[Mono-list] Release 1.1.5 is not in RSS
The release of version 1.1.5 is not published in RSS: http://www.mono-project.com/news/index.rss2 Greetings, Martin Brenn ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] Re: latest gtk# svn not working when compiled with latest mono/gmcs
Hey,
I've just confirmed the same behavior on a fresh ubuntu system with
the latest svn sources:
** ERROR **: file marshal.c: line 6151
(mono_marshal_get_managed_wrapper): should not be reached
aborting...
Any ideas?
Rodrigo
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:03:52 -0300, Rodrigo B. de Oliveira
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running a SuSE 9.2 x86 box with the latest mono/mcs/gtk-sharp svn sources.
>
> Can anyone please confirm that the following application works/does
> not work in your system when compiled with gcms?
>
> using System;
> using Gtk;
>
> public class App {
> public static void Main(string[] args) {
> Application.Init();
> Window w = new Window("Test");
> w.DeleteEvent += delegate(object sender, DeleteEventArgs args) {
> Application.Quit();
> };
> w.ShowAll();
> Application.Run();
> }
> }
>
> The problem seems to be related to the referenced corlib version. mcs
> will add a reference to 1.0.5000, boo and gmcs will add a reference to
> 2.0.3600.
>
> Thanks in advance,
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[Mono-list] Re: Suggestions
Robert Jordan wrote: I know there is a bug open about it, i know there is a control panel work around. But really, ASP.Net development with mono is completely unuseable for real world situations on any platform. This is despite the fact that most of it is pretty much there waiting to be used. I don't agree with this point. ... Serious development implies a staging/development server, so I simply don't care whether I have to restart Apache or not: it's just a script that gets called after a sucessful build. There are 3 issues: 1) In a large virtual host environment - this situation is not workable from a support side of things (see the mono forge forums as an example http://monoforge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60) 2) Not all programmers are sys admins. Not all sysadmins coming to mono are familiar with linux (which is currently the only way to do ASP.Net). I'm hardly a computer newbie, but getting a system up and running with mono has taken a lot longer than is needed due to the fact that i have needed to learn a new operating system, new installation method, new web server, Mono installation and configuration (thats fine) on a system that to be fair not all people will find as user friendly as their current operating system. Suggesting that they just whip up a script to restart the server is not going to work for everyone. 3) What is wrong with just saying under the ASP.Net section of the website "works on linux, requires apache restart for reloading dll's". The curious dont get annoyed when they download and set everything up only to find this issue which that have to search the web to find out about. The comfortable know exactly what needs to be done and can handle it. The - "im waiting for a drop in replacement" people dont waste their time. The effect overall atm is that people who are comfy with .Net, apache and linux will have no problems doing asp.net development with Mono. But how large a segment of the industry do you think that is compared to people who know .Net and IIS and want to try out Mono ? Regards, Nik ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] Re: Suggestions
I know there is a bug open about it, i know there is a control panel work around. But really, ASP.Net development with mono is completely unuseable for real world situations on any platform. This is despite the fact that most of it is pretty much there waiting to be used. I use XSP in "real world situations" on Linux, and I find that it's hardly more of a hastle than IIS. Okay - but are you a .Net developer from windows with little to no experience of linux ?? If so, how long did it take you to arrive at a solution for restarting the server compared to how long it took you to start developing with IIS ?? I may have this completely wrong, the biggest influx of Mono users could be from existing linux users who want a better programming situation that is found with Mono - in which case, some of my suggestions are misguided because they are due to my lack of knowledge of Linux. However, i think that .Net being a Microsoft technology initially means that a large userbase are windows developers who like the appeal of Open Source and are trying out Mono. For this reason, they are going to be unfamiliar with Linux, are going to be running into similar issues as i have, are going to be asking the same questions on the lists time and time again (if they even bother to subscribe). Whilst ideally i would like to be contributing code to make Mono a better project, i can, as a user still offer feedback on the setup process and point out things that could be improved, hopefully saving thousands of other developers who might be similar in my skillset from going through some of the same frustration that i have been through. The fact that there are many blogs out there with similar frustrations being vented would seem to indicate that there is room for improvement - maybe we are just trying to get into the game too early and Mono will get to a much more useable point soon. It can never be as good, as Microsoft is for-profit, and will always be revising their products (C# won't be the C# we know now in five years, I'll warrent. I actually dont buy this at all. An excellent production team with good processes in place will make good products regardless of how the product is licenced at the end or whether they are for profit (and last i checked, Novell was definitely a for-profit company). Regards, Nik ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Re: Suggestions
I like Mono and ASP.NET for simply a compatibility aspect. I feel safer running on Linux as well. It means if a common vulnerability that can attack IIS servers comes out over night, I can't see it effecting me to much and if its a design flaw that we both over looked, I get to apply the patch and really see what it does. The only issue I have is using .NET compiled ASP.NET components from 3rd party companies where they have path issues like calling images and stuff from a resource directory that is cased wrong statically in their code. A few symbolic links in a few places fix most of that as a temporary fix until I get the company made it, to fix it (most companies are open to the idea of their products working in a new market as well so they are more then happy about working on Mono compatibility). I feel that its just a mater of time before we ASP.Net using Mono added to packages like Ensim and CPanel and other hosting providers offering it preinstalled on hosting servers. I haven't found any issues in the SVN head requiring to much work that a simple script can't fix and a half second restart of apache isn't not going to hurt unless someone is in mid stream of a massive download (which rarely happens with my stuff). Rarely do I run into an issue. Granted its all config files, but I prefer them (in fact on IIS 5 I would use a metabase editor and on II6 I would edit the new XML metabase directly instead of using the gui 95% of the time). Structure and automation is possible with flat config files (part of the reason why Microsoft can't get into the virtual hosting market since its so hard to automate it). I can quickly scan over my sites and see if anyone of them is different and fix it. If for someone reason I'm allowing WebDav on one and not on another I can put custom comments in. It would take me a day or two to do what I need to do in IIS what I can do under mod_mono in an hour. Granted its not the best solution for a person wanting to put a site and go and make little changes here and there when they want too, but after the learning curve the benefit is clear. I love the the asp.net state management provided under mono as well. Similar to Microsoft's method but not clouded in strange things, its really simple to understand to so you can find out what is going on when a server isn't responding to your session keys correctly. Its all manageable from this aspect :-) Hope that helps. -- Zac Bowling Mono Project Contributor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions expressed do not necessarily represent that of Novell, my employer, other people related to the mono project, my self, the little people in my head, my mom, my dog, my cat, my fish, Bill Gates, the President of United States, my neighbors, my attorney, the Blue Man Group, the Deparment of Justice, and Greenpeace. Most of what I say is a lie. Even this. So you can't believe me when I tell you that you can't believe me. Trust me on that one. Finally, by the time you read this sentence you will have already read it. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
