Re: [good] RE: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
On 10/21/05, ted leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: application deployment for windows and linux. But for mac as far as i have found, you haveto tinker a bit more. I just have the mac users install the WX.net package (demo),then have them put my app in that structure, as i am not knowledgable about packaging for a Mac yet. I've found that if you include the wx.NET libs from the Mac package alongside the actual app binaries in the .app directory structure the user isn't required to install anything. The only shortcoming is that the application is now substantially larger to distribute.-- Bigger 1:23This address if for mailing list traffic only. Please direct non-list correspondence to 0x90.org ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
RE: [good] RE: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
For now I could use GTK + X11 on the Mac, from what I understand. The problem is that, even themed, GTK+ just doesn't have that completely native look & feel. This is just my opinion, and I'm picky when it comes to UIs 8-) (See http://themes.freshmeat.net/screenshots/31431/33291/, for example). The whole native-vs-emulated cross-platform UI framework is an interesting topic. 8 or 9 years ago, I was deciding between an emulated framework called Galaxy, and a native one called XVT. Today, it seems we have the same choices. The sad thing is, and I raise it only for the sake of discussion, is that I may port my app to Java 5 / SWT. The existence of a first class development platform (Eclipse), and the fact that Java 5 has caught up to C# in many ways, makes it a compelling choice. I love Mono and C#, which is why the decision is so hard! -elan > i am waiting for that gtk port to MacOS ... in the mean time .. > I am using WX.Wigets (wx.net) which is native on linux,mac, > and win32 its not nearly as powerful as using gtk+ direct, ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [good] RE: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
i am waiting for that gtk port to MacOS ... in the mean time .. I am using WX.Wigets (wx.net) which is native on linux,mac, and win32 its not nearly as powerful as using gtk+ direct, but it does work to produce an app to all three platforms now. And with wx.net it just involves including 2 dll's in your application deployment for windows and linux. But for mac as far as i have found, you have to tinker a bit more. I just have the mac users install the WX.net package (demo), then have them put my app in that structure, as i am not knowledgable about packaging for a Mac yet. -tl On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:30:07 -0400 Miguel de Icaza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > > > Why you dont uses Gtk#? Is a nice toolkit and run under Linux > > > and Windows (I am not sure about Mac). > > > > I have used GTK+ in the past, and liked it, but I'm really looking to use > > native widgets this time. In my experience, Mac users demand nothing less, > > and personally I think it looks better anyway. > > I appreciate that. > > There is an ongoing effort from Immendio to port Gtk to MacOS and use > Quartz natively. This plus a rendering theme should get you must of the > features you want. > > Sadly it wont hit the streets until next year. > ___ > Mono-devel-list mailing list > Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list > > ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
RE: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
Hello, > > Why you dont uses Gtk#? Is a nice toolkit and run under Linux > > and Windows (I am not sure about Mac). > > I have used GTK+ in the past, and liked it, but I'm really looking to use > native widgets this time. In my experience, Mac users demand nothing less, > and personally I think it looks better anyway. I appreciate that. There is an ongoing effort from Immendio to port Gtk to MacOS and use Quartz natively. This plus a rendering theme should get you must of the features you want. Sadly it wont hit the streets until next year. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
On 10/20/05, Elan Feingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... And then there's the IKVM project, which seems > to be able to run Eclipse (and thus SWT) under Mono's VM -- but I'm not sure > if that means I can write C# code that uses SWT. > Yes. It works. bamboo ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
RE: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
You are sure, if your primary target is Mac then you need other solution as Gtk is native only for Linux users. Maybe you can make something like iFolder (www.ifolder.com), it uses 3 diferent toolkits but "business layers" is same. I use wxWidgets on past and some controls theres a ugly look, as example Win application is not like a native Win apps and if you use some applications writen in Linux with wxWidgets like pgadmin3 you will see that something is bad. Take a look at this page: http://www.mono-project.com/Gui_Toolkits maybe can help you on decision. Everaldo. Em Qua, 2005-10-19 às 20:35 -0700, Elan Feingold escreveu: > > Why you dont uses Gtk#? Is a nice toolkit and run under Linux > > and Windows (I am not sure about Mac). > > I have used GTK+ in the past, and liked it, but I'm really looking to use > native widgets this time. In my experience, Mac users demand nothing less, > and personally I think it looks better anyway. > > Thanks for your reply. > > -elan > > ___ > Mono-devel-list mailing list > Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
RE: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
> Why you dont uses Gtk#? Is a nice toolkit and run under Linux > and Windows (I am not sure about Mac). I have used GTK+ in the past, and liked it, but I'm really looking to use native widgets this time. In my experience, Mac users demand nothing less, and personally I think it looks better anyway. Thanks for your reply. -elan ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] C# and SWT
Hi Elan, Why you dont uses Gtk#? Is a nice toolkit and run under Linux and Windows (I am not sure about Mac). Some months ago I make a GUI frontend to OpenVPN and I use GTK# and works fine on Windows and Linux. http://www.expl0it.de/OpenVPNAdminScreenshots.html http://www.expl0it.de/wizard.html The source code is avaliable at SourceForge, take a look at code, maybe can help you: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openvpnadmin Best resgards, Everaldo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Em Qua, 2005-10-19 às 20:08 -0700, Elan Feingold escreveu: > Hi, > > I'm working on a C# GUI-based project, which I want to run on > Windows/Mac/Linux, and with native widgets. It seems my only choice at the > moment is wxWidgets + C# bindings. What I'd really like to use is SWT, the > excellent Java GUI toolkit. > > Once upon a time, there was a project to port SWT to C#, but that project > seems to have quietly died. And then there's the IKVM project, which seems > to be able to run Eclipse (and thus SWT) under Mono's VM -- but I'm not sure > if that means I can write C# code that uses SWT. > > Any ideas or thoughts? > > Thanks, > > -elan > > ___ > Mono-devel-list mailing list > Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
[Mono-dev] C# and SWT
Hi, I'm working on a C# GUI-based project, which I want to run on Windows/Mac/Linux, and with native widgets. It seems my only choice at the moment is wxWidgets + C# bindings. What I'd really like to use is SWT, the excellent Java GUI toolkit. Once upon a time, there was a project to port SWT to C#, but that project seems to have quietly died. And then there's the IKVM project, which seems to be able to run Eclipse (and thus SWT) under Mono's VM -- but I'm not sure if that means I can write C# code that uses SWT. Any ideas or thoughts? Thanks, -elan ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
