Re: [Mono-list] Clarification - Features not exposed by System.Windows.Forms

2005-04-03 Thread Bill Medland
On April 1, 2005 11:29 am, Jordi Mas wrote:
 El dv 01 de 04 del 2005 a les 09:32 -0800, en/na Bill Medland
 va

 escriure:
  Does anyone have a URL for any site or wiki article or ...
  that more thoroughly addresses these unexposed features?

 We keep a site with the progress of Mono's managed
 System.Windows.Forms name space implementation:
 I hope this helps.

Unfortunately not.  All that tells me is how well Mono has 
progressed in implementing a deficient model, not what is 
deficient in the model that it is implementing.


 Jordi
(But thanks for replying)

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Re: [Mono-list] Clarification - Features not exposed by System.Windows.Forms

2005-04-02 Thread Jonathan Pryor
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 09:32 -0800, Bill Medland wrote:
 On the www.mono-project.com/Gui_Tookits page (and on Miguel's orginal page) I 
 note the quotes that SWF is not complete enough for many tasks and there is 
 mention of features which are not exposed by Windows.Forms.
 
 This agrees with what I have read in the past about the Win32 API and SWF, 
 and 
 my own gut feel based on the small amount of Win32 UI stuff I have done, 
 compared to the stuff I used to do with Motif and the small amount of playing 
 about I have done with Java, Tcl/Tk, Gtk etc.
 
 Does anyone have a URL for any site or wiki article or ... that more 
 thoroughly addresses these unexposed features?

Just search Google for System.Windows.Forms and DllImport -- in
short, any instances of DllImport code in a SWF app.

Some examples that come up are:

- Using a transparent image to drag from one control to another:
http://dotnet247.com/247reference/msgs/26/133764.aspx

- Copy  Paste Images from MS Office into a Picture Box:
http://www.syncfusion.com/FAQ/WinForms/FAQ_c108c.asp

- A SWF 3D Gameloop:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rickhos/archive/2005/03/30/403952.aspx

 - Jon


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[Mono-list] Clarification - Features not exposed by System.Windows.Forms

2005-04-01 Thread Bill Medland
Please note.  I am not trying to be a troll so please don't be offended.

I am doing a little research on the various UI capabilities around, so that I 
will be able to make realistic suggestions etc. to higher management in my 
Microsoft-centred employer/company.

On the www.mono-project.com/Gui_Tookits page (and on Miguel's orginal page) I 
note the quotes that SWF is not complete enough for many tasks and there is 
mention of features which are not exposed by Windows.Forms.

This agrees with what I have read in the past about the Win32 API and SWF, and 
my own gut feel based on the small amount of Win32 UI stuff I have done, 
compared to the stuff I used to do with Motif and the small amount of playing 
about I have done with Java, Tcl/Tk, Gtk etc.

Does anyone have a URL for any site or wiki article or ... that more 
thoroughly addresses these unexposed features?

Alternatively can anyone provide some keywords?

(BTW, why don't those points get listed under the Cons?)

TIA
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Re: [Mono-list] Clarification - Features not exposed by System.Windows.Forms

2005-04-01 Thread Jordi Mas
El dv 01 de 04 del 2005 a les 09:32 -0800, en/na Bill Medland va
escriure:

 This agrees with what I have read in the past about the Win32 API and SWF, 
 and 
 my own gut feel based on the small amount of Win32 UI stuff I have done, 
 compared to the stuff I used to do with Motif and the small amount of playing 
 about I have done with Java, Tcl/Tk, Gtk etc.
 
 Does anyone have a URL for any site or wiki article or ... that more 
 thoroughly addresses these unexposed features?

We keep a site with the progress of Mono's managed System.Windows.Forms
name space implementation:

http://svn.myrealbox.com/blog/index.php

This is still a work in progress effort.

Here there is a description of what's done and it's status:

http://svn.myrealbox.com/mwf/owners.html

and here is the class level status report:

http://svn.myrealbox.com/mwf/class-status-System.Windows.Forms.html

I hope this helps.

Jordi


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