* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com http://TeachMePerl.Com http://TeachMeUnix.Com | | CLASSES: Perl and CGI Programming, 11/14-18UNIX Fundamentals: 12/6-9 | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=* | Watch for my upcoming book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | | See http://minimalperl.com for details, ordering, and email-list signup | *--*
Re: File::Spec::VMS enhancements.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 09:53:15AM -0400, John E. Malmberg wrote: > Ken Williams wrote: > > > > Extended characters in pathnames: The traditional VMS mode ... > [0..9],[A..Z],[-$_] I'm admittedly a few decades past the peak of my expertise in VMS, but shouldn't the ";" preceding a file's "version number" be listed in that set also? -Tim *------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com http://TeachMePerl.Com http://TeachMeUnix.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* |Watch for my Fall, 2005 book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People"| | See http://minimalperl.com for details, ordering, and email-list signup | *--*
Re: what to do with dead camels ?
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 11:45:01AM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > It turns out that in June there were 4000+ hits on modules in the Glad you mentioned that, because I've been wondering, where can one find hit and download stats for CPAN modules? > lcwa distro instead of their "real" distros. That skews my stats for > the Phalanx project, but more importantly, it means that 4000 times > users got old docs. > Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance -Tim *--------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | **
