Re: [Mono-docs-list] Long term Monodoc feature requests.

2004-06-10 Thread Mike Kestner
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 08:15, Miguel de Icaza wrote:

 We just add a node for third-party apps to have them show the content
 there.
 
 Notice that just doing a blanket `hook-up-anywhere' is bad, in the same
 way that program menus are bad on Gnome/KDE: people just pack that stuff
 with useless bits.

Here's my dream as a pseudo-3rd-party library developer:

I develop my docs using monodoc xml format.
At make time, I run my docs through a DTD validater.
I install my docs to prefix/share/doc/package.
I'm done.

Assuming the DTD/validator is shipped with mono/mcs itself, I now have
no monodoc dependency in Gtk# and the circular dep is broken.
If monodoc wants to ship a .tree/.zip/.sources set for Gtk# docs by
default, they can build them from the Gtk# prefix and install them to
the monodoc prefix at monodoc install time.

Any users/packagers that want to build static html of my docs can
install those tools, point them at my share/doc/gtk-sharp node and let
em rip into whatever dir they choose.

For third party libs that monodoc doesn't know about up front, it would
be nice to have UI in monodoc that would let a user specify a dir
containing monodoc source xml which would cause monodoc to build the
sources into whatever representation it wants to use, and install them
either into the monodoc prefix if permissions are available, or into a
user dir that is probed by the monodoc browser at runtime.

This would allow packagers to stuff prebuilt docs into the
monodoc-browser's system repo, and also allow unprivileged users to
identify docs they want the browser to expose.
  
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[Mono-list] For the ADMINS,bug in npgsql very important

2004-06-10 Thread KiOrKY
mr the admins could you look at the bug i report for many times now (April) because im 
not the only one who have it and i think it s nota bug which have time to be fixed in 
the next year !
In fact, i think that companies like mine which  are testing mono can think that it s 
shit because a simple dataadapter.fill(dataset); crash ! 
so , dont look at my langage, im not english and maybe its true im poor in vocabulary .
bests regards
KiOrKY [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 hi Francisco,
 its me who thanks u about help :)
 have you some news about this bug, in fact nobody answers on bugzilla ... and
 im too busy for the moment to searchy more... I can test if you ask me to but
 not search :-) ( in fact i ve lot of exams next week... So ask me whenh you
 have news
 
 for the others, the problem is 
 dataadter.fill ( dataset ) ; seems not to work and throws out of memory
 exeption ...(everything is going well before this line (show the bug report to
 see the code)
 
 the bug is reported on http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=59603 for more
 infos
 
 
 regards
 -- gt;ok so thats the result whithou try catch::
 gt;where do you live, we seems not to have at all the same hour !!! :)
 gt;Unhandled Exception: System.OutOfMemoryException: Out of memory
 gt;#0: 0xc callvirt   in System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter:BuildSchema
 (System.Data.IDataReader,System.Data.DataTable,System.Data.SchemaType)
 (0x8230230 [0x828b3f0] [0x8342da8] [2] )
 gt;#1: 0x0001e callvirt   in System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter:FillTable
 (System.Data.DataTable,System.Data.IDataReader,int,int,intamp;) (0x8230230
 [0x8342da8] [0x828b3f0] [0] [0] [1098862164] )
 gt;#2: 0x00062 callvirt   in System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter:Fill
 (System.Data.DataSet,string,System.Data.IDataReader,int,int) (0x8230230
 [0x809a740] [0x827a690] [0x828b3f0] [0] [0] )
 gt;#3: 0x00040 callvirt   in System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter:Fill
 (System.Data.DataSet,int,int,string,System.Data.IDbCommand,System.Data.CommandBehavior)
 (0x8230230 [0x809a740] [0] [0] [0x827a690] [0x809ac00] [0] )
 gt;#4: 0xd callvirt   in System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter:Fill
 (System.Data.DataSet) (0x8230230 [0x809a740] )
 gt;#5: 0x00082 callvirt   in
 ado.generique.requete.select.adapterposgresql2.Appli:Main (string[])
 ([0x808d940] )
 gt;  
 gt;
 
 
 Hi kiorky..
 
 I got my devel environment working here...
 I'm getting the same result with latest cvs code of mono...
 I think it may be some problem in Npgsql... I'm checking that.
 
 Thanks in advance...
 
 Regards,
 
 Francisco Figueiredo Jr.
 
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[Mono-list] GDA, free dts and libgba

2004-06-10 Thread François Guerin
Hi all, 

I'm currently trying to export a MS SQLServer based application from Windows to linux, 
using mono. I've installed freetds-0.62.1-1, and when I try to install libgda and 
gda-freetds, I've dependencies problems... Can someone help me with this?

Regards

frague
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Re: [Mono-list] GDA, free dts and libgba

2004-06-10 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 10:01 +0200, François Guerin wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 I'm currently trying to export a MS SQLServer based application from Windows to 
 linux, using mono. I've installed freetds-0.62.1-1, and when I try to install libgda 
 and gda-freetds, I've dependencies problems... Can someone help me with this?
 
which dependency problems?

cheers

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[Mono-list] ASP.NET Web Services in MONO

2004-06-10 Thread Mahen Perera
Hi everybody!

I want to to know the mechanism used in ASP.NET web services in MONO to invoke Web methods.Does it use pure reflection or other means..


Thank you

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RE: [Mono-list] cant find gtk-sharp.dlls

2004-06-10 Thread Mike Kestner
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 00:13, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:

 Every thing is in the rigth place, and mono_path is good. Monodevelop
 and monodoc run fins, but I cant build anything using gtk-sharp etc...

Are there correct links in the libdir/mono/gtk-sharp directory to all of
the gac'd assemblies.  There have been some issues with gacutil not
getting the links right.  There is a fix in the works.

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Re: [Mono-list] For the ADMINS,bug in npgsql very important

2004-06-10 Thread Francisco Figueiredo Jr.
KiOrKY wrote:
mr the admins could you look at the bug i report for many times now (April) because im not the only one who have it and i think it s nota bug which have time to be fixed in the next year !
In fact, i think that companies like mine which  are testing mono can think that it s shit because a simple dataadapter.fill(dataset); crash ! 
so , dont look at my langage, im not english and maybe its true im poor in vocabulary .
bests regards
KiOrKY [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 

Hi Kiorki,
I'm checking that and as soon as I  get news I will let you know.
Regards,
Francisco Figueiredo Jr.
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[Mono-list] Re: [Mono-devel-list] ASP.NET Web Services in MONO

2004-06-10 Thread Lluis Sanchez
Yes, it uses reflection.

On dj, 2004-06-10 at 14:02, Mahen Perera wrote:
 Hi everybody!
  
 I want to to know the mechanism used in ASP.NET web services in MONO
 to invoke Web methods. Does it use pure reflection or other
 means..
  
  
 Thank you
  
 Mahen 
 
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RE: [Mono-list] How install

2004-06-10 Thread Juan Jose Torres Chavez




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[Mono-list] How install mono and xsp in red hat 9.0?

2004-06-10 Thread Juan Jose Torres Chavez
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hi 
everyone

i have a 
question:

How install mono and xsp in red hat 
9.0?

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[Mono-list] TypeConverterAttribute

2004-06-10 Thread Dennis Boylan
I'm having an issue where the compiler is not trying to call the convert
process to get the value into the correct format.

This was generated code from ASP.

 private void __BuildControl_tabIdLogout() {
 Microsoft.Web.UI.WebControls.Tab __ctrl;
 __ctrl = new Microsoft.Web.UI.WebControls.Tab();
 this.tabIdLogout = __ctrl;
 __ctrl.ID = tabIdLogout;
 __ctrl.Text = Logout;
 __ctrl.ToolTip = Log out;
 __ctrl.DefaultStyle = background-color:SkyBlue;color:White;border-
left:2px solid white;border-top:2px solid white;border-right:2px solid DarkBlue;
border-bottom:2px solid DarkBlue;;
 }

The DefaultStyle is of type CssCollection.  The dll does have a
TypeConverterAttribute, but does not seem to be using it.

Suggestions, clues?

- Dennis
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Re: [Mono-list] Can't Build libgdiplus-0.8

2004-06-10 Thread Jordi Mas
El dijous 10 de juny del 2004 a les 11:46 -0700, en/na Kevin Berry va
escriure:
 I'm using Mandrake 10.  I've successfully built mono,
 mcs and xsp.  But I'm having trouble building
 libgdiplus-0.8.
 
 There appears to be a mismatch in the gifcodec.h and
 gifcodec.c files.  It complains about lines 25 and 395
 respectively.  The function that has a differing
 declaration is gdip_save_gif_image_to_file.  In the
 header file it is defined to take an unsigned char
 *filename param, while in the .c file it takes FILE
 *fp as the first parameter.
 
 Are the libgdiplus-0.8 source downloads bad at
 http://www.go-mono.com/download.html

Hello Kevin,

There is a problem, the stubs used when libgif is not present do not
match the latest functions definitions. I have fixed this in CVS. You
only hit the problem if you have libgif installed.

If you want to fix this quick, I recommend you to install libgif, these
stubs will not be used and libgdiplus should compile just fine.

Thanks for letting us this problem.

Best Regards,

Jordi,

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[Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Erik Dasque
Hi all,
As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will 
be phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love 
feedback on it before we push it out officially :

http://www.mono-project.com
Let us know.
Erik
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Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Atsushi Eno
Hi Erik,
As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will be 
phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love feedback 
on it before we push it out officially :

http://www.mono-project.com
Let us know.
The new page looks cool :-)  As a translator, it would be nice if the
sources of the web pages are available like current go-mono.com pages.
Something I noticed:
In Books page ( http://www.mono-project.com/about/books.html )
Screenshots became Applications in the navigation bar.
Link to monologue varies? For example,
from http://www.mono-project.com/about/index.html and
from http://www.mono-project.com/about/irc.html
And also, some of them open new window, while some don't.
Maybe Hall of Fame can be directly navigated from Contributing to
Mono, instead of the path: Getting Started - Hall of Fame
Atsushi Eno
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Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Paul
Hi,

  http://www.mono-project.com
  
  Let us know.
 
 The new page looks cool :-)  As a translator, it would be nice if the
 sources of the web pages are available like current go-mono.com pages.

Would have been nice if you'd remembered us poor Fedora Core 2 users ;-p

TTFN

Paul
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[Mono-list] Mono Linux Installer

2004-06-10 Thread Bailo, John



First of all: 
The New Website has a great modern look...good job.

Second:

I just loaded the 
Ximian Desktop on my Suse 9.0 system at work. It was great -- a web based 
installer, called wget,that looked more like a Windows type set up program 
with a progress bar and all. And it was all done with clicks and property 
sheets...It 
installed a complete Desktop and did not even require a 
reboot.

Question: Why can't 
mono have a wgetinstaller just like that ?


AIM: bailoja



Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Ben Maurer
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 16:59, Erik Dasque wrote:
 As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will 
 be phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love 
 feedback on it before we push it out officially :

First, I love this. It looks *GREAT*. Even if none of these comments are
acted upon, it will still be great.

Now, for comments:

- The orange developers section looks way too bright. Todd commented on
IRC that the using section green had once been bright but was changed. I
think a similar change for the orange would be good.

- On the home page, the XML button does not match the blue color theme.

- Without JavaScript, there seems to be no way to navigate the menu
system.

- On the `Contact Us' button at the top, I expected to see IRC contact
information, and a link for bugzilla. Also, a link to the mailing list
page would be nice.

- http://www.mono-project.com/about/mailing-lists.html:
  - mono-list is missing
  - Could we cut down on the size of the mono-devel-list description. It
makes lots of stuff go below the fold

- http://www.mono-project.com/downloads/index.html
  * We should have an `older releases' page that has everything
before, say, beta 1.
  * It might make sense to group like:
Source
...
Red Hat
Red Hat Linux 9
Fedora Core 1
SUSE
...
Windows
...
Mac OS
...
I think that would create less visual clutter.
  * Does Fedora have its own logo? Should we use it rather than Red
Hat's.
  * Does anyone need a (tm)?

- The team page does not look as professional as everything else. Could
we have a redesign of that to match the rest. Also, on this page the
`tab' thingy at the top has a large gap below it.

- In the menu system, there needs to be a sort of `you are here'
indicator. For example, the current page could be in bold, and would not
be a hyperlink, or it could be a different color etc.

- http://www.mono-project.com/using/emacs.html is a dead link

- Where did the whitepaper miguel and I wrote about performance go?

- http://www.mono-project.com/using/mcs.html is out of place in the
`using' section. It contains almost nothing about using mcs. IMHO, the
first few paragraphs of text should stay, and we should insert links to
reference articles.

- In the menu system, you are inconsistantly using Title Caps and
Sentence caps. For example:
  * Mono and Gtk# tutorials
  * The Mono Runtime
  * CVS Write access (this one has BOTH methods!)

Just pick one and stay with it.

- http://www.mono-project.com/contributing/compiling.html does not have
`make bootstrap' documented

- http://www.mono-project.com/about/applications.html should be updated.
For example, MonoDevelop is not on there. Also, obsolete programs (eg,
the debugger, which is now inside MD) should be removed. It would be
nice if the screenshots were all taken using Ximian's industrial theme.

- I saw some instances of GTK#. It is Gtk#.

Ok, I think that's all for now!

-- Ben




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Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Kevin Breit
Ben,
   You're the man.  I'm going to integrate your changes tomorrow!
Kevin
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RE: [Mono-list] GDA, free dts and libgba

2004-06-10 Thread Daniel Morgan
Have you tried asking Rodrigo Moya (maintainer of libgda) or the
maintainer of the freetds provider?

There are alternatives, such as, using System.Data.SqlClient in Mono.

Or you could use Mono's System.Data.Odbc with unixODBC and freetds.

Can you list the depenedency problems you are having?

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Hi all, 

I'm currently trying to export a MS SQLServer based application from
Windows to linux, using mono. I've installed freetds-0.62.1-1, and when
I try to install libgda and gda-freetds, I've dependencies problems...
Can someone help me with this?

Regards

frague
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RE: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Nick Drochak
| As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will
| be phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love
| feedback on it before we push it out officially :
| 

I love it!  Great work!

I have one small comment about the navigation menus on the left.  The
behavior of the menus on the About Mono page is different from those on
Using Mono and Contributing to Mono.  It seems if the menu item opens a
sub-menu, it doesn't have any page content on the right to go with it.
However, those that don't open a sub-menu give a new page. These two
different behaviors should look different in some way IMHO.

I'd suggest putting a + in front of the menu item, or some this menu
expands indicator in front of those that expand.  Also, possibly it would
make it more consistent to have some content there for that main menu item
even if it does expand into sub-items.

Perhaps if Ben's suggestion of a visual clue for the currently selected menu
item is incorporated, part of this issue will be solved. Note that when you
first click on Using Mono you are put on the Installing Mono page which is a
sub menu of Quick Start, and then clicking on Quick Start just collapses the
menu, but Installing Mono is still the content shown on the right.  This is
a bit confusing, again IMHO.

Looks great though!  Good work guys!

Nick D.

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Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Norbert Bollow
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 As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will 
 be phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love 
 feedback on it before we push it out officially :
 
 http://www.mono-project.com
 
 Let us know.

Hi,
  I quickly looked over it and noticed just one nitpick:  In the
answer to question 129, you link to the page on the OSI site
titled GNU Lesser General Public License, but the license is
referred to as GNU Library GPL... note that the GNU Lesser
General Public License, version 2.1 is a successor to the GNU
Library Public License, version 2, not to anything called GNU
Library GPL.

Greetings, Norbert.

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Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Jonathan Pryor
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 16:59, Erik Dasque wrote:
 As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will 
 be phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love 
 feedback on it before we push it out officially :

I must join the others in congratulating you.  The new site looks
wonderful.

I have just one request: please *don't* use explicit pixel widths for
page elements, use percentages instead.  It causes things to look bad
when the browser window is a non-standard size; see:

http://www.jprl.com/~jon/mono-project.png

In particular, notice that the menu on the left is truncated.

(And why do I have 690 x 814 pixel windows?  So I can layout them out
four to a workspace, viewing two full windows side-by-side.  I can view
more pages this way.)

Thanks,

 - Jon


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Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread David Waite
On Jun 10, 2004, at 4:25 PM, Ben Maurer wrote:
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 16:59, Erik Dasque wrote:
As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will
be phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love
feedback on it before we push it out officially :
First, I love this. It looks *GREAT*. Even if none of these comments 
are
acted upon, it will still be great.
I agree!
Now, for comments:
I agree! ;-)
I'll add a few additional comments, take them with as many grains of 
salt as you like.

The navigation is not confusing, but is a bit overwelming. There are 
the main sections at the top, the navigation bar on the left, and also 
buttons at the the top right. None of these are 'authorative' - the 
download button for example goes to the 'about mono' tab look, but is 
not navigatable via the about bar on the left.

Also, the submenus on some items are hidden, which makes it confusing 
to find the 'licensing and patents' section for instance, without 
knowing it appears under the 'faq' section. The look of submenu items 
was not sufficient for me to realize (at first) that I was actually 
looking at a menu with embedded items. Also, clicking on the 'faq' link 
(without page content changing to show I was on a new link) was 
confusing to me, although I have used the internet for long enough to 
quickly figure it out.

Some links in the navigation system and buttons at the top send you to 
an external site; there is no visual indicator that this will happen.

The 'about' navigation bar could be flattened if:
The FAQ was moved to 'using mono', with the general section refactored 
into some sort of 'relationships' page (with novell, gnome, ecma, and 
microsoft)

Resources were moved to 'using mono', leaving 'The Mono Team' and 
'Contact Us'. Actually, 'resources' is not the best categorization, 
since the whole site is a meta-resource for four types of people.

Ok, I'll stop now, before I suggest changing it to four main categories 
(targeting each of 'person discovering more about mono', 'user of mono 
for end-user applications', 'developer using mono', and 'mono 
contributors')

-David Waite
- The orange developers section looks way too bright. Todd commented on
IRC that the using section green had once been bright but was changed. 
I
think a similar change for the orange would be good.

- On the home page, the XML button does not match the blue color theme.
- Without JavaScript, there seems to be no way to navigate the menu
system.
- On the `Contact Us' button at the top, I expected to see IRC contact
information, and a link for bugzilla. Also, a link to the mailing list
page would be nice.
- http://www.mono-project.com/about/mailing-lists.html:
  - mono-list is missing
  - Could we cut down on the size of the mono-devel-list description. 
It
makes lots of stuff go below the fold

- http://www.mono-project.com/downloads/index.html
  * We should have an `older releases' page that has everything
before, say, beta 1.
  * It might make sense to group like:
Source
...
Red Hat
Red Hat Linux 9
Fedora Core 1
SUSE
...
Windows
...
Mac OS
...
I think that would create less visual clutter.
  * Does Fedora have its own logo? Should we use it rather than Red
Hat's.
  * Does anyone need a (tm)?
- The team page does not look as professional as everything else. Could
we have a redesign of that to match the rest. Also, on this page the
`tab' thingy at the top has a large gap below it.
- In the menu system, there needs to be a sort of `you are here'
indicator. For example, the current page could be in bold, and would 
not
be a hyperlink, or it could be a different color etc.

- http://www.mono-project.com/using/emacs.html is a dead link
- Where did the whitepaper miguel and I wrote about performance go?
- http://www.mono-project.com/using/mcs.html is out of place in the
`using' section. It contains almost nothing about using mcs. IMHO, the
first few paragraphs of text should stay, and we should insert links to
reference articles.
- In the menu system, you are inconsistantly using Title Caps and
Sentence caps. For example:
  * Mono and Gtk# tutorials
  * The Mono Runtime
  * CVS Write access (this one has BOTH methods!)
Just pick one and stay with it.
- http://www.mono-project.com/contributing/compiling.html does not have
`make bootstrap' documented
- http://www.mono-project.com/about/applications.html should be 
updated.
For example, MonoDevelop is not on there. Also, obsolete programs (eg,
the debugger, which is now inside MD) should be removed. It would be
nice if the screenshots were all taken using Ximian's industrial theme.

- I saw some instances of GTK#. It is Gtk#.
Ok, I think that's all for now!
-- Ben


RE: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread John BouAntoun
Also,

The mono documentation has the text 'Monodoc Home' in the title bar
hanging underneath (not visible) the index frame. You might want to make
the title bar frame a little taller.

I'm using firefox 0.8 on win2k.

JBA

http://www.go-mono.com:8080/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Pryor
Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 9:40 AM
To: Erik Dasque
Cc: Mono List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mono-list] New web site up


On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 16:59, Erik Dasque wrote:
 As some of you may know, we're moving to a new site (the old one will
 be phased out eventually) and to new content and design. We'd love 
 feedback on it before we push it out officially :

I must join the others in congratulating you.  The new site looks
wonderful.

I have just one request: please *don't* use explicit pixel widths for
page elements, use percentages instead.  It causes things to look bad
when the browser window is a non-standard size; see:

http://www.jprl.com/~jon/mono-project.png

In particular, notice that the menu on the left is truncated.

(And why do I have 690 x 814 pixel windows?  So I can layout them out
four to a workspace, viewing two full windows side-by-side.  I can view
more pages this way.)

Thanks,

 - Jon


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[Mono-list] Wanted: libgobject-2.0-0.dll

2004-06-10 Thread Fabrício Santos
Viva a todos,

I was having this problem and found out it was related to a wrong MONO_PATH:

==
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMs]# monodevelop

** (./MonoDevelop.exe:3542): WARNING **: Could not find assembly gtk-sharp,
references from /usr/lib/monodevelop/bin/./Mo
noDevelop.exe (assemblyref_index=2)
...
==

After fixing it:

==
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMs]# export MONO_PATH=/usr/lib/mono/gtk-sharp/
==

I started getting this:

==
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMs]# monodevelop

Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: libgobject-2.0-0.dll
in 0x00053 (wrapper managed-to-native) Gnome.Program:g_type_init ()
in 0x0010b Gnome.Program:.ctor
(string,string,Gnome.ModuleInfo,string[],object[])
in [0x000d5] (at
/home/duncan/conf/mono-conf/monodevelop/BUILD/monodevelop-0.4/src/Main/Start
Up/MonoDevelopMain.cs:80) Mo
noDevelop.SharpDevelopMain:Main (string[])
==

I can't find this libgobject-2.0-0.dll file anywhere. In which package
should this file be found? I can't find it anywhere. Even rpmfind.net has no
clue about it...

To install mono on my Fedora Core 1 system I just unzipped the Beta 2
mono_all.zip and ran rpm -i *rpm and it seems all packages installed ok.

Thanks for any help.

-fs

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[Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread Melinda
Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.

I understand if Windows.Forms is controversial because to implement it,
you have to use emulation so why bother. Just use something like Gtk#. 

What about Web services? ASP.NET is controversial according to the FAQ
page. And it said:  are not required for the open source Mono
platform, nor  

Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono. 

So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
PHP.NET? :)


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Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread Cory Nelson
ASP.NET is mainly just a collection of classes.

The hack they call PHP doesn't even compare to it haha.  Mono's
ASP.NET support is actually very good.

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:39:35 +0700, Melinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
 The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
 subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
 with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
 platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.
 
 I understand if Windows.Forms is controversial because to implement it,
 you have to use emulation so why bother. Just use something like Gtk#.
 
 What about Web services? ASP.NET is controversial according to the FAQ
 page. And it said:  are not required for the open source Mono
 platform, nor 
 
 Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
 Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono.
 
 So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
 PHP.NET? :)
 
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Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread Rodrigo B. de Oliveira
The question was not about how good the asp.net support on mono is right
now. The question, a valid one, was what's the recommended approach to
write web applications since asp.net is not covered by the ECMA spec, in
other words, what's the equivalent piece of technology in the mono
stack?

I guess the answer is that right now we don't have one.

all the best,
Rodrigo

Em Qui, 2004-06-10 às 21:54, Cory Nelson escreveu:
 ASP.NET is mainly just a collection of classes.
 
 The hack they call PHP doesn't even compare to it haha.  Mono's
 ASP.NET support is actually very good.
 
 On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:39:35 +0700, Melinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
  The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
  subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
  with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
  platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.
  
  
  
  Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
  Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono.
  
  So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
  PHP.NET? :)
  

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[Mono-list] XSP Mono beta2 (HTTP 500)

2004-06-10 Thread Tany Villalba
HI friends:

I Install Mono Beta2 including XSP, but I have a
problem, whenever desire to open to a pagina ASPX :
say the next error in the Web that says: 

Description: Error processing request. 
Message Error: HTTP 500 

As I solve east problem (single it happens with beta2)

Thanks


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[Mono-list] and now for something completely different... boo 0.1 is out!

2004-06-10 Thread Rodrigo B. de Oliveira
http://boo.sourceforge.net/wiki/ReleaseNotes

boo is a new object oriented statically typed programming language for
the CLI with a python inspired syntax and a special focus on language
and compiler extensibility.

Have fun!
Rodrigo





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Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread John Luke
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 22:23 -0300, Rodrigo B. de Oliveira wrote:
 The question was not about how good the asp.net support on mono is right
 now. The question, a valid one, was what's the recommended approach to
 write web applications since asp.net is not covered by the ECMA spec, in
 other words, what's the equivalent piece of technology in the mono
 stack?
 
 I guess the answer is that right now we don't have one.
 

There are some ports of some Java stuff already and some in progress.
For example spring.net, but I am not really sure if those are the
equivalent of ASP.NET, etc.

http://www.springframework.net/

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Re: [Mono-list] New web site up

2004-06-10 Thread Ben Maurer
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 18:25, Ben Maurer wrote:
 Ok, I think that's all for now!

Ok, here are some nitpicking comments:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mono-project.com%2Fabout%2Findex.html


 #bodyContent {
   font: 11px san-serif, arial;

w3's validator suggests `You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last 
alternative'

net Magazine
May 31st, 2003
CLI integration.

-- This is a 404

http://www.mono-project.com/contributing/asp-net.html
Link is a 404

(you need a link checker ;-)

http://www.go-mono.com/images/beta2.gif
http://www.mono-project.com/img/xml.gif
Missing `alt' tag on these images.

You are missing `height' and `width' tags on alot of images. This would
help the layout on the first load.

`search' button should not use javascript, cant use it from lynx etc.

The Mono logo at the top is not centered in the image. There are 18 px
of padding on the top but 20 px on the bottom.

http://www.mono-project.com/about/rationale.html has the same title as
the home page, but different content. This is confusing. Also, there is
no way to get to that page except for the text link in the main body. It
should be in the nav bar.

I think the search area should look like this:

+---+  ++
| Enter search term |  | Go |
+---+  ++

You should use some JS magic to have it so that when you click inside
the text box, the text goes away. There are a few advantages to this
layout:

  * You save space (no header, button is on same line)
  * The search can be more subtle and elegant.

An example of how this has been done successfully is
http://sparknotes.com/.

On the Contact/Downloads/etc bar at the top there is room for another
link. IMHO we should use it. Personally, I would vote for either
`Blogs', `Bugs' or `Mailing lists'.

The buttons at the top (tabs, contact links) should have rollovers.

You should apply Fitts' law to the news stories on the home page: make
the clickable area as large as possible. Right now you can only click
the date of the article (I tried to click the title at first). Really,
you should just be able to click anywhere in the `box' around the
article (sorta like the menu items)

The `Mono Status' sidebar does not seem right. The different colors
because of linking makes it very weird.

When I open a page such as
http://www.mono-project.com/contributing/index.html the menu `flashes'
open. It should not flash on first load.

When you click About Mono / Using Mono / Contributing to Mono, the title
of the page that is opened should be the same as the link you pressed
(it is not for the first two)

The use of of   as a bullet is very weird. On my box, the gt sign is
too long for this purpose. Really you should use one of the CSS list
types, or your own custom image.

Thats all for now!

-- Ben

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Re: [Mono-list] TypeConverterAttribute

2004-06-10 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
El jue, 10-06-2004 a las 21:50, Dennis Boylan escribió:
 I'm having an issue where the compiler is not trying to call the convert
 process to get the value into the correct format.
 
 This was generated code from ASP.
 
  private void __BuildControl_tabIdLogout() {
  Microsoft.Web.UI.WebControls.Tab __ctrl;
  __ctrl = new Microsoft.Web.UI.WebControls.Tab();
  this.tabIdLogout = __ctrl;
  __ctrl.ID = tabIdLogout;
  __ctrl.Text = Logout;
  __ctrl.ToolTip = Log out;
  __ctrl.DefaultStyle = background-color:SkyBlue;color:White;border-
 left:2px solid white;border-top:2px solid white;border-right:2px solid DarkBlue;
 border-bottom:2px solid DarkBlue;;
  }
 
 The DefaultStyle is of type CssCollection.  The dll does have a
 TypeConverterAttribute, but does not seem to be using it.
 
 Suggestions, clues?

File a bug report in bugzilla.ximian.com (read
http://www.go-mono.com/bugs.html) with a simple test case that
reproduces the bug (and work on MS) and I'll fix it.

-Gonzalo


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[Mono-list] Multiple ASP.net VirtualHosts, running as `/'

2004-06-10 Thread Steve Deobald
Does anyone know the proper way of configuring the snazzy new beta2
mod_mono to run on multiple VirtualHosts as `/'?

Here is my current configuration:

VirtualHost 34.65.21.12
Alias / /home/something/public_html/
MonoApplications /:/home/something/public_html/
Directory /home/something/public_html/
SetHandler mono
/Directory

[...everything else...]
/VirtualHost

This works fine for `www.something.com', but I have another
VirtualHost directive farther down my httpd.conf which specifies
another Mono app to run as /. However, it redirects to
`/home/something/public_html/', rather than its own directory. Any
ideas? Is there a way to limit the `Alias' (which I'm assuming is the
problem) to a single VirtualHost? Thanks.

.steve

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Re: [Mono-list] How install mono and xsp in red hat 9.0?

2004-06-10 Thread Roberto Jimeno
Hello Juan,

there's more than one way in which you can install xsp/mono on RedHat-9;
maybe the simplest way to do so is:

Download every RPM file for Mono 0.31 on Red Hat 9 from Mono's web site
(http://www.go-mono.com/archive/0.31/redhat-9-i386/)
then install using rpm -U *.rpm

I suggested 0.31 because it matches the most recent RPM for mod_mono. If
you don't need mod_mono and xsp/mono would do just fine, you can
download the more recent Beta2 instead of 0.31 (from
http://www.go-mono.com/archive/beta2/redhat-9-i386/).


Finally, since I don't like to install everything therefore my favorite
way to install Mono is by downloading Ximian's Red Carpet (from
ximian.com), then subscribing to Mono´s channel and selecting whatever I
actually require; then Red Carpet deals with the dependencies and
installs every required package.

I hope this have answered your question.
Good luck!


On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 13:48, Juan Jose Torres Chavez wrote:
 hi everyone
  
 i have a question:
  
 How install mono and xsp in red hat 9.0?
 


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