[Mono-list] Dependency Problems on Red Carpet Channel?

2004-09-15 Thread billg
Trying to install mono with Red Carpet on a new SuSE 9.1 Pro setup. 
This has always been a piece of cake.  This time around Red Carpet
complains that mono-complete has a failed dependency of
mono-preview. 

Mono-complete is, I think, a new addition that apparently bundles all
the runtime tools. There's another mono-devel package that apparently
contains all the devlopment tools. 

Presumably, there isn't anything in either of these two packages that
isn't contained in the individual packages listed in the channel. So...I
can do a successful mono install by selecting everything else except
mono-complete and mono-devel?  Right?

Thanks.
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[Mono-list] monodoc bails, says can't find browser.exe

2004-08-30 Thread billg
I've spent a few hours today building the source from the download page
on a Slackware machine.  All seems to have built correctly, after some
chasing around.

But, monodoc won't run, producing this error message:

   ** (browser.exe:16942): WARNING **: Could not find assembly gtkhtml-
   sharp, references from /usr/local/lib/monodoc/browser.exe
   (assemblyref_index=6)  Major/Minor: 1,0  Build:   0,0  Token:
   35e10195dab3c99f

   cannot open assembly browser.exe

I built into /usr/local, and browser.exe is alive and well in
/usr/local/lib/monodoc. Where does monodoc expect it be?

Did I forget a PATH incantation?
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Re: [Mono-list] monodoc bails, says can't find browser.exe

2004-08-30 Thread billg
You're right.  I added it with gacutil.  Monodoc launches, but
immediately crashes with an unhandled exception error.  Sigh... It seems
to be upset at gtkhtml.  I'm using libgtkhtml-3.1 I built from source
at ftp.gnome.org. Is that the appropriate version?

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:11:01 -0700, Cory Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 you read that wrong.  you need to find gtkhtml-sharp(.dll),
 browser.exe needs it.

 On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:53:21 -0400, billg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've spent a few hours today building the source from the download
  page on a Slackware machine.  All seems to have built correctly,
  after some chasing around.
 
  But, monodoc won't run, producing this error message:
 
** (browser.exe:16942): WARNING **: Could not find assembly gtkhtml-
sharp, references from /usr/local/lib/monodoc/browser.exe
(assemblyref_index=6)  Major/Minor: 1,0  Build:   0,0  Token:
35e10195dab3c99f
 
cannot open assembly browser.exe
 
  I built into /usr/local, and browser.exe is alive and well in
  /usr/local/lib/monodoc. Where does monodoc expect it be?
 
  Did I forget a PATH incantation?
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RE: [Mono-list] Beginner C# Book

2004-08-26 Thread billg

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:50:24 +0100, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 22:31 -0500, Carl Olsen wrote:
  I have two recommendations, Mono Kickstart (Sams) 
 
 NO. It's way out of date now and really isn't a very good book. (what a
 suprise, a Sams book which isn't very good)
 
  Beginning Visual C# (Wrox).
 
 Another not amazing book.

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RE: [Mono-list] Beginner C# Book

2004-08-26 Thread billg

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:50:24 +0100, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 22:31 -0500, Carl Olsen wrote:
  I have two recommendations, Mono Kickstart (Sams) 
 
 NO. It's way out of date now and really isn't a very good book. (what a
 suprise, a Sams book which isn't very good)
 
  Beginning Visual C# (Wrox).
 
 Another not amazing book.

I picked up and started Sams C# Primer. It dates from 2001, but it
seems to be taking a nice, slow, make-no-assumptions approach.

Wrox books are full of obvious typoes, even in second editions and
later. Who proofreads their stuff?
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[Mono-list] (no subject)

2004-08-24 Thread billg

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:31:42 -0400, Joshua Tauberer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 The existing packaging system with dozens of RPMs may be complicated
 but not difficult. I like it a lot.

  How do you install Mono right now? What do you do to upgrade?

 Yum

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:31:42 -0400, Joshua Tauberer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 The existing packaging system with dozens of RPMs may be complicated
 but not difficult. I like it a lot.

  How do you install Mono right now? What do you do to upgrade?

 Yum

  Is Mono too difficult to install for people new to Linux? For people
  with Linux experience?

 Not if they use yum.

Yum on FC2 always bails out with dependency issues. I used Red Carpet
to get it.

Frankly, yum on Fedora is not easy enough for folks new to Linux, since
it requires a knowledge of yum and how to edit yum.conf. You can never
make it too easy, especially when you're trying to entice people to use
something.

Better to have one file that installs everything.  Package an rpm for
Fedora, an rpm for SUSE, etc. (And a tgz for Slackware would be really
nice, since I've switched back to my ol' friend Slack after playing with
Fedora and face the prospect of building it all from source.) That would
make it a two-click install:  one click to download, another click to
install. Also offer the individual pieces for folks who need to do it
their way.
  Is Mono too difficult to install for people new to Linux? For people
  with Linux experience?

 Not if they use yum.

Yum on FC2 always bails out with dependency issues. I used Red Carpet
to get it.

Frankly, yum on Fedora is not easy enough for folks new to Linux, since
it requires a knowledge of yum and how to edit yum.conf. You can never
make it too easy, especially when you're trying to entice people to use
something.

Better to have one file that installs everything.  Package an rpm for
Fedora, an rpm for SUSE, etc. (And a tgz for Slackware would be really
nice, since I've switched back to my ol' friend Slack after playing with
Fedora and face the prospect of building it all from source.) That would
make it a two-click install:  one click to download, another click to
install. Also offer the individual pieces for folks who need to do it
their way.
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