Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-11 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 10 March 2006 22:49, brian d foy wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shlomi Fish

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 10 March 2006 15:58, Jerry D. Hedden wrote:
It's been over a month since I sent this. Why didn't I receive a
reply?
  
   You have to contact the 'owner' directly.  Only the owner can make you
   a co-maintainer.  This mailing list does not directly affect ownership.
 
  The owner is not responsive, and hasn't been in quite a while. Besides,
  this email was directed towards modules@perl.org, where the CPAN
  administrators are, and from what I understood they _can_ make me a
  co-maintainer.

 Next time, you should make it clear in the message (not just the
 headers) where you've sent it. It helps people know what's going on.


OK.

 I also answered this message in modules@perl.org not realizing that you
 had already posted it here, too.

 Mail-Webmail-Gmail has a new version today, so I consider it as
 actively maintained and its up to the owner to add you as a
 co-maintainer. If you send him a kind note, you might get a reply. :)

Yes, a new version was released today (after a long time of neglect). It fixes 
the critical bug that was exhibited there, so it's no longer critical that I 
become a co-maintainer. The author contacted me privately about it.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/

95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the
bottom 5%.


Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-11 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 10 March 2006 22:33, brian d foy wrote:
  It's been over a month since I sent this. Why didn't I receive a reply?
  (To say nothing of this request being dealt with.)

 Hi Shlomi,

 The usual procedure to take over a module invovles you publicly
 announcing your intent in some place that most people will see, such as
 use.perl, and some of the admins trying to contact the author.


OK, I'll keep it in mind.

 If, after a couple of weeks the author does not respond (or responds
 that he doesn't mind the transfer), we can add you as a co-maintainer.


OK.

 However, Allen Holman has uploaded a new version today, I think he's
 still interested in working on the module. I can't say why he hasn't
 responded to you, but realize that sometimes mail gets lost. Perhaps
 you can try again.  You might consider being a bit less aggressive,
 though :)

That's OK. My problem was that the module had a critical issue and was not 
corrected to fix the problem, despite the fact that a bug and a patch (by me) 
were placed in the Request Tracker of the module. Today, the author uploaded 
a new and corrected version, which fixes the problem. That was not the case 
over a month ago when I first contacted [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Shlomi Fish  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/

95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the
bottom 5%.


Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-11 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 10 March 2006 23:53, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
 * Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 13:30]:
 On Monday 06 February 2006 00:05, Shlomi Fish wrote:
  I'd like to become co-maintainer of the Mail-Webmail-Gmail
  module:
 
  http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-Webmail-Gmail/
 
  Has been unmaintained since April 2005, and is now broken due
  to the gmail interface change. I wrote and submitted a patch
  to fix it:

 Honestly, though, why would anyone care? GMail offers POP3 access
 now, so scraping their web pages to get at the information is a
 pointless excercise.

Unfortunately, you're wrong. POP3 is a limited protocol that doesn't give 
everything that Mail-Webmail-Gmail does. Here are a few things that M-W-G can 
do that POP3 can't:

1. List all messages in a certain label.

2. Delete all messages in a certain label.

3. Apply a label on a large number of messages.

4. Remove a label from a large number of messages.

Everything that has to do with labels cannot be done with POP3.

I'm using Mail-Webmail-Gmail to purge all the messages from the label of a 
certain mailing list. I'm not interested in downloading all of them to my 
hard disk, and I'd rather not use the web UI to delete them since it can only 
select 100 messages at a time.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Shlomi Fish  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/

95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the
bottom 5%.


Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi!

It's been over a month since I sent this. Why didn't I receive a reply? (To 
say nothing of this request being dealt with.)

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

On Monday 06 February 2006 00:05, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 I'd like to become co-maintainer of the Mail-Webmail-Gmail module:

 http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-Webmail-Gmail/

 Has been unmaintained since April 2005, and is now broken due to the gmail
 interface change. I wrote and submitted a patch to fix it:

 http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=14540

 However it was not applied since its submission. The author did not respond
 to my ping, and had not dealt with the incompatiblity change.

 Thus, please make my user on PAUSE (SHLOMIF) a co-maintainer of this
 module so I can upload a corrected version of it there.

 Thanks in advance,

   Shlomi Fish

 -
 Shlomi Fish  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/

 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the
 bottom 5%.

-- 

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Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/

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bottom 5%.


RE: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-10 Thread Jerry D. Hedden


  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail
 From: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, March 10, 2006 6:41 am
 To: modules@perl.org
 Cc: Perl Module-Authors module-authors@perl.org

 It's been over a month since I sent this. Why didn't I receive a reply?

You have to contact the 'owner' directly.  Only the owner can make you a
co-maintainer.  This mailing list does not directly affect ownership.

 On Monday 06 February 2006 00:05, Shlomi Fish wrote:
  I'd like to become co-maintainer of the Mail-Webmail-Gmail module:
 
  http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-Webmail-Gmail/
 
  Has been unmaintained since April 2005, and is now broken due to the gmail
  interface change. I wrote and submitted a patch to fix it:
 
  http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=14540
 
  However it was not applied since its submission. The author did not respond
  to my ping, and had not dealt with the incompatiblity change.
 
  Thus, please make my user on PAUSE (SHLOMIF) a co-maintainer of this
  module so I can upload a corrected version of it there.



Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Stosberg
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:18:36PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 
  You have to contact the 'owner' directly.  Only the owner can make you a
  co-maintainer.  This mailing list does not directly affect ownership.
 
 
 The owner is not responsive, and hasn't been in quite a while. Besides, this 
 email was directed towards modules@perl.org, where the CPAN administrators 
 are, and from what I understood they _can_ make me a co-maintainer.

You can always upload a fork in a new name-space if you want to get
something on CPAN immediately.

If the author becomes responsive, they can choose to merge your fork, or
simply update the docs of the first branch to recommend the branch you
maintain.

Mark


Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-10 13:30]:
On Monday 06 February 2006 00:05, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 I'd like to become co-maintainer of the Mail-Webmail-Gmail
 module:

 http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-Webmail-Gmail/

 Has been unmaintained since April 2005, and is now broken due
 to the gmail interface change. I wrote and submitted a patch
 to fix it:

Honestly, though, why would anyone care? GMail offers POP3 access
now, so scraping their web pages to get at the information is a
pointless excercise.

Regards,
-- 
Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/


Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-10 Thread Andy Lester


Honestly, though, why would anyone care? GMail offers POP3 access
now, so scraping their web pages to get at the information is a
pointless excercise.


I don't see that it matters.

Besides, it keeps him busy!

--
Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance





Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-10 Thread brian d foy

 It's been over a month since I sent this. Why didn't I receive a reply? (To 
 say nothing of this request being dealt with.)

Hi Shlomi,

The usual procedure to take over a module invovles you publicly
announcing your intent in some place that most people will see, such as
use.perl, and some of the admins trying to contact the author. 

If, after a couple of weeks the author does not respond (or responds
that he doesn't mind the transfer), we can add you as a co-maintainer.

However, Allen Holman has uploaded a new version today, I think he's
still interested in working on the module. I can't say why he hasn't
responded to you, but realize that sometimes mail gets lost. Perhaps
you can try again.  You might consider being a bit less aggressive,
though :)

-- 
brian d foy (one of many PAUSE admins), http://pause.perl.org
archives at http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/modules
please send all messages back to modules@perl.org


Re: Assume Co-Maintainership of Mail-Webmail-Gmail

2006-03-10 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shlomi Fish
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 10 March 2006 15:58, Jerry D. Hedden wrote:

   It's been over a month since I sent this. Why didn't I receive a reply?

  You have to contact the 'owner' directly.  Only the owner can make you a
  co-maintainer.  This mailing list does not directly affect ownership.

 The owner is not responsive, and hasn't been in quite a while. Besides, this 
 email was directed towards modules@perl.org, where the CPAN administrators 
 are, and from what I understood they _can_ make me a co-maintainer.

Next time, you should make it clear in the message (not just the
headers) where you've sent it. It helps people know what's going on.

I also answered this message in modules@perl.org not realizing that you
had already posted it here, too.

Mail-Webmail-Gmail has a new version today, so I consider it as
actively maintained and its up to the owner to add you as a
co-maintainer. If you send him a kind note, you might get a reply. :)