Re: [Mono-list] Ubuntu

2010-08-09 Thread Bojan Rajkovic
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:48 PM, green  wrote:

>
> why newer versions of mono cant be installed on ubuntu?
> if a framework is done well(not modifying interfaces, existing functions,
> etc), new releases would'nt break old applications.
>

Novell doesn't support Ubuntu, likely due to cost reasons--they'd pretty
much need to hire at least one more, maybe two more people to do
Debian-style packaging for Debian and Ubuntu. RPM-based distros like Red
Hat, etc. are easy, because they can modify SuSE .spec files as necessary.

This is not to say that updates to Mono can't be installed on Ubuntu. The
community packagers for Debbuntu do a good job of getting Mono releases out
shortly after the official release drops. You can find fairly up-to-date
releases for Ubuntu at http://badgerports.com, and Debian has up-to-date
releases in the experimental distribution. The reason that the official
Ubuntu repositories don't update faster is that Mono is a core framework,
and as such, requires extensive testing before it can be upgraded--due to
Ubuntu's policies, it's not likely that you'll ever see an updated Mono come
in through {distribution}-backports or any of the other update repos,
barring major security fixes, etc.


>
> another question, why the forum keeps refreshing all the time, also during
> posting? its annoying.
>

Nabble bug? Using the mailing list directly is much more convenient.


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[Mono-list] Ubuntu

2010-08-09 Thread green

why newer versions of mono cant be installed on ubuntu?
if a framework is done well(not modifying interfaces, existing functions,
etc), new releases would'nt break old applications.

another question, why the forum keeps refreshing all the time, also during
posting? its annoying.

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Re: [Mono-list] Segmentation Faults when trying to run OBD 2007.exe

2010-08-09 Thread Robert Jordan
On 09.08.2010 03:36, LEGOManiac wrote:
>
> Greetings. Mono needs a forum for us total newbies to post questions about
> applications to.

This is a tough area because Mono is not an emulator. This means
that applications must be sometimes ported to be able to run under
Mono. Usually, only the developer or a skilled mono hacker is able
to do this work, but the latter is rather unlikely to happen, given
that the app you're trying to run is a commercial one.

> I'm after the PC version. I already own it (I bought it) for use on a Vista
> laptop, but the laptop died prematurely and it's replacement runs Ubuntu
> 10.04 / Wine2.0 / Mono 2.4.4
>
> Mono Version:
> Mono JIT compiler version 2.4.4 (Debian 2.4.4~svn151842-1ubuntu4)
> Copyright (C) 2002-2010 Novell, Inc and Contributors. www.mono-project.com
>   TLS:   __thread
>   GC:Included Boehm (with typed GC)
>   SIGSEGV:   altstack
>   Notifications: epoll
>   Architecture:  x86
>   Disabled:  none

Are you aware that this is the Linux version of Mono? It
doesn't pay attention to Wine at all.

This means that only fully managed .NET applications are likely
to run.

Maybe you'd have more luck with Mono for Windows under Wine,
but this a totally different story. Not many people (if any)
on this list are using this combination, so you'd have to look
for help on Wine's mailing links/forums.

Robert

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