RE: [Mono-list] mono wsdl.exe gags on eBay SOAP WSDL

2004-05-20 Thread Jeffrey McManus
Submitted as #58777. Thanks!

-J.

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 On dj, 2004-05-20 at 06:43, Jeffrey McManus wrote:
  Hey guys,
  
  I'm trying to see if I can use Mono to write an app that 
 consumes the SOAP
  API provided by my employer. I'm not having any luck. After trying
  unsuccessfully to use mcs to compile a command-line C# app originally
  written with Visual Studio .NET on Windows, I decided it might 
 make sense to
  just use mono's wsdl.exe utility to create a SOAP client 
 wrapper class that
  would be more to mono's liking.
  
  But the command:
  
wsdl.exe http://developer.ebay.com/webservices/latest/eBaySvc.wsdl
  
  provides no output (besides the Mono Web Services Description Language
  Utility header), and no error message. 
 
 This looks like a bug in the wsdl tool. Can you please file the bug in
 bugzilla.ximian.com?
 
 Thanks!
 Lluis.
 
  Running the utility on a known-good
  WSDL file (such as
  http://www.gama-system.com/webservices/stockquotes.asmx?wsdl) 
 does generate
  the expected client wrapper class on my system (which is Windows XP).
  
  Any ideas?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jeffrey
  
  
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RE: [Mono-list] I give up

2004-04-08 Thread Jeffrey McManus
I'm interested to know what your (and others') problems with GTK# are and
what you mean by support -- are you finding it difficult to learn, in
other words would better documentation help? Or are you finding it difficult
to use, things aren't working as advertised, that kind of thing?

Jeffrey

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 After trying to work with Mono, Portable.NET, Qt, and KDE, I've
 realized that
 I'm fighting a battle that I cannot win. Mono supports Gtk# (and
 GTK+) to the
 exclusion of any other platform. Portable.NET is behind their own SWF
 implementation, but at least they are a bit more agnostic. The Qt/KDE
 community seems to find the entire concept of C# and its use of
 metadata and
 JIT compilation repulsive.

 I'm tired of trying and failing. I'm tired of having no one to
 support me. I'm
 tired of feeling isolated and alone.

 It's just not worth it. Maybe I will end up Windows XP and .NET.
 Who knows. I
 just know that the Free software community has got to be the most
 hostile and
 intolerant group of people I have ever encountered.
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[Mono-list] evangelizing mono

2004-02-15 Thread Jeffrey McManus
Hey team,

Long-time listener, first-time caller. I wanted to get your advice on
something...I'm helping a high-energy team of Linux ninjas who are
interested in creating an OSS app that makes it easier to sell stuff on
eBay. (Giving developers this kind of help is actually part of my job at
eBay.) These guys just got into the planning stages of their project and are
trying to settle on a choice of language/framework/etc. They want to use a
client/server architecture which actually makes a lot of sense for a variety
of reasons mostly having to do with caching and handling eBay data from
eBay's API in an intelligent way.

It's my intuitive sense that C#/Mono may be a good choice for this kind of
project. Maintainability and developer productivity is a big deal with
custom eBay clients that use the API because eBay changes so frequently, and
I've had to agonize with developers that have made sub-optimal language and
architecture choices in the past and paid for it dearly as their
applications implode repeatedly.

However, they're gravitating to C++, at least for their server piece, which
may be a good choice for the lead developer(s) who I think already knows
C++, but may be a sub-optimal choice for the project in general. I fear that
they may be in when you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail
mode.

One tactical thing they seem to be getting hung up on is the fact that you
need to run Mono apps with a command line (and, secondarily, an executable
that ends in *.exe reeks of evil Windows; I explained to them that this is
what chmod +x is for, but anyway).

My questions are:

 - Do you have good evangelism tactics for Linux developers who evaluate
Mono and find it somehow un-Unix-like?
 - Is there a technical answer to the mono my.exe command-line objection?
 - Is there an elegant solution for distributing the Mono framework onto
client machines today?
 - Are there examples of functioning high-performance client/server apps
running on Mono today?

I suspect that this kind of discussion will be useful in a general-purpose
sense as you take the message of Mono out to the rest of the universe, but
feel free to respond to me privately if you like.

If you're interested, the original discussion is over on the Gentoo forums
here:

  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=123105

Thanks,

Jeffrey

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[Mono-list] evangelizing mono

2004-02-14 Thread Jeffrey McManus
Hey team,

Long-time listener, first-time caller. I wanted to get your advice on
something...I'm helping a high-energy team of Linux ninjas who are
interested in creating an OSS app that makes it easier to sell stuff on
eBay. (Giving developers this kind of help is actually part of my job at
eBay.) These guys just got into the planning stages of their project and are
trying to settle on a choice of language/framework/etc. They want to use a
client/server architecture which actually makes a lot of sense for a variety
of reasons mostly having to do with caching and handling eBay data from
eBay's API in an intelligent way.

It's my intuitive sense that C#/Mono may be a good choice for this kind of
project. Maintainability and developer productivity is a big deal with
custom eBay clients that use the API because eBay changes so frequently, and
I've had to agonize with developers that have made sub-optimal language and
architecture choices in the past and paid for it dearly as their
applications implode repeatedly.

However, they're gravitating to C++, at least for their server piece, which
may be a good choice for the lead developer(s) who I think already knows
C++, but may be a sub-optimal choice for the project in general. I fear that
they may be in when you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail
mode.

One tactical thing they seem to be getting hung up on is the fact that you
need to run Mono apps with a command line (and, secondarily, an executable
that ends in *.exe reeks of evil Windows; I explained to them that this is
what chmod +x is for, but anyway).

My questions are:

 - Do you have good evangelism tactics for Linux developers who evaluate
Mono and find it somehow un-Unix-like?
 - Is there a technical answer to the mono my.exe command-line objection?
 - Is there an elegant solution for distributing the Mono framework onto
client machines today?
 - Are there examples of functioning high-performance client/server apps
running on Mono today?

I suspect that this kind of discussion will be useful in a general-purpose
sense as you take the message of Mono out to the rest of the universe, but
feel free to respond to me privately if you like.

If you're interested, the original discussion is over on the Gentoo forums
here:

  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=123105

Thanks,

Jeffrey


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