Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing

2014-11-20 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
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> boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of aleksit
> 
> Hey
> What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of
> mono ?
> Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I need
> to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project
> for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ?

You only need to be concerned about the license terms if you plan on 
redistributing it.  But you're probably just writing an application that RUNS 
on ASP.Net.  So the consumer would install ASP.Net, and then download your 
application separately, and then run your application on it - meaning - you're 
not redistributing ASP.Net and therefore don't need to worry about its license 
terms.

ASP.Net is purely mono, and not related to Xamarin.
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Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing

2014-11-20 Thread William Ivanski
I think Martin is right. Reading mono license, at first glance is possible
to see that everybody can use mono to develop, build and host ASP.NET
websites (WebForms or MVC) for commercial purposes.

I already developed some ASP.NET applications and run then on mono for
personal and freelance purposes.

But I'm considering buying one Xamarin license for two reasons: I want to
start to develop applications for Android, and I'm looking for a way to
retribute to the mono project. I know that contributing to Xamarin, Xamarin
people would have more resources to work on mono improve, fix bugs and so
on.

William Ivanski

2014-11-20 14:14 GMT-02:00 Martin Thwaites :

> Does this not cover it?
>
> https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/LICENSE
>
> (Note, I'm not a legal expert so if you're concerned in anyway, get you
> lawyer to look into it)
>
> You've got to look at the individual libraries you're using though.  If
> they are Mono libraries, chances are they are MIT/X11, so you're safe, and
> we are more open that the microsoft licencing.  Give that it's a very, very
> (add 20 or so more "very"s there) common framework to build websites, I'd
> say that yes you can build a piece of commercial software with it.
>
> That said, you would need to be more specific.  Using the libraries in
> .NET or mono should not be a problem in terms of building a commercial
> website without any acknowledgement in my opinion.  I've built major
> websites using .NET and the ASP.NET framework (WebForms and MVC), and our
> legal department never raised an eyebrow.
>
> That said, is it not always nice to acknowledge people's hard work and
> give credit where it's due?
>
> Mono is NOT Xamarin.  Xamarin do something very specific with Mobile.
> Xamarin's offerings use Mono under the hood, and therefore they commit any
> changes/enhancements back to the mono project.  Anything on GitHub is not
> owned by Xamarin (as I understand it, and check the licences if you're
> unsure), therefore they cannot (nor would they want to) force you to buy a
> licence to use them.
>
> Hope that helps
> Martin
>
> On 20 November 2014 16:00, William Ivanski 
> wrote:
>
>> Great question, I would like to know that too.
>>
>> William Ivanski
>>
>> 2014-11-20 9:13 GMT-02:00 aleksit :
>>
>> Hey
>>> What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses
>>> of
>>> mono ?
>>> Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I
>>> need
>>> to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my
>>> project
>>> for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Thwaites
Does this not cover it?

https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/LICENSE

(Note, I'm not a legal expert so if you're concerned in anyway, get you
lawyer to look into it)

You've got to look at the individual libraries you're using though.  If
they are Mono libraries, chances are they are MIT/X11, so you're safe, and
we are more open that the microsoft licencing.  Give that it's a very, very
(add 20 or so more "very"s there) common framework to build websites, I'd
say that yes you can build a piece of commercial software with it.

That said, you would need to be more specific.  Using the libraries in .NET
or mono should not be a problem in terms of building a commercial website
without any acknowledgement in my opinion.  I've built major websites using
.NET and the ASP.NET framework (WebForms and MVC), and our legal department
never raised an eyebrow.

That said, is it not always nice to acknowledge people's hard work and give
credit where it's due?

Mono is NOT Xamarin.  Xamarin do something very specific with Mobile.
Xamarin's offerings use Mono under the hood, and therefore they commit any
changes/enhancements back to the mono project.  Anything on GitHub is not
owned by Xamarin (as I understand it, and check the licences if you're
unsure), therefore they cannot (nor would they want to) force you to buy a
licence to use them.

Hope that helps
Martin

On 20 November 2014 16:00, William Ivanski 
wrote:

> Great question, I would like to know that too.
>
> William Ivanski
>
> 2014-11-20 9:13 GMT-02:00 aleksit :
>
> Hey
>> What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of
>> mono ?
>> Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I
>> need
>> to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my
>> project
>> for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Mono-list] Binding Cocoa examples?

2014-11-20 Thread Michael McGlothlin
Where is the BaseType attribute defined? Xamarin Studio doesn't seem to include 
it in either Mono or Xamarin Mac versions. The only binding template I see is 
for iOS.


Thanks,
Michael McGlothlin
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Miguel de Icaza  wrote:
> 
> hey,
> 
> You can see it here:
> 
> http://github.com/mono/monomac
> 
> Go to "src/appkit.cs" to see the binding for NSView.
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Michael McGlothlin 
>>  wrote:
>> I'm trying to figure out how to bind to obj-c and c and for my first 
>> exercise I decided to bind to Apple's ScreenSaverView and make a 
>> screensaver. I'm trying to do this with Xamarin Studio and their Sharpie app 
>> but not having much luck. Where can I look to see Mono's actual binding to 
>> classes such as NSView? What I'd actually do I mean and not something 
>> generated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Michael McGlothlin
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Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing

2014-11-20 Thread William Ivanski
Great question, I would like to know that too.

William Ivanski

2014-11-20 9:13 GMT-02:00 aleksit :

> Hey
> What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of
> mono ?
> Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I
> need
> to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project
> for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ?
>
>
>
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Re: [Mono-list] Raspberry for the C# program

2014-11-20 Thread Wayne Douglas
Mono is very, very good on Linux, I am using it as my main platform for
personal and freelance projects. There are some issues - it is not 100%
perfect but it is very, very good and reasonably stable.

Unfortunately I am stuck with Windows for corporate development for the
foreseeable future but I hope that will change at some point :)



On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Agustin Gimenez  wrote:

> Hi Jagroop.
>
> There are many solutions, I'm on the process of creating a framework to
> manipulate the Raspberry hardware from C#, you can find it at
> https://github.com/gusmanb/RaspiSharp
>
> It's the starting point and i'm evolving it a lot, so expect breaking
> changes in near future.
>
> To install mono on the Rpi just execute this:
>
> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get update*
> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get install mono-complete*
>
> It will install the 3.2.8 version which includes hardware floating point
> functions and works really well.
>
> After that you have a fully functional mono installation, to run any .net
> program execute sudo mono (yourexename)
>
> Cheers.
>
> 2014-11-20 12:26 GMT+01:00 jagroop77 :
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> We have a application where we have to capture some data from the field
>> and
>> process.
>> So, we decided to use Raspberry which is on Linux.
>> For processing we want to use C# program.I came to know that with MONO the
>> C# program can run on Linux OS.
>>
>> Is it a good idea or do you suggest some new solution.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Jagroop
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Mono-list] Raspberry for the C# program

2014-11-20 Thread Agustin Gimenez
Hi Jagroop.

There are many solutions, I'm on the process of creating a framework to
manipulate the Raspberry hardware from C#, you can find it at
https://github.com/gusmanb/RaspiSharp

It's the starting point and i'm evolving it a lot, so expect breaking
changes in near future.

To install mono on the Rpi just execute this:

pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get update*
pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get install mono-complete*

It will install the 3.2.8 version which includes hardware floating point
functions and works really well.

After that you have a fully functional mono installation, to run any .net
program execute sudo mono (yourexename)

Cheers.

2014-11-20 12:26 GMT+01:00 jagroop77 :

> Dear Friends,
>
> We have a application where we have to capture some data from the field and
> process.
> So, we decided to use Raspberry which is on Linux.
> For processing we want to use C# program.I came to know that with MONO the
> C# program can run on Linux OS.
>
> Is it a good idea or do you suggest some new solution.
>
> cheers
>
> Jagroop
>
>
>
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[Mono-list] Raspberry for the C# program

2014-11-20 Thread jagroop77
Dear Friends,

We have a application where we have to capture some data from the field and
process.
So, we decided to use Raspberry which is on Linux.
For processing we want to use C# program.I came to know that with MONO the
C# program can run on Linux OS.

Is it a good idea or do you suggest some new solution.

cheers

Jagroop



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[Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing

2014-11-20 Thread aleksit
Hey
What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of
mono ? 
Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I need
to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project
for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ?



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Re: [Mono-list] Cross-Platform GUI Tookit

2014-11-20 Thread Lluis Sanchez Gual
Xamarin Studio / MonoDevelop is not really going to use MVVM, it will use MVC.

> El 18/11/2014, a les 21:33, Daniel Hughes  va escriure:
> 
> Jonathan can you comment on Xamarins plans for MVVM with Xamarin
> Studio/MonoDevelop, can we expect GTK# support to be added to
> MVVMCross, or is there some other approach you will be taking.
> 
> Cheers,
> Daniel Hughes
> 
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Jonathan Pryor  wrote:
>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:55 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) 
>>  wrote:
>>> The fact that XS/MD is or was based on Xwt is a good sign
>> 
>> "based on" might be a bit strong. It *uses* Xwt.
>> 
>> Most of the current Xamarin Studio/MonoDevelop code is based on Gtk#. 
>> *Parts* were done in Xwt so that those parts could use the platform-native 
>> UI and share code with Visual Studio (e.g. File > Open, the Android 
>> designer), but most was written in, and continues to be in, Gtk#.
>> 
>> - Jon
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