Re: [Mono-dev] Develop for iPad on the iPad
Hi Mauricio, buhochile...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you are in did really positive this morning, you just forget to mention that the future of monotouch is at least uncertain at this moment (may be is worse than that)... Better to be honest with people than keep selling licence for something that may it can't be used later.. [citation needed] In all seriousness, I think that it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. Everyone who is been the loudest are not under an NDA, and the people I talk to who are under the NDA seem to hint that it is not as big of a deal as it is made out to be. Somehow I think that if the Mono guys have been able to do what they've done with .NET and Microsoft, that Monotouch will come out Ok. *IANAL, nor am I on the Mono team, nor do I speak officially for anyone. YMMV. HAND. -- Cory Foy http://www.coryfoy.com http://twitter.com/cory_foy ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Develop for iPad on the iPad
Hi Cory Hi Mauricio, buhochile...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you are in did really positive this morning, you just forget to mention that the future of monotouch is at least uncertain at this moment (may be is worse than that)... Better to be honest with people than keep selling licence for something that may it can't be used later.. [citation needed] In all seriousness, I think that it's not as bad as people are making it Not as bad, are you serious?, you must read the NDA again, is very, very clear and specific, there is no room for misunderstandings. out to be. Everyone who is been the loudest are not under an NDA, and the people I talk to who are under the NDA seem to hint that it is not as big of a deal as it is made out to be. The reason way is *still* not as big of a deal, is just because this is a new NDA targeting iphone OS 4 SDK, which is still not a big target, people using OS 3 SDK NDA can still use the tools that they want.. Somehow I think that if the Mono guys have been able to do what they've done with .NET and Microsoft, that Monotouch will come out Ok. Sure, let hope that all this end up successfully for MT, adobe, unity, etc (I really hate ObjC)..but my point is that until we know a definitely answer from Apple, the future of MT is at least uncertain, and is good to take some responsibility when someone says something like sure, you can develop using Monotouch, ... *IANAL, nor am I on the Mono team, nor do I speak officially for anyone. YMMV. HAND. Mauricio attachment: buhochileno.vcf___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Develop for iPad on the iPad
On 22.04.2010 16:34, buhochile...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, let hope that all this end up successfully for MT, adobe, unity, etc (I really hate ObjC)..but my point is that until we know a definitely answer from Apple, the future of MT is at least uncertain, and is good to take some responsibility when someone says something like sure, you can develop using Monotouch, ... Please carry your frustration out of this mailing list. The question and the answer were solely development related. I see no point in accusing someone of persuading MonoTouch. Robert ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Develop for iPad on the iPad
Hi Mauricio [Mods: This is my last reply, then I'm letting this drop. Promise.] buhochile...@gmail.com wrote: In all seriousness, I think that it's not as bad as people are making it Not as bad, are you serious?, you must read the NDA again, is very, very clear and specific, there is no room for misunderstandings. I've read the NDA. I understand the implications. I have plenty of ideas on how to work around it. I'm no stranger to idiotic licensing schemes. I'm not suggesting you are wrong, I'm saying that the lack of information coming from the MT team may simply be a reflection of them understanding clearly how to work around it, having worked with a legal team to understand it, and not being able to say a word because of the NDA they are under. Never explain with malice that which can be explained by being hit with a stuffed monkey. -- Cory Foy http://www.coryfoy.com http://twitter.com/cory_foy ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
[Mono-dev] Develop for iPad on the iPad
Is it possible to develop for the iPad on the iPad? If yes, is it possible to develop for the iPad on the iPad using MonoTouch? Let's just say, I tried the iPad out at the store, and I like it very much. I would like iPad to replace my laptop. In order to do this, I must be able to create iPad apps on the iPad. Otherwise, I find no interest in the iPad then. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Develop for iPad on the iPad
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 08:20 -0700, Daniel Morgan wrote: Is it possible to develop for the iPad on the iPad? sure, with the right software [1] If yes, is it possible to develop for the iPad on the iPad using MonoTouch? sure, with a hardware dongle [2] Let's just say, I tried the iPad out at the store, and I like it very much. I would like iPad to replace my laptop. In order to do this, I must be able to create iPad apps on the iPad. Otherwise, I find no interest in the iPad then. Have fun Sebastien (feeling too positive to say *no* this morning) [1] e.g. a vnc client [2] the required dongle being a Mac computer running Apple tools and MonoTouch ;-) ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Develop for iPad on the iPad
On 04/19/2010 11:29 AM, Sebastien Pouliot wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 08:20 -0700, Daniel Morgan wrote: Is it possible to develop for the iPad on the iPad? sure, with the right software [1] Well, you are in did really positive this morning, you just forget to mention that the future of monotouch is at least uncertain at this moment (may be is worse than that)... Better to be honest with people than keep selling licence for something that may it can't be used later.. If yes, is it possible to develop for the iPad on the iPad using MonoTouch? sure, with a hardware dongle [2] Let's just say, I tried the iPad out at the store, and I like it very much. I would like iPad to replace my laptop. In order to do this, I must be able to create iPad apps on the iPad. Otherwise, I find no interest in the iPad then. Have fun Sebastien (feeling too positive to say *no* this morning) [1] e.g. a vnc client [2] the required dongle being a Mac computer running Apple tools and MonoTouch ;-) Mauricio ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list attachment: buhochileno.vcf___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list