Re: [Mono-docs-list] Manuals and Docs
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 00:49 -0400, Nate Chadwick wrote: Reading this was the first time I noticed that the go-mono.com site was a wiki. It doesn't seem like the create account function works. Is that by design? http://www.mono-project.com/index.php?title=Special:Userloginreturnto=Special:Userlogin Yes, this is by design -- miguel wants to approve all contributors before giving them an account. This is probably to hold down potential Wiki spam, prevent modifications by those hostile to mono, etc... (Actually, anyone who already has an account can create new accounts, so you're not really tied to getting approval from miguel, just any existing account holder.) - Jon ___ Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list
RE: [Mono-docs-list] Manuals and Docs
Makes sense. Might be good to throw some content about that process on the Create account page though. Maybe a link to a how to Contribute Content to the mono project web site page or something like that. Right now it just re-displays the login page making it seem broken. -n -Original Message- From: Jonathan Pryor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 7:10 AM To: Nate Chadwick Cc: mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com; Tony G Subject: Re: [Mono-docs-list] Manuals and Docs On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 00:49 -0400, Nate Chadwick wrote: Reading this was the first time I noticed that the go-mono.com site was a wiki. It doesn't seem like the create account function works. Is that by design? http://www.mono-project.com/index.php?title=Special:Userloginreturnto =Special:Userlogin Yes, this is by design -- miguel wants to approve all contributors before giving them an account. This is probably to hold down potential Wiki spam, prevent modifications by those hostile to mono, etc... (Actually, anyone who already has an account can create new accounts, so you're not really tied to getting approval from miguel, just any existing account holder.) - Jon ___ Mono-docs-list maillist - Mono-docs-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-docs-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Re: DeadLock Problem in ASP.NET (GAMIN)
Hi Robert, I've tried to reproduce your bug... but i can't: by me it works well, i've launched http_load several times and there's no locks: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/essai_prg/http_load-12mar2006 $ ./http_load -parallel 100 -seconds 10 ./url 4165 fetches, 100 max parallel, 845495 bytes, in 10.0046 seconds 203 mean bytes/connection 416.308 fetches/sec, 84510.5 bytes/sec msecs/connect: 0.466466 mean, 33.449 max, 0.05 min msecs/first-response: 235.528 mean, 6545.72 max, 70.354 min HTTP response codes: code 200 -- 4165 My bug, is not related to server load, but it's related to compilation of many aspx page... My bug appears only if gamin is used! Le jeudi 27 avril 2006 14:40 +0200, Robert Jordan a crit : Hubert FONGARNAND wrote: Hi Gonzalo, I've investigated on my deadlock problem. It seems that this problem comes from GAMIN. I explain: I'm running a big (more than 50 aspx, ascx) web application. If I run a precompilation page (see the attached aspx.cs) Mono, will compile about 20 pages, and will lock forever... If you send a SIGQUIT to mod_mono_server you will obtain that some thread do : - tid=0x0xb646bbb0 this=0x0x3893c0: - in (wrapper managed-to-native) System.IO.FAMWatcher:gamin_MonitorDirectory (System.IO.FAMConnection,string,System.IO.FAMRequest,intptr) 0x4 - in (wrapper managed-to-native) System.IO.FAMWatcher:gamin_MonitorDirectory (System.IO.FAMConnection,string,System.IO.FAMRequest,intptr) 0xffbf - in System.IO.FAMWatcher:FAMMonitorDirectory (System.IO.FAMConnection,string,System.IO.FAMRequest,intptr) 0x1f - in System.IO.FAMWatcher:StartMonitoringDirectory (System.IO.FAMData,bool) 0x7d - in System.IO.FAMWatcher:StartDispatching (System.IO.FileSystemWatcher) 0x192 - in System.IO.FileSystemWatcher:Start () 0x17 - in System.IO.FileSystemWatcher:set_EnableRaisingEvents (bool) 0x27 - in (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.IO.FileSystemWatcher:set_EnableRaisingEvents (bool) 0xffba2006 So the gamin_MonitorDirectory will never end and block all the other thread... The only way to force compilation contunation is to kill gam_server... The compilation will continue, compile 5 page, and will block again!! I've tried to remove gamin from my linux... and suprise!!! It work well, without gamin! Is there a way to tell mono, not to use gamin, for FAMWatcher, even if gamin is installed? My version of gamin, is the last one: 0.1.7 Set the env var MONO_MANAGED_WATCHER=1 BTW, can you reproduce this one? http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=78029 It's a similar (?) compilation issue that occurs even with the default managed watcher. Robert ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___Ce message et les éventuels documents joints peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles.Au cas où il ne vous serait pas destiné, nous vous remercions de bien vouloir le supprimer et en aviser immédiatement l'expéditeur. Toute utilisation de ce message non conforme à sa destination, toute diffusion ou publication, totale ou partielle et quel qu'en soit le moyen est formellement interdite.Les communications sur internet n'étant pas sécurisées, l'intégrité de ce message n'est pas assurée et la société émettrice ne peut être tenue pour responsable de son contenu. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Template and assignment operator in C#
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:20 -0700, Rusmin Susanto wrote: 1. Is there any trick in C# similar to Expression Template in C++ to avoid pairwise evaluation? No yet. Expression Templates are possible in C++ because templates are a turing-complete sub-language within C++; C++ templates were never designed to support expression templates, it was just a discovery that expression templates were possible within the C++ template system. C# generics do not contain such flexibility (by design). C# 3.0 may be able to support something similar (maybe), via the ExpressionT classes, which causes the compiler to generate an ExpressionT tree instead of IL for a given expression, e.g. ExpressionT e = x = x + 1; This is to permit DLINQ to grab the actual expression entered by the user and convert it to SQL. It's conceivable that this mechanism could be used to fake expression templates, allowing some method to examine the actual expression and optimize it for your particular classes. However, this would only be possible within C# 3.0, which isn't finalized (or otherwise remotely close to shipping). 2. Is template processed at compile time or run time in C#? I know that in C++ it's processed at compile time. It depends on what you mean by processed. Generic types are processed by the C# compiler (compile time) to ensure type safety, checking that e.g. strings are actually inserted into a Liststring. Generic types are processed by the JIT compiler as well (run time) when inflating the class (producing the actual Liststring type for use at runtime). This permits optimal code reuse (Liststring uses the same JITed code as Listobject and ListOtherReferenceTypes) across assemblies, while the C++ approach requires code duplication between assemblies. 3. I know that in C# the assignment operator '=' for object will copy the reference of rhs to the lhs. How about if we need to define an assignment operator for an object that needs to copy the value of member variables (not reference) of rhs to lhs? How do we tell C# to copy value, not reference? You don't use the assignment operator, you use a method: lhs.Assign (rhs); // or Copy, or some other method name... Ultimately, this is what C++/CLI is doing for you under the covers as well... - Jon ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
Download the Windows installer from the downloads section of the mono website (http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads). You probably want the Mono for Windows, Gtk# and XSP link. Both .NET and Mono include a compiler since it's necessary for a working setup. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GaoXianchao Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 PM To: rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? I have the same question. 2006/4/28, rolandpish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone. I want to install the Mono runtime on a Windows XP machine. I don't want to install compilers, gui designers, etc..., only runtime. Is there a way to do this? What is the correct procedure? Thanks for your help Regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-install-only-the-MonoRuntim e-on-a-Windows-PC--t1520427.html#a4128416 Sent from the Mono - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] Unable to build from svn
Hi, I've just downloaded an update from the anonsvn developer branch and can't compile. libgdiplus builds fine, but I'm getting this with Mono os_dep.c:20:30: error: linux/version.h: No such file or directory In file included from os_dep.c:27: /usr/include/asm/signal.h:5:27: error: linux/linkage.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/include/asm/signal.h:6, from os_dep.c:27: /usr/include/linux/time.h:9: error: redefinition of 'struct timespec' /usr/include/linux/time.h:15: error: redefinition of 'struct timeval' /usr/include/linux/time.h:42: error: redefinition of 'struct itimerspec' In file included from os_dep.c:27: /usr/include/asm/signal.h:15: error: conflicting types for 'sigset_t' /usr/include/signal.h:50: error: previous declaration of 'sigset_t' was here In file included from os_dep.c:27: /usr/include/asm/signal.h:101: error: redefinition of 'struct sigaction' /usr/include/asm/signal.h:115: error: redefinition of 'struct sigaltstack' os_dep.c: In function 'GC_disable_signals': os_dep.c:565: warning: 'sigsetmask' is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/signal.h:184) os_dep.c: In function 'GC_enable_signals': os_dep.c:574: warning: 'sigsetmask' is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/signal.h:184) make[3]: *** [os_dep.lo] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 Everything built fine yesterday. Any ideas? TTFN Paul -- Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority - Dr Who ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] YouTranslate! v1.1.6 available
In this new version: - added BabelFish Yahoo to the Translation Service Providers - now YT uses the systray of the window Manager As usual: http://laas.altervista.org/youtranslate/ytindex.php Bye -- Salvatore -| LAAS --| http://laas.altervista.org | ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Another Google Summer of Code possible project
On 4/27/06, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would really love seeing a Parrot VM built on top of Mono. Something similar to what IKVM does for Java, but for the future Perl VM/bytecode instead of the Java ones. I don't know if the Parrot specs are stable enough so that a work of this kind is really worth doing, but if they are this should be really interesting IMHO.Someone mentioned yesterday that there is some sort of new compiler forPerl 6, and that it could target the CIL. Does anyone have any pointers to this work?Is it part of Parrot, or isit part of something else?I only know about the .net bytecode to parrot bytecode translator http://www.jwcs.net/~jonathan/vm/mydissertation.shtml-- developer flamerobin.org ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] Re: Summer of code suggestion
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 08:33 -0400, +mono-list+tracyanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:18:59 -0600 From: Peter Dennis Bartok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Re: Summer of code suggestion To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mono-list@lists.ximian.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The other thing is I could sell the decision makers at my company on developing for Linux, if I had access to a Windows forms development environment. At the moment I am completely stymied, as they won't even consider the idea of cross platform apps that require GTK being installed on Windows. And yes being able to move preexisting MS Windows Win Forms .NET Apps to Linux could be done quite easily if the WinForms environment was available. What do you mean If the WinForms environment was available. It is available. Cheers, Peter We must have different MonoDevelops, because the only graphical interface I can find is for GTK#. Regards Tracy Barlow ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Re: Summer of code suggestion
Hi, On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 23:14 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We must have different MonoDevelops, because the only graphical interface I can find is for GTK#. You can certainly use SWF within Monodevelop. However, what it doesn't have is a forms designer. TTFN Paul -- Logic, my dear Zoe, is merely the ability to be wrong with authority - Dr Who ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] RE: What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows
Thanks! I think I'll have to install mono as I normally do. Regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-install-only-the-MonoRuntime-on-a-Windows-PC--t1520427.html#a4141144 Sent from the Mono - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
Even if .Net redistributable contains a compiler, my question for redistributing mono on windows is about licensing. If I redistribute mono on windows using the current installer (which in includes the compilers), wouldn't that invoke the GPL (since the mono compilers are GPL)? Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:40 AM To: 'GaoXianchao'; 'rolandpish' Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Download the Windows installer from the downloads section of the mono website (http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads). You probably want the Mono for Windows, Gtk# and XSP link. Both .NET and Mono include a compiler since it's necessary for a working setup. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GaoXianchao Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 PM To: rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? I have the same question. 2006/4/28, rolandpish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone. I want to install the Mono runtime on a Windows XP machine. I don't want to install compilers, gui designers, etc..., only runtime. Is there a way to do this? What is the correct procedure? Thanks for your help Regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-install-only-the- MonoRuntim e-on-a-Windows-PC--t1520427.html#a4128416 Sent from the Mono - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] running a bash script from mono?
Hey, I am a newbie using Mono. I am using mono to create a gui frontend for some bash scripts that I use to maintain my lab. I would like to know how I can call my bash scripts using mono. Once the user enters their options on the form then these will be sent as parameters to my bash script and then the bash script will process the information. This is where I got stuck since I have not found any example on how to do this. Can anyone please help me ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] ASN1Viewer port
Hi, I'm very happy you're glad to know about this port. Right now I'm looking to substitute the TextBox control used for another that simply allows to do syntax higligthing and searchs. At the beginning thougth about the text editor included in SharpDevelop, but guess that is too big for the task. Maybe if I try to extend the RichTextBox control About ASN.1 decoder, guess I was wrong about Mono.Security.ASN1 class, at first look seems to be the replacement for ASN1Element but was just a vague idea :P Regards, Martín Trejo Chávez http://chilli-coder.blogspot.com http://www.chillicoder.com - Original Message - From: Sebastien Pouliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martín Trejo Chávez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Mono-list] ASN1Viewer port Hello Martin, On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 08:13 -0500, Martín Trejo Chávez wrote: Hi, Yesterday just finished the initial Winforms port of Sebastian Pouliout's ASN1View. As far it goes, is quite a direct translation. Great news! There is no highligthing nor find bar but works ok for my current needs. When complete we could look at including it into SVN (where it could be build side-by-side with the GTK# gui version). Also run it with Paco's VS plugin and worked ok with Mono 1.1.15 but no so with 1.1.13.6. A lot of SWF fixes are only occurring on HEAD. The next step is modify to use the latest Mono.Security classes. I got interested because a recent engagement for a security library. The new ASN.1 decoder is still not included in Mono.Security. There are other changes I need to make to it before that (and I don't want to commit to the new API just yet). This will be done for Mono 2.0. -- Sebastien Pouliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://pages.infinit.net/ctech/ ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] .NET Technologies 2006 - Call for Participation
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION --- .NET TECHNOLOGIES 2006 4th International Conference on .NET Technologies University of West Bohemia Pilsen (Czech Republic) May 29-June 1, 2006 http://dotnet.zcu.cz --- SCOPE AND OBJECTIVES -- The 4rd International Conference on .NET Technologies aims at bringing together practitioners and researchers from academia and the industry to discuss the latest developments in .NET and advance the state of the art in the research on related technologies. Interest in these topics has been continuously growing as a consequence of the importance and the ubiquity of object-oriented technologies. .NET Technologies 2006 builds upon the positive experience of the previous editions of the event, held in Plzen in February 2003, May 2004 and May 2005. TOPICS --- Original papers describing theoretical and practical results (experience reports and case studies) are solicited in the following areas, but not restricted to: - SOFTWARE ENGINEERING: software components, large-scale software, software correctness, software security, compiling techniques - PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES AND TECHNIQUES: object-oriented techniques, programming paradigms, multi-language programming, compitation techniques - PARALLEL AND DISTRIBUTED COMPUTING: multithreading, distributed applications, high-performance computing, web services, - VIRTUAL MACHINES AND BYTECODE, - ASPECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING AND DEVELOPMENT, - ALGORITHMS AND DATA STRUCTURES, - EDUCATIONAL ASPECTS: teaching object-oriented paradigm with .NET, educational software, - HUMAN COMPUTER INTERFACES: computer graphics, virtual reality with .NET, - SUPPORT FOR .NET ON UNIX: Mono project, ROTOR, DotGNU, Portable.NET, - APPLICATONS of .NET platform - OTHER TOPICS RELATED TO .NET. SUBMISSION GUIDELINES -- Submitted papers must not have been published or concurrently submitted/considered for publication elsewhere. All submissions will be judged on the basis of originality, contribution to the field, technical and presentation quality, and relevance to the conference. Each paper will be refereed by at least 3 reviewers. Presented papers will be included in the conference proceedings with ISBN. Papers should be written in English and not exceed 8 pages in A4 format. Further information and instructions about submissions can be found on the conference website. PUBLICATION - The best papers presented at the conference will be published in the Journal of .NET Technology ISSN 1801-2108. Full, short communication papers and posters will be published in proceedings with ISBN. IMPORTANT DATES - Abstract submission: February 21, 2006 (recommended) Paper submission: February 28, 2006 Author notification: April 14, 2006 Camera-ready papers due: April 30, 2006 Venue: May 29 - June 1, 2006 Proceedings will be available at http://dotnet.zcu.cz after the conference.Printed proceedings will be produced for indexing/citation purposes and on request only. CONFERENCE CO-CHAIR - Knoop, Jens (Institute of Computer Languages, Vienna University of Technology, Vienna, Austria)Skala, Vaclav (Department of Computer Science, University of West Bohemia, Plzen, Czech Republic) PROGRAMME COMMITTEE - Aksit, Mehmet (University of Twente, The Netherlands)Giuseppe, Attardi (University of Pisa, Italy)Gough, John (Queensland University of Technology, Australia)Huisman, Marieke (INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France)Knoop, Jens (Vienna University of Technology, Austria)Lengauer, Christian (University of Passau, Germany)Lewis, Brian,T. (Intel Corp., USA)Meijer, Erik (Microsoft, USA) Midkiff, Sam (Purdue University, USA)Ortin, Francisco (University of Oviedo, Spain)Safonov, Vladimir (St. Petersburg University, Russia)Scholz, Bernhard (The University of Sydney, Australia)Siegemund, Frank (European Microsoft Innovation Center, Germany)Skala, Vaclav (University of West Bohemia, Czech Republic)Srisa-an, Witawas (University of Nebraska-Lincoln, USA)Sturm, Peter (University of Trier, Germany)Sullivan, Kevin (University of Virginia, USA)van den Brand, Mark (Technical University of Eindhoven, The Netherlands)Vaswani, Kapil (Indian Institute of Science, India) Veiga, Luis (INESC-ID, Portugal) WEBSITE AND CONTACT For all additional information and information on previous events, please visit the website at http://dotnet.zcu.cz prof.Vaclav Skala, c/o University of West Bohemia, .NET Technologies 2006 conference office Univerzitni 8, Box 314, CZ 306 14 Plzen, Czech Republic [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: dotnet http://herakles.zcu.cz
[Mono-list] Re: running a bash script from mono?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I am a newbie using Mono. I am using mono to create a gui frontend for some bash scripts that I use to maintain my lab. I would like to know how I can call my bash scripts using mono. Once the user enters their options on the form then these will be sent as parameters to my bash script and then the bash script will process the information. This is where I got stuck since I have not found any example on how to do this. Can anyone please help me Have a look at System.Diagnostics.Process. Process p = Process.Start(your-shell-script, the args ...); p.WaitForExit (); Robert ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
As an afterthought, I should also point out that the mono libraries are probably mostly licensed as GPL as well. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: Jonathan S. Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GaoXianchao; rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Even if .Net redistributable contains a compiler, my question for redistributing mono on windows is about licensing. If I redistribute mono on windows using the current installer (which in includes the compilers), wouldn't that invoke the GPL (since the mono compilers are GPL)? Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:40 AM To: 'GaoXianchao'; 'rolandpish' Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Download the Windows installer from the downloads section of the mono website (http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads). You probably want the Mono for Windows, Gtk# and XSP link. Both .NET and Mono include a compiler since it's necessary for a working setup. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GaoXianchao Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 PM To: rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? I have the same question. 2006/4/28, rolandpish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone. I want to install the Mono runtime on a Windows XP machine. I don't want to install compilers, gui designers, etc..., only runtime. Is there a way to do this? What is the correct procedure? Thanks for your help Regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-install-only-the- MonoRuntim e-on-a-Windows-PC--t1520427.html#a4128416 Sent from the Mono - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
What do you mean by Invoke the GPL? Let me preface this by saying that I'm not a lawyer or a legal expert, however I believe that if you mention that the source is available on www.mono-project.org you should be covered if you want to distribute mono with your software. If you distribute a derived work (ie change the code), then you'll need to post the source for that derived work online. I should also point out that things compiled by mono aren't required to be licensed in any particular way. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: Jonathan S. Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GaoXianchao; rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Even if .Net redistributable contains a compiler, my question for redistributing mono on windows is about licensing. If I redistribute mono on windows using the current installer (which in includes the compilers), wouldn't that invoke the GPL (since the mono compilers are GPL)? Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:40 AM To: 'GaoXianchao'; 'rolandpish' Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Download the Windows installer from the downloads section of the mono website (http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads). You probably want the Mono for Windows, Gtk# and XSP link. Both .NET and Mono include a compiler since it's necessary for a working setup. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GaoXianchao Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 PM To: rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? I have the same question. 2006/4/28, rolandpish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone. I want to install the Mono runtime on a Windows XP machine. I don't want to install compilers, gui designers, etc..., only runtime. Is there a way to do this? What is the correct procedure? Thanks for your help Regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-install-only-the- MonoRuntim e-on-a-Windows-PC--t1520427.html#a4128416 Sent from the Mono - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
FYI, only compiler and tools are GPL: http://www.mono-project.com/FAQ:_Licensing My little app doesn't need the compiler (as well as some other components). So, I'm trying to save some size and avoid redistributing anything GPL since I don't necessarily completely understand it :-). Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:01 PM To: Jonathan S. Chambers; 'GaoXianchao'; 'rolandpish' Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? As an afterthought, I should also point out that the mono libraries are probably mostly licensed as GPL as well. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: Jonathan S. Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GaoXianchao; rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Even if .Net redistributable contains a compiler, my question for redistributing mono on windows is about licensing. If I redistribute mono on windows using the current installer (which in includes the compilers), wouldn't that invoke the GPL (since the mono compilers are GPL)? Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:40 AM To: 'GaoXianchao'; 'rolandpish' Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Download the Windows installer from the downloads section of the mono website (http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads). You probably want the Mono for Windows, Gtk# and XSP link. Both .NET and Mono include a compiler since it's necessary for a working setup. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GaoXianchao Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 PM To: rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? I have the same question. 2006/4/28, rolandpish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone. I want to install the Mono runtime on a Windows XP machine. I don't want to install compilers, gui designers, etc..., only runtime. Is there a way to do this? What is the correct procedure? Thanks for your help Regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-install-only-the- MonoRuntim e-on-a-Windows-PC--t1520427.html#a4128416 Sent from the Mono - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
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On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 12:47 -0400, +mono-list+tracyanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:17:18 +0100 From: PFJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Re: Summer of code suggestion To: mono mono-list@lists.ximian.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Hi, On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 23:14 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We must have different MonoDevelops, because the only graphical interface I can find is for GTK#. You can certainly use SWF within Monodevelop. However, what it doesn't have is a forms designer. TTFN Paul That's why I can't sell it. regards Tracy Barlow ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
I understand, you need the compiler though since mono uses a JIT (just in time compiler), which means that it doesn't actually compile to bit code until just before it runs (before that it compiles to and intermediate language which is abbreviated to IL).Once again, I'm not a lawyer but as long as you make sure to mention where a user can get the mono source and you should be in compliance with the GPL. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: Jonathan S. Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GaoXianchao; rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? FYI, only compiler and tools are GPL: http://www.mono-project.com/FAQ:_Licensing My little app doesn't need the compiler (as well as some other components). So, I'm trying to save some size and avoid redistributing anything GPL since I don't necessarily completely understand it :-). Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:01 PM To: Jonathan S. Chambers; 'GaoXianchao'; 'rolandpish' Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? As an afterthought, I should also point out that the mono libraries are probably mostly licensed as GPL as well. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: Jonathan S. Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GaoXianchao; rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Even if .Net redistributable contains a compiler, my question for redistributing mono on windows is about licensing. If I redistribute mono on windows using the current installer (which in includes the compilers), wouldn't that invoke the GPL (since the mono compilers are GPL)? Thanks, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:40 AM To: 'GaoXianchao'; 'rolandpish' Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? Download the Windows installer from the downloads section of the mono website (http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads). You probably want the Mono for Windows, Gtk# and XSP link. Both .NET and Mono include a compiler since it's necessary for a working setup. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GaoXianchao Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 PM To: rolandpish Cc: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install only theMonoRuntime on a Windows PC? I have the same question. 2006/4/28, rolandpish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone. I want to install the Mono runtime on a Windows XP machine. I don't want to install compilers, gui designers, etc..., only runtime. Is there a way to do this? What is the correct procedure? Thanks for your help Regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-is-the-correct-way-to-install-only-the- MonoRuntim e-on-a-Windows-PC--t1520427.html#a4128416 Sent from the Mono - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntimeon a Windows PC?
There are a lot of different versions of the GPL in existence so exactly when you have to distribute the code depends a lot on which one you're using. I can't think of a single case where providing a web site with that code doesn't fulfill the criterion, so I usually just stick to that. -Matt McDonald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodolfo Campero Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:17 PM To: mono-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntimeon a Windows PC? Hello, On 4/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by Invoke the GPL? Let me preface this by saying that I'm not a lawyer or a legal expert, however I believe that if you mention that the source is available on www.mono-project.org you should be covered if you want to distribute mono with your software. If you distribute a derived work (ie change the code), then you'll need to post the source for that derived work online. (IANAL) IMO, that's not quite correct. Actually, if you produce and distribute a derived work of a GPL-licensed product then you must make the source code available *for whom you distributed said derived work*. This means that you can take a piece of GPL'd code, modify it, and then sell copies without giving away the source code, BUT as soon as some of your customers request it, you are forced to give him/her the complete source code. On the other hand, if someone else (who didn't receive a copy from you) asks you for the modified code, you're allowed to deny the request. Fell free to correct me if I'm wrong. I should also point out that things compiled by mono aren't required to be licensed in any particular way. -Matt McDonald ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
As an afterthought, I should also point out that the mono libraries are probably mostly licensed as GPL as well. They are not, you are wrong. They are MIT/X11. Miguel ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
RE: [Mono-list] What is the correct way to install onlytheMonoRuntime on a Windows PC?
Hello, I understand, you need the compiler though since mono uses a JIT (just in time compiler), which means that it doesn't actually compile to bit code until just before it runs (before that it compiles to and intermediate language which is abbreviated to IL).Once again, I'm not a lawyer but as long as you make sure to mention where a user can get the mono source and you should be in compliance with the GPL. You are wrong again. The compilers covered under the GPL are C# and VB.NET. The JIT and runtime are under the LGPL (its all listed there), so there is no requirement of any kind to redistribute any source. Miguel ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
